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He's actually made a lot of smart behind-the-scenes moves during his tenure, negotiating small loses in order to gain moderate-to-big wins (the best wins possible with an obstructionist Congress, anyway). Most were early on, and a casual observer probably wouldn't notice, but I'm a poli. sci. major, plus I'm just genuinely and deeply interested in politics. Also, I'm not sure that some people judging his performance aren't a bit disillusioned with how politics work in general. I can recommend a couple of books that detail some of Obama's successes if you're interested. He's made a lot of mistakes too, and he's not "god" like some of his supporters seem to believe (or at least they use to), but he's also the best POTUS most of us have had in our lifetimes. According to one's perspective, that might not be saying much, though.
This is true. But I feel the small losses have been too much.
 

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Russia just sonned this nikka, don't get it twisted. This was a blunder, although it will be a minor now. This issue will be over before Halloween
 

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WASHINGTON, DC
29 minutes ago
Today has been another busy day in terms of diplomatic traffic, with reactions, discussions and pressers. Let's do a recap of where each of the relevant actors have said they stand:
Russia will send the United States details of a proposal to secure Syria's chemical weapons stockpile later Tuesday, US Secretary of State John Kerry said.
Iran and China have said they support the Russian plan.
Syria has accepted the Russian proposal to place its chemical weapons under international control for dismantling. The Syrian foreign minister has recently appeared on TV where he said "Syria is ready to completely renounce its chemical weapons."
The United States: Obama will address the American people in a direct televised broadcast later today and by that time the White House will have had enough time to assess the viability of the Russian proposal. John Kerry testified before Congress earlier, where he continued to make the administration's case that a sustained threat of military action is necessary. But Russian President Putin has recently said their proposal is only possible if the US rejects force.
paranthesis about the American people: A broad majority of Americans, exhausted by nearly a dozen years of war and fearful of tripping into another one, are opposed to a military strike on Syria, even though most say they think Syrian forces used chemical weapons against civilians, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.
France said they were getting ready to introduce a draft resolution at the UN Security Council calling on Damascus to give up its chemical weapons, which Russia said they would oppose. But the UNSC consultations have just been postponed.
about an hour ago
Russian state news agency RIA reports that Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Muallem said the following during his interview on Al Mayadeen channel:
With regards to the Russian initiative, Syria will completely renounce chemical weapons. Damascus agrees to declare the chemical weapons on its territory and completely cease their production.
Here's the link to the article [in Russian].
2 hours ago
Russian President Vladimir Putin has said Syrian chemical weapons handover plan will only work if United States rejects the use of force, Reuters reports.
"It all makes sense and can work if the US side and all those who support it renounce the use of force," he said according to Russian television.
this comes after news out of Washington DC that Obama would continue to press Congress to approve military intervention in Syria. The US has also said they will consider the Russian initiative but that the pressure of an intervention is essential to bring the Syrian regime to the negotiating table.

http://blogs.aljazeera.com/liveblog/topic/syria-153
 

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People think this has been solved and case closed.....not by a long shot.
with 911 round the corner these dirtbags cant let it go to waste. as usual a muslim will be set up to do it. and christians always fall for this sh1t...


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^^ :laugh: you're not dealing with someone informed here. gadafi didnt have chemical weapons. but its good to know where the general's public mind is.
 

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those are bullshyt articles.

israel should be put under pressure dismantle what it has too.
dismantling their sh1t just ended up being a setup.
 

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damn i didnt see that one. sometimes you just don't see these moves...
 
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