No Surprise Here: Jim Cornette Is "Ashamed" Of Everyone Involved In Stadium Stampede

[John Reena]

I agree with Jim on this. AEW sucks. That match was beyond stupid. An before tha stans run down “MITB” was stupid too. AEW is basically a self indulgent crackhead version of TNA.

 

[Lurk Angle]

I agree with Jim on this. AEW sucks. That match was beyond stupid. An before tha stans run down “MITB” was stupid too. AEW is basically a self indulgent crackhead version of TNA.

Yea but tna had an very good show in its early spike tv days
It wasn't until Russo came back that it became some bullshyt

 

[John Reena]

Yea but tna had an very good show in its early spike tv days
It wasn't until Russo came back that it became some bullshyt

AEW need to get it together. They look like a joke.

 

[stro]

This

Like I said before jim has good points
And what you just mention is the same with dudes I worked with and chilled wit in the past

They would always clown wrestling

Calling it fake and shyt

I mean aew has some good stuff
But the silly shyt is not gonna bring people back or new viewers

Serious, straight forward stuff, old school style stuff, wild spotfest stuff isn't brining people back or drawing in new viewers, either. So there's not much harm in expanding the boundaries at this point.

 

[Beautiful Bobby Eatin]

This the same Jim Cornette that repeatedly slapped Santino because he laughed at this

And Jim got mad he wasnt taking it seriously?

 

[Ace Money]

On how if this is what wrestling is, it needs to die: “If this is what wrestling is now, it needs to die. Leave it alone and let it go. If you can’t bring it back, and you just gonna fukking piss on the fukking rotting corpse, let it go. Find something else to do with your fukking lives like I have, because I’m too embarrassed to be involved with these people and this industry, because of shyt like this.

This is what did it? Of all the wrestling fukkery that has transpired over the last quarter of a century, cinematic matches were arguably the tipping point?

 

[Piff Huxtable]

to be fair Jim Cornette getting his face rammed into a cake led to Bill Watts getting bloodied up by the Midnight Express and sold out arenas

 

[Prince Akeem]

I agree with Jim on this. AEW sucks. That match was beyond stupid. An before tha stans run down “MITB” was stupid too. AEW is basically a self indulgent crackhead version of TNA.

Y'all just say shyt for the sake of saying it.

 

[stro]

to be fair Jim Cornette getting his face rammed into a cake led to Bill Watts getting bloodied up by the Midnight Express and sold out arenas

How much of Cornette's career of comedy led to nothing but people laughing for a segment? I almost feel like Cornette hates all of this stuff so much (besides because it is how he gets attention at this stage in his career) is because he wishes he could have been a serious wrestler type but was the least intimidating person to ever be in the business.

 

[Reality Check]

Same guy that wrestled someone dressed as a turtle

 

[NYChase718]

Yea but tna had an very good show in its early spike tv days
It wasn't until Russo came back that it became some bullshyt

HOEGAn and his mark friend Bischoff killed both wcw and TNA

 

[TrueEpic08]

Serious, straight forward stuff, old school style stuff, wild spotfest stuff isn't brining people back or drawing in new viewers, either. So there's not much harm in expanding the boundaries at this point.

It's a really interesting conundrum. Personally, though I liked the Stadium Stampede match and loved the Firefly Fun House "match," they're not really what I go to wrestling for and I'd rather them be standalone pieces than integral parts of a given wrestling card (think DDT, where you'll have an episode of their show solely dedicated to shyt like Apartment Wrestling). So I understand where guys like @TheGreatShowtime are coming from when they say they don't like these matches, and wrestling comedy has traditionally not been any kind of draw.

On the other hand, it's not as if wrestling has created any kind of new fanbase since 2001 anyway, so it's not as if many of the old tricks are working either. So what's the issue and how can it be solved?

What I THINK Cornette is trying to get at, in the most generous reading, is that stuff like this fails to be believable for the general audience. And not just believable in the sense that it could really happen, but believable in that you can suspend your disbelief and invest in it, or at least not have the product look completely silly when you show it to non-wrestling fans.

The thing about that is that regular ass professional wrestling (certainly WWE, if nothing else) looks really silly to the average viewer, what with it's ridiculous and nonsensical angles, horribly out of touch comedy, making everyone look stupid to pop a senile septuagenarian, etc. AEW, which I like quite a lot, manages to be interesting (itself a barrier much of WWE and others's output have failed to cross over the last 20 years), but not always believable, which could hinder crossover potential. Now, I don't think these cinematic matches are going to solve this issue at all (people like watching people actually physically fight to a finish too much for that to happen), but given the circumstances, I don't blame them for doing something different.

Honestly, we might have to be content with the fact that believable angles like that just might not happen for a while (think back to the angles in your life that got people outside the wrestling bubble talking, and you'll find that more of those were serendipitous happenings than you'd initially think). But, really, is the Stadium Stampede really hurting anything more than any other moderately goofy wrestling angle? I mean fukk, at least this was a semi-believable fight, unlike that Boneyard Match garbage.

 

[JerseyBoy23]

When live crowds are back, having cinematic matches on television or a PPV is not going to go over well at all with people in the crowds. They'd have to move it to either the network, Youtube, etc.

When they did the Braun vs Matt Hardy match, they showed the crowd dark matches while the audience at home saw the Deletion match.

I think that's a good middle ground.

 

[DoubleJ13]

But yet when they come to town those fans will be the first one talking about coppin tickets for someone. Or will have a full Review of mania the next time you see them....lol the reasons the biz died is that the E have not allowed themselves to create a real star. There's too many shows and there too long asking anyone to watch 6-10hrs of wrestling is a lot to ask of a casual fan.

WWE couldn't create a star if they wanted to now regardless. As soon as they decide to go with somebody & really start pushing them, people turn on that person. Vince been trying forever & a day to turn Roman into that guy. Even when it's somebody that people like they start turning on them not long after the push with very rare exceptions.

 

[CM_Burns]

Cornette probably;y doesn't like this stuff, but him cutting promos like this has kept him afloat also so it's at least partly a work.