No Limit Records Stories

[Wacky D]

They were the most talented artists on the label. Hooks, lyrics, concepts, production...they mastered it all. P preferred putting over Silkk tho, for nepotism reasons. Look at how many features Silkk had on ICM, Ghetto D and Da Last Don. All 4 Fiend/Mac albums on the tank were phenomenal, the deep/introspective cuts were on another level

KLC claimed he had unreleased Tank Doggs material in his vault, so it's time to make him release that shyt

sure, nepotism played a part.

but lets keep it a buck. those guys didn't have the star-power that silkk had.
nor do they have an album as good as the shocker.

Nah brah it was a really good overlooked album. Ruff Ryders, Cash Money, Missy n many others came out during that time and nobody cared bout TRU. C killed his spots on there. Some really good production too (NL Army, Tru Homies, Hail Mary, Don't Judge Me, Tank Goes On...). BBTP and future Soulja Productions (XL, Suga Bear) together for the first and last time

lol. you really gonna plug missy Elliot in there?

anyway, cats were bumpin that TRU album up here, and we're prolly no limit's weakest market. they didn't become relics until 2001.

Idk if they offered him one, im just saying that P and Mack knew each other from the movie and from the West Coast Bad Boy days. He would later sign with Cash money

aiird, I see what you saying.

the cash money deal was in a different era tho.

 

[OHSNAP!]

sure, nepotism played a part.

but lets keep it a buck. those guys didn't have the star-power that silkk had.
nor do they have an album as good as the shocker.





lol. you really gonna plug missy Elliot in there?

anyway, cats were bumpin that TRU album up here, and we're prolly no limit's weakest market. they didn't become relics until 2001.





aiird, I see what you saying.

the cash money deal was in a different era tho.

Love The Shocker album, but all 4 Fiend/Mac NL albums are better. Thinking most NL fans agree with me. Mac was the dirty south Nas, he just needed the machine/industry behind him to get to the very top. Fiend was crazy talented

Yeah Missy, Busta, X, Juve, Hot Boys, Ruff Ryders did surpass NL in popularity in mid-99, no doubt. Plus they had all black media and MTV/Viacom on lock thx to their labels and heavy marketing

Compared to the two years before, around this time (mid-99) NL popularity started to wane seriously. They had no hype. MP's album Only God Can Judge Me barely went platinum. Da Crime Family as well iirc (double CD)

 

[No Hook]

sure, nepotism played a part.

but lets keep it a buck. those guys didn't have the star-power that silkk had.
nor do they have an album as good as the shocker.



lol. you really gonna plug missy Elliot in there?

anyway, cats were bumpin that TRU album up here, and we're prolly no limit's weakest market. they didn't become relics until 2001.





aiird, I see what you saying.

the cash money deal was in a different era tho.

The only reason Silkk had star power was becasue P put the nikka on everything and shoved him down the peoples thorats. Silkk had all the premium BBTP beats as well that others didn't have

Missy Elliots album was a big deal back then. She still was a star and was considered one of the top female rappers

 

[Wacky D]

Love The Shocker album, but all 4 Fiend/Mac NL albums are better. Thinking most NL fans agree with me. Mac was the dirty south Nas, he just needed the machine/industry behind him to get to the very top. Fiend was crazy talented

Yeah Missy, Busta, X, Juve, Hot Boys, Ruff Ryders did surpass NL in popularity in mid-99, no doubt. Plus they had all black media and MTV/Viacom on lock thx to their labels and heavy marketing

Compared to the two years before, around this time (mid-99) NL popularity started to wane seriously. They had no hype. MP's album Only God Can Judge Me barely went platinum. Da Crime Family as well iirc (double CD)

how are any of those fiend & mac albums better than the shocker?? please don't say because theyre better emcees.

missy & busta rhymes?? really?? those were kid picks.

and why are you awarding artists for having the media behind them?? meanwhile, penalizing independence.

of course cash money & ruff ryders were hotter in '99. that doesn't mean no limit was completely dead in the water. sure they were on the downside, just like almost everybody else that peaked in that '96-98 time period, and they were in better standing than most of their peers from that era. of course they weren't poppin the way they were two years prior. that's how the game went back then. cash money & ruff ryders were the new squads that had the ball, and two years later they began to fizzle out as well. its not like nowadays where they force-feed the same short-list of tired rappers for 10 years str8. youre applying new-aged logic.

I don't get caught up in hype. that's industry chit. I just remember ninjas rockin with that TRU still. and I had the bootleg myself, so sales meant nothing. im not saying they were poppin on the level of CMR & RR. and I don't penalize them for it either, seeing how they weren't their peers like that.

OGCJM was an awful album tho. no arguments there.

 

[Wacky D]

The only reason Silkk had star power was becasue P put the nikka on everything and shoved him down the peoples thorats. Silkk had all the premium BBTP beats as well that others didn't have

Missy Elliots album was a big deal back then. She still was a star and was considered one of the top female rappers

so yall really gonna sit here & pretend that fiend & mac had more star-power, were more marketable and had more reach than silkk?? I think yall are letting your personal feelings get in the way. and its not like silkk was just some marketable cat who fumbled the ball **cough LIL WAYNE** or anybody like that. silkk still delivered.

its like with dipset. I thought writer & ruger were better than jimmy & Juelz, but the latter had more star potential & didn't fumble.

yea, silkk had better beats, but most of those beats didn't fit his style, so that's null & void.

missy merged her r&b with her rap career but she was never considered a top female rapper by any serious rap fans who were cognizant at any point ever. she never had a post-pubescent rap fanbase.

 

[ProfessionallyTrill]

Silkk had the ladies.

I remember girls liking him and tbh I doubt NL had many "sex symbols" to promote all like that.

 

[Wacky D]

Silkk had the ladies.

I remember girls liking him and tbh I doubt NL had many "sex symbols" to promote all like that.

THIS

silkk had everybody really. he had a gangsta ass penny hardaway thing going for him. from the streets to the broads to the kids. his reach was out there.

I mean, i know chicks down south dug c-murder, kane & abel, and I don't know how they viewed Mac's looks, but he was light-skinned & could make those thug love tracks with ease. so he was gonna be a star by '00-01.

still, none of em had the reach of silkk the shocker.

 

[Alvin]

Silkk had the ladies.

I remember girls liking him and tbh I doubt NL had many "sex symbols" to promote all like that.

big ed was built (no homo) and he sold fairly well with the assassin

 

[Alvin]

@M.DOT

@OHSNAP!

@phonthought3000




anywhere I can download the entire no limit discography?

 

[No Hook]

@M.DOT

@OHSNAP!

@phonthought3000




anywhere I can download the entire no limit discography?

Highly doubt it but you never know on here. Your best bet is to just go to youtube and convert the albums into mp3s. Youtube has just about every NL album that's been released

 

[phonthought3000]

@M.DOT

@OHSNAP!

@phonthought3000




anywhere I can download the entire no limit discography?

C-Murder/No Limit Albums (Mediafire)

Not the whole discography but a good portion on the 96-99 years

504 Boyz (Mediafire)


Master P (Mediafire)

 

[Alvin]

C-Murder/No Limit Albums (Mediafire)

Not the whole discography but a good portion on the 96-99 years

504 Boyz (Mediafire)


Master P (Mediafire)

can you link me the remastered ghetto d 10th anniversary?

 

[OHSNAP!]

how are any of those fiend & mac albums better than the shocker?? please don't say because theyre better emcees.

missy & busta rhymes?? really?? those were kid picks.

and why are you awarding artists for having the media behind them?? meanwhile, penalizing independence.

of course cash money & ruff ryders were hotter in '99. that doesn't mean no limit was completely dead in the water. sure they were on the downside, just like almost everybody else that peaked in that '96-98 time period, and they were in better standing than most of their peers from that era. of course they weren't poppin the way they were two years prior. that's how the game went back then. cash money & ruff ryders were the new squads that had the ball, and two years later they began to fizzle out as well. its not like nowadays where they force-feed the same short-list of tired rappers for 10 years str8. youre applying new-aged logic.

I don't get caught up in hype. that's industry chit. I just remember ninjas rockin with that TRU still. and I had the bootleg myself, so sales meant nothing. im not saying they were poppin on the level of CMR & RR. and I don't penalize them for it either, seeing how they weren't their peers like that.

OGCJM was an awful album tho. no arguments there.

I just stated facts. I was still a massive NL stan at that point. But momentum shifted to other acts, who had "the machine" behind them, heavily...RR and CMR songs were played in every fukkin' car on the skreets, X was the biggest name in rap, Juve went 4x plat etc etc. And yeah, Missy and Busta were huge pop stars, but casual rap fans geared towards those acts instead of hardcore No Limit

P could have pushed Fiend/Mac just as much as Silkk. Mac had all areas on lock: streets, clubs, ladies, introspective...

 

[JustCKing]

I just stated facts. I was still a massive NL stan at that point. But momentum shifted to other acts, who had "the machine" behind them, heavily...RR and CMR songs were played in every fukkin' car on the skreets, X was the biggest name in rap, Juve went 4x plat etc etc. And yeah, Missy and Busta were huge pop stars, but casual rap fans geared towards those acts instead of hardcore No Limit

This to a degree

The tide definitely shifted. With No Limit, a lot of people switched from NL to CMR. The others really didn't factor. RR was more so East Coast and did more in tapping into Bad Boy's base and took more of that audience the same way a lot of NL fans became CMR fans.

With Missy and Busta, they were already huge when No Limit was at its biggest. I don't think it was necessarily a Pop audience that they had. Missy and Busta had their own thing within Hip Hop. The made fun music with crazy production accompanied by crazy videos. They were looked at more so as creatives and innovators.

In terms of casuals, No Limit benefited from them because a lot of them weren't really hardcore heads, but more so trend hoppers who defected to CMR once they became popular and it was cool to clown No Limit.

 

[OHSNAP!]

This to a degree

The tide definitely shifted. With No Limit, a lot of people switched from NL to CMR. The others really didn't factor. RR was more so East Coast and did more in tapping into Bad Boy's base and took more of that audience the same way a lot of NL fans became CMR fans.

With Missy and Busta, they were already huge when No Limit was at its biggest. I don't think it was necessarily a Pop audience that they had. Missy and Busta had their own thing within Hip Hop. The made fun music with crazy production accompanied by crazy videos. They were looked at more so as creatives and innovators.

In terms of casuals, No Limit benefited from them because a lot of them weren't really hardcore heads, but more so trend hoppers who defected to CMR once they became popular and it was cool to clown No Limit.

True dat

Plus a lot of rappers/industry cats started clownin' on/beefing with P. From Pimp C to Yukmouth to Pastor Troy to C-Bo to Death Row to Cash Money's subliminals...sucker shyt (not that P was always innocent...)