Folks need to check his portfolio before claiming he ain't about business. The rap business ain't the only shyt out there.
No troll... Why do you think Jay has had so much more business success than Nas?
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Folks need to check his portfolio before claiming he ain't about business. The rap business ain't the only shyt out there.
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nas came into the game only about music like most artists across almost all genres. Nas was anti-pop and to a large degree did everything he could to run away and avoid fame, this also included business moves
jay on the other hand came into the game on his "im a hustler not a rapper" vibe and he also happen to blow up (98/99) right in the years when hiphop was at an all time high based on commercial consumption and hit gold with the roca wear fashion. Having Dame by his side and then later stoute didn't hurt. Remember, all the stuff Stoute did for jayz, he wanted to do for nas but Nas ran away from it and wanted no part in it because of his introverted ways
but nas stepped his business game up
jay on the other hand came into the game on his "im a hustler not a rapper" vibe and he also happen to blow up (98/99) right in the years when hiphop was at an all time high based on commercial consumption and hit gold with the roca wear fashion. Having Dame by his side and then later stoute didn't hurt. Remember, all the stuff Stoute did for jayz, he wanted to do for nas but Nas ran away from it and wanted no part in it because of his introverted ways
but nas stepped his business game up
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@Premeditated don't you believe Earth is flat? No wonder that "smart dumb nikka" comment struck a nerve
bad enough you make bad posts in the sports section, we don't need that in the booth too
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Why do people even care about shyt like this? 
4 paragraphs about another man's business acumen
4 paragraphs about another man's business acumen
for the same reasons nas is a better artist. It's about where your strengths lie
Jay is also a better businessman that majority of the game and Nas is wealthy himself in comparison to people from their era who aren't around they both are an exception.
Jay is also a better businessman that majority of the game and Nas is wealthy himself in comparison to people from their era who aren't around they both are an exception.
Hov surrounded himself with businessmen like Dame and Biggs and learned from them,Nas surrounded himself with Garden and friends
He got steve stoute with him now though,looks like hes letting that man do what he needs to do...nas shouldve been eating off his shameless stans
He got steve stoute with him now though,looks like hes letting that man do what he needs to do...nas shouldve been eating off his shameless stans
Steve Stoute has spoken on this and Nas himself has spoken on this.
Nas and Jay run different races. It has nothing to do with "staying high 24/7" which might be the most ridiculous statement ever, or luck (which undermines the amount work put in by both artists) or anything other than personal preferences.
Nas came in as the second coming of Rakim. A student of Tragedy, MC Shan, Krs-One, and Kool G. Rap. Nas is and always will remain an artists artist. He cares mostly about the craft. He loves making money as well, and has made several successful business moves (Steve Stoute said Nas was an early success in Real Estate) but he has always prioritized the music as number 1
Hov came into the industry as a business man because every big label was sleeping on him. Him, Dame, and Biggs formed like Voltron and had the business down FLAT from day 1. Jay cares about the music as well, but from his own mouth he "Dumbed down his lyrics to double his dollars" so we know he prioritized wealth over art at ONE POINT ( obviously not overall) Jay probably spent as much time perfecting his business acumen as Nas did perfecting his lyricism.
Nas did the smartest thing possible for someone of his ilk. Focused on making classic music so that his reputation as an artist is pretty much bullet proof, then he got with someone young and hungry like Anthony Selah, who grew up inspired by Nas and will do anything to protect his legacy. Anthony goes HARD for Nas and that allows Nas to make great investments and start his own investment firm.
So as a businessman Jay is more successful because he came in the game making that a part of his plan. Jungle once said that Nas didn't even know if he'd make it past Illmatic, that he just wanted to make enough money to put some away for a rainy day. Nas was blessed with having MC Serch (who got him the best deal an artist at Columbia could get at the time) and Steve Stoute early in his career to look out until business was something he wanted to focus on. Jay was blessed with having fellow hustlers like Dame and Biggs in his corner who never took their foot off the pedal
Nas and Jay run different races. It has nothing to do with "staying high 24/7" which might be the most ridiculous statement ever, or luck (which undermines the amount work put in by both artists) or anything other than personal preferences.
Nas came in as the second coming of Rakim. A student of Tragedy, MC Shan, Krs-One, and Kool G. Rap. Nas is and always will remain an artists artist. He cares mostly about the craft. He loves making money as well, and has made several successful business moves (Steve Stoute said Nas was an early success in Real Estate) but he has always prioritized the music as number 1
Hov came into the industry as a business man because every big label was sleeping on him. Him, Dame, and Biggs formed like Voltron and had the business down FLAT from day 1. Jay cares about the music as well, but from his own mouth he "Dumbed down his lyrics to double his dollars" so we know he prioritized wealth over art at ONE POINT ( obviously not overall) Jay probably spent as much time perfecting his business acumen as Nas did perfecting his lyricism.
Nas did the smartest thing possible for someone of his ilk. Focused on making classic music so that his reputation as an artist is pretty much bullet proof, then he got with someone young and hungry like Anthony Selah, who grew up inspired by Nas and will do anything to protect his legacy. Anthony goes HARD for Nas and that allows Nas to make great investments and start his own investment firm.
So as a businessman Jay is more successful because he came in the game making that a part of his plan. Jungle once said that Nas didn't even know if he'd make it past Illmatic, that he just wanted to make enough money to put some away for a rainy day. Nas was blessed with having MC Serch (who got him the best deal an artist at Columbia could get at the time) and Steve Stoute early in his career to look out until business was something he wanted to focus on. Jay was blessed with having fellow hustlers like Dame and Biggs in his corner who never took their foot off the pedal
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Jay connected the right dots and was not afraid to put effort in his ventures, remember ill will records, jones experience records, etc ...... also Jay is a more interesting entity than the gawd nasir.
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Nas kept it hip hop for so long in his career
it'll be funny if with all the business ventures Nas has gotten into in Silicon Valley if he sells some of his shares and is worth $700M or something out of nowhere.... that would destroy the souls of Jay Z stans as Jay being more commercially successful is the only thing their holding on to
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Simple, in the beginning of their careers Nas focused on his music more than Jay Z. Nas was known to have an apartment in Long Island full of notebooks of rhymes. He lived it. Hence his quote "I only need One Mic" and his other song named "Book of Rhymes"
Jay on the other hand focused on both business and rap from day one, starting up his own label with Dame and Biggs, and continuing his business success with Def Jam/Roc Nation and other ventures
Now in the present day you see Nas more focused as more of a business man, and he's very successful at it. I think he'll be $100 mill in net worth eventually with all his investments
Not really a complicated answer tbh
Steve Stoute also speaks about this is about Nas in his early career
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...nas did everything possible to shy away from being more out there which is connected to business
Because talent at music, does not mean you'll be successful at everything else. Jay has good partners, and a sense of business regarding investments and long term goals, a thing that's not common at all between rappers or entertainers in general
As an introvert i would say Jay-Z is DEFINITELY also an introvert. Or at least very shy. So i dont think its that.
They're both talented as hell but they're different as artists & their goals. Nas has started to make smart business decisions but im sure
he battled a long time with the whole "am i selling out?" while Jay-Z probably was like Nas in his younger days, meaning being about your art & expressing yourself through music, but flipped after a while.