He made some valid points. The crash pad and Hardy stuff was ridiculous.He's right
Kenny Olivér
No Surprise Here: Jim Cornette Is "Ashamed" Of Everyone Involved In Stadium Stampede
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Kenny Olivér
I think MLW and NWA are closer to what Cornette likes considering he worked for both recently
AKM-95
All Star
I get what he saying but at the same time it's not 1985 Jim Crockett anymore Jim really needs to come to grips with the fact that pandaors box has been opened and no one getting shot over "playfighting"you have to keep up with the times or be left behind.
Some things that the elite do i find corny but for the most part they have been one of the best wrestling companies going because they found away to connect wrasslin story telling with modern wrestling and its fans.
Some things that the elite do i find corny but for the most part they have been one of the best wrestling companies going because they found away to connect wrasslin story telling with modern wrestling and its fans.
TrueEpic08
Dum Shiny
Cornette saying that JR should be ashamed of calling the Stadium Stampede is HILARIOUS given that it wouldn't even register in the top 5 worst/weirdest/dumbest things JR ever called.
Like, I just watched JR call a series of segments where the Undertaker and Paul Bearer kidnap Steve Austin, attempt to bury him alive, then attempt to embalm him alive, and try to get the audience to believe in it.
JR called the Higher Power clusterfukk, Katie Vick, the Invasion, Pillman's got a gun, the Brawl for All, and probably a million other dumb things I can't think of at the moment. Yet Cornette singles out a fun, moderately goofy brawl where everything was booked to make sense?
Dude is seriously close to Rush Limbaugh/Sean Hannity status at this point, which is just so sad. All that knowledge going to waste because he can't get over his hate of modern wrestling and The Elite in particular. It's pathetic.
Like, I just watched JR call a series of segments where the Undertaker and Paul Bearer kidnap Steve Austin, attempt to bury him alive, then attempt to embalm him alive, and try to get the audience to believe in it.
JR called the Higher Power clusterfukk, Katie Vick, the Invasion, Pillman's got a gun, the Brawl for All, and probably a million other dumb things I can't think of at the moment. Yet Cornette singles out a fun, moderately goofy brawl where everything was booked to make sense?
Dude is seriously close to Rush Limbaugh/Sean Hannity status at this point, which is just so sad. All that knowledge going to waste because he can't get over his hate of modern wrestling and The Elite in particular. It's pathetic.
I think a lot of us that were born in the 80's have gotten to the age where we're old enough to kind of see where Cornette's coming from at times, but definitely young enough to understand that times change and wrestling can be also fun.
It's no different than the oldheads having problem with the way sports or mainstream music (especially hip-hop) has changed. You can see where the criticisms come from and also understand that entertainment has become a spectrum.
I think that the middle ground in this particular discussion is that while the Stadium Stampede match was greatly entertaining, in spite of its overall ridiculousness, it DID end up getting top-billing for this year's "Double or Nothing", which is the same PPV that had participants from this very match main-eventing with World Title implications (Omega/Jericho) and was co-headlined by two other participants (The Young Bucks vs. The Lucha Bros).
Often, when Cornette & Brian critique AEW, they refer back to the claim that it would be the "sports-centric alternative in the pro wrestling world", so that seems to be the standard they've been holding them to. Last seems to be a little more lenient when the fun stuff is good, but I get the vibe that they're probably also considering notions from a guy like Jon Moxley (for example), in how he felt he was being given goofy creative and wanted to be somewhere where his character was taken more seriously.
You can also see that Cornette's more into angles or ring-work based on believability. He gets on Archer about having a lazy shoot-off, guys not selling, or anyone having shytty strikes so, of course, he'd blow a gasket at match that was billed over Cody/Archer (given the build) and Moxley/Lee (given that seriousness) featuring Matt Hardy transforming underwater and giving Ortiz convulsions with a bell, Matt Jackson suplexing Sammy Guevara 100 yards before superkicking a ref, Nick Jackson kicking out at 2 after being beaten with a baseball bat, having the pin reviewed, and getting up to run down a flight of stadium stairs to splash Jericho through a table.
All that being said, I bet he does continue watching. He loves wrestling too much, really likes MJF & Cody, and will definitely want to see what they do with FTR...and I'll probably double-down in betting that all is forgiven if they ever actually do "Blood & Guts".
It's no different than the oldheads having problem with the way sports or mainstream music (especially hip-hop) has changed. You can see where the criticisms come from and also understand that entertainment has become a spectrum.
I think that the middle ground in this particular discussion is that while the Stadium Stampede match was greatly entertaining, in spite of its overall ridiculousness, it DID end up getting top-billing for this year's "Double or Nothing", which is the same PPV that had participants from this very match main-eventing with World Title implications (Omega/Jericho) and was co-headlined by two other participants (The Young Bucks vs. The Lucha Bros).
Often, when Cornette & Brian critique AEW, they refer back to the claim that it would be the "sports-centric alternative in the pro wrestling world", so that seems to be the standard they've been holding them to. Last seems to be a little more lenient when the fun stuff is good, but I get the vibe that they're probably also considering notions from a guy like Jon Moxley (for example), in how he felt he was being given goofy creative and wanted to be somewhere where his character was taken more seriously.
You can also see that Cornette's more into angles or ring-work based on believability. He gets on Archer about having a lazy shoot-off, guys not selling, or anyone having shytty strikes so, of course, he'd blow a gasket at match that was billed over Cody/Archer (given the build) and Moxley/Lee (given that seriousness) featuring Matt Hardy transforming underwater and giving Ortiz convulsions with a bell, Matt Jackson suplexing Sammy Guevara 100 yards before superkicking a ref, Nick Jackson kicking out at 2 after being beaten with a baseball bat, having the pin reviewed, and getting up to run down a flight of stadium stairs to splash Jericho through a table.
All that being said, I bet he does continue watching. He loves wrestling too much, really likes MJF & Cody, and will definitely want to see what they do with FTR...and I'll probably double-down in betting that all is forgiven if they ever actually do "Blood & Guts".
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Right?
You couldn't even pull the "it was a different time", or "it just didn't age well" card for a lot of that shyt. It was just plain bad, even when it happened.
And let's not act like ALL the storylines from the 70s and 80s were top notch.
I really don't know why people keep paying attention to his opinions on modern wrestling. He doesn't like it. We get it. Ironically, for someone so set in believing that previous of generations of wrestlers got it better, he comes off as a massive mark for the business and himself, which I'm pretty sure was some sort of faux pas back in the day.
904Lurker
R.I.P Young Dolph
His detractors can't ignore that the fans are changing the channel and not coming back. My circle of friends are all former WWE/WCW diehards and we can reminisce about the Monday night wars for hours now no one but me watches that shyt, and i get laughed at. It has become an inside joke to a small group of people and that thinking has low key killed the business.I think a lot of us that were born in the 80's have gotten to the age where we're old enough to kind of see where Cornette's coming from at times, but definitely young enough to understand that times change and wrestling can be also fun.
It's no different than the oldheads having problem with the way sports or mainstream music (especially hip-hop) has changed. You can see where the criticisms come from and also understand that entertainment has become a spectrum.
I think that the middle ground in this particular discussion is that while the Stadium Stampede match was greatly entertaining, in spite of its overall ridiculousness, it DID end up getting top-billing for this year's "Double or Nothing", which is the same PPV that had participants from this very match main-eventing with World Title implications (Omega/Jericho) and was co-headlined by two other participants (The Young Bucks vs. The Lucha Bros).
Often, when Cornette & Brian critique AEW, they refer back to the claim that it would be the "sports-centric alternative in the pro wrestling world", so that seems to be the standard they've been holding them to. Last seems to be a little more lenient when the fun stuff is good, but I get the vibe that they're probably also considering notions from a guy like Jon Moxley (for example), in how he felt he was being given goofy creative and wanted to be somewhere where his character was taken more seriously.
You can also see that Cornette's more into angles or ring-work based on believability. He gets on Archer about having a lazy shoot-off, guys not selling, or anyone having shytty strikes so, of course, he'd blow a gasket at match that was billed over Cody/Archer (given the build) and Moxley/Lee (given that seriousness) featuring Matt Hardy transforming underwater and giving Ortiz convulsions with a bell, Matt Jackson suplexing Sammy Guevara 100 yards before superkicking a ref, Nick Jackson kicking out at 2 after being beaten with a baseball bat, having the pin reviewed, and getting up to run down a flight up stadium stairs to splash Jericho through a table.
All that being said, I bet he does continue watching. He loves wrestling too much, really likes MJF & Cody, and will definitely want to see what they do with FTR...and I'll probably double-down in betting that all is forgiven if they ever actually do "Blood & Guts".
We need PEAK Pissed Cornette. Have Orange Cassidy win a Briefcase/Ladder Match for a World Title shot. It doesn't matter if OC doesn't win the title, just having the biggest fukking rant known to mankind would be... perfect. 
El Poyo Loco
Akrassikauda = Black Scorpion
Wait so a few weeks ago when he was sitting on MITB the AEW wing of the IWC was 
When he shyts on AEW the wing is
Cornette that old man is trying to be relevant it's not the 80's no more
The hypocrisy in wrestling fans is the absolute worst thing about the current product
When he shyts on AEW the wing is
Cornette that old man is trying to be relevant it's not the 80's no more The hypocrisy in wrestling fans is the absolute worst thing about the current product
Playaz Eyez
Veteran
The best matches since ‘rona started have been these cinema style matches, though Riddle/Thatcher was dope. Cornette needs to pump the brakes, this is just how it’s gonna be til it blows over. It’s not like entire shows have been cinema style.
El Poyo Loco
Akrassikauda = Black Scorpion
was he hating this bad on the stupid MITB match?
he's a jungle boy stan too
Yes he was especially about how all the females just standing around looking up waiting for Asuka to jump, everyone pretending the building has 20 some odd floors, wtf did Dana Brook do to her face, Rey and Allister would be back after being murdered and his hatred for Otis
Reality Check
Keepin' it 100
Wait so a few weeks ago when he was sitting on MITB the AEW wing of the IWC was
When he shyts on AEW the wing is
The hypocrisy in wrestling fans is the absolute worst thing about the current product
Other than Jim Cornette, nobody takes his opinion on wrestling in 2020 seriously. Goes for every company.
Honestly, I don't like these cinematic matches at all. I understand a lot of people like them & they're going to keep pumping them out, so I'm pretty much at a point where I pick & choose what I watch with wrestling now. Today's wrestling product is passing me by.
I've stopped watching WWE altogether and only really watch AEW Dynamite now
I've stopped watching WWE altogether and only really watch AEW Dynamite now
El Poyo Loco
Akrassikauda = Black Scorpion
Other than Jim Cornette, nobody takes his opinion on wrestling in 2020 seriously. Goes for every company.
If nobody takes anything he says serious why the constant bytching over everything he says