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They’ll probably force you to do it anyway so
No thread on the outing of our alien brehs?
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K.O.N.Y
Superstar
ya that part of the encounter i kind of undermined a bit in remembering the whole ordeal
But there's no way you can be lost for 4 hours. Being lost for 4 hours just driving, is going to land you in a whole nother state entirely, on the east coast
I didnt think about that till recently
just makes the whole thing even more
These aliens have huge heads. Species with large heads have large birth canals. When females of the species have large birth canals, the males have to match.
Just want to warn you going in.
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Pick-Me's become Beam-Me-Ups
You're flipping the if/then statements, that's a logical fallacy.
Kaku is saying that IF something is extraterrestrial, THEN it will have different isotope ratios.
He's not saying, if something had different isotope ratios, it must be extraterrestrial.
You can fabricate materials with unusual isotope ratios right here on Earth. Kaku didn't deny that.
I think there will be a ton of direct evidence of a crash retrieval program, and zero meaningful evidence of alien involvement outside of completely ambiguous shyt like "well they have interesting isotope mix" and personal testimonials. There will not be a single photograph or physical evidence that proves aliens, and the only documents that state aliens are definitely involved will be internal communications from the same people, not any sort of official descriptions or documentations of the actual program findings.
I just found out Chris Mellon said the same thing as me:
""For every one of those people [who told me we have some crashed alien material] there are also another, probably four or five or ten people, that are very very senior, who told me it's not true." - Chris Mellon
These people who come out are the fringe.
I think you're dancing on this subject. His statement wasn't that that's the ONLY reason why he and others believes this craft to be exotic is because of the isotope ratios.. just the same as Kaku stating it as well, that wouldn't be the ONLY way to find out if something is
You're using the Mick West argument, when frankly his argument was silly to, and it was just about "Why would you go to that as the reason why it's exotic... why not alien bodies?" (which he did anyways, but he was asked about the specific craft).. My answer would be one of the worlds most famous physicists went straight to that as his first answer, why would it be a problem for this guy who majored in physics to as well.
We just talked about this. Why in the world would we as regular citizens would be privy to Secret/Top Secret information about this complaint... I suppose you can just guess, but again we'll never know until this entire complaint becomes declassified, which we all know won't happen
They most def are, and the multiple articles that talk about this don't shy away from that, and it frankly makes sense. They've come out the sources they talk to are guessing anywhere from 100-700 people are aware of this crash retrieval program and a smaller number within that are aware of what this guys is accusing.
It would have to be that way, and only makes sense
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VoxSphere74
Banned
Yeah the rabbit hole on this goes too deep for most people. Because as Dr. Garry Nolan said recently aliens have been on the earth for a long time.
Stanford prof Garry Nolan says aliens are ‘100%’ living among us
A Stanford University professor and prominent ufologist says he “100 percent” believes extraterrestrials have not only visited Earth.
nypost.com
And you have the other guy David Grusch talking about crashed saucer recover programs and reverse engineering that technology which leads to the recognition that this is a momentous issue that will affect the trajectory of world history.
As for most people, they definitely wouldn't be able to accept that world history, major religions, and possibly the human race has been affected by non terrestrial beings for thousands of years.
And as others have mentioned maybe this is part of a conditioning process to get people accustomed to the reality of it so they don't freak out when full disclosure happens.
K.O.N.Y
Superstar
None of these things "crashed"
This whole we retrieved it and are attempting to reverse engineer it, shyt is fake. The conspiracy still gives a sense and semblance of government control
My opinion, is that there's absolutely zero human involvement in all this
There is no interest in meeting the united nations,world leaders, co-operating with first world nations etc . Thats more terrifying than defying religion
The "government" is just as helpless as a bum on the street. And they are trying to get ahold of all this, with that whistleblower-"we are hoarding the secrets" bullshyt
You're talking like Kaku was speaking as an objective physicist lol. He was at a UFO conference where people were paying $1600 just to get a good seat and the chance to shake his hand. He's just throwing shyt out there, not trying to be a wet blanket. That was the same conference where he claimed the burden of proof had shifted and it was now up to the government to prove that these AREN'T aliens. Does that sound remotely scientific?
I'm not even talking about regular citizens, I'm talking what HE has seen, given to Congress, etc. He hasn't seen jack shyt in terms of real evidence.
You're misquoting, one guy said "700-1000" and another said "1500 scientists in the secret black email group alone."
And you're assuming he's taking to the top guys in the know. But from his own statements, you can see he's getting a lot of his shyt from random private contractors and unimportant people who would be at the very bottom of the "need to know" hierarchy. Not one thing he's said indicates he's speaking to people with the highest clearance. Instead, it looks easy more likely he's talking to folk who know half-stories and things they've heard, who have only been allowed to interact with a small party of the program, and are making assumptions about the rest.
Yeah the rabbit hole on this goes too deep for most people. Because as Dr. Garry Nolan said recently aliens have been on the earth for a long time.
Stanford prof Garry Nolan says aliens are ‘100%’ living among us
A Stanford University professor and prominent ufologist says he “100 percent” believes extraterrestrials have not only visited Earth.
And you have the other guy David Grusch talking about crashed saucer recover programs and reverse engineering that technology which leads to the recognition that this is a momentous issue that will affect the trajectory of world history.
As for most people, they definitely wouldn't be able to accept that world history, major religions, and possibly the human race has been affected by non terrestrial beings for thousands of years.
And as others have mentioned maybe this is part of a conditioning process to get people accustomed to the reality of it so they don't freak out when full disclosure happens.
So there been thousands of years of global operational security. Every country in the world. UAP's were crashing every year in the 1800s while Andrew Jackson and Abraham Lincoln sent their ox wagons over to pick them up and ensure no one talked.
My 2 cents is that any extraterrestrial entities that can master interstellar travel and the energy and technology required to do so are too advanced for us. For one, they could look at us the way we go on safari to view wild animals or how we observe an ant colony. They would also be very advanced socially and wouldn't be into primitive practices such as war and enslaving others. I also doubt that such species would even bother to travel in-person around the universe, why not send advanced AI probes instead?
Lastly, we have nothing to offer any advanced extraterrestrials and I don't see what they would be interested in here. Our planet is a tiny, inconsequential marble sphere which probably wouldn't stand out from among the trillions of others that exist in the universe.
Lastly, we have nothing to offer any advanced extraterrestrials and I don't see what they would be interested in here. Our planet is a tiny, inconsequential marble sphere which probably wouldn't stand out from among the trillions of others that exist in the universe.
That tend to happens it’s why using compartmentalization works so well. You can actually put out the truth and disrupt it so that folks don’t know what is or isn’t. Dirtying the waters.
We'll just have to agree to disagree about certain things
I'm skeptical of this the subject matter but I think I'm just more willing to give it some time to be valid than you are. Maybe that's silly on my part, and maybe not.
Either way I've never been a UFO guy, but can admit this specific stuff fascinates me. We'll see if anything comes from it within in the next few weeks/months