No-Limit Master P (5 part Docuseries) Wednesday 9pm EST on BET

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Does any other music genre's fanbase care so much about sales? Dudes don't sit back and argue over how many albums Billy Ray Cyrus sold do they?
These type of arguments are exclusively reserved for rap forums

no one is arguing about sales on twitter when discussing music
 

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They used footage I had for this documentary. I had a long talk with one of the producers when they asked me for it in January.

This docuseries was mainly done mainly by eOne Entertainment and they controlled the editing, not Master P. Remember he doesn't own the catalogue, but that's another story. That's why this series actually as close as non-biased as we might get by showing some of the not-so-good aspects.

Thus, they couldn't really thoroughly fact check everything said and had to take some people's words at face value. Especially if it isn't easily verifiable by a Google search. Much of the late 90's stuff isn't. So yes, there's gonna be some exaggerations throughout the series. Artists and label execs especially.

I was shocked when they told me that Viacom doesn't have much of the 90's BET footage digitalized. Lots of it is just sitting in the storage that they show at the beginning of the Chronicles episodes.

Yes, No Limit sold lots of records. They shipped gold & platinum on the first day for many albums. Problem was many didn't actually Soundscan aka sell that much. That's exactly why P would up losing the catalogue to Priority and later Beats by the Pound.

Remember: shipping certifications (RIAA) were basically only for vanity in the analog days. You get paid based on actual sales, which Soundscan documents.

So yes, No Limit could convince enough stores to preorder 500k copies of Steady Mobb'n. They get a Gold plaque the first day but are liable to only sale 150k after 6 months.

From the early days, P's greatest strength was always his ablity to leverage large advances based on high pre-orders. He knew how to talk to convince stores to carry his music.

Again, I'm not trying to downplay P's success at all. But, we just can't romanticize the story. There's also much to learn from NL's downfall.

PLEASE DO NOT GO BY WIKIPEDIA NUMBERS THAT DON'T SITE ANY SOURCES!
 
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They used footage I had for this documentary. I had a long talk with one of the producers when they asked me for it in January.

This docuseries was mainly done mainly by eOne Entertainment and they controlled the editing, not Master P. Remember he doesn't own the catalogue, but that's another story. That's why this series actually as close as non-biased as we might get by showing some of the not-so-good aspects.

Thus, they couldn't really thoroughly fact check everything said and had to take some people's words at face value. Especially if it isn't easily verifiable by a Google search. Much of the late 90's stuff isn't. So yes, there's gonna be some exaggerations throughout the series. Artists and label execs especially.

I was shocked when they told me that Viacom doesn't have much of the 90's BET footage digitalized. Lots of it is just sitting in the storage that they show at the beginning of the Chronicles episodes.

Yes, No Limit sold lots of records. They shipped gold & platinum on the first day for many albums. Problem was many didn't actually Soundscan aka sell that much. That's exactly why P would up losing the catalogue to Priority and later Beats by the Pound.

Remember: shippig certifications (RIAA) were basically only for vanity in the analog days. You get paid based on actual sales, which Soundscan documents.

So yes, No Limit could convince enough stores to preorder 500k copies of Steady Mobb'n. They get a Gold plaque the first day but are liable to only sale 150k after 6 months.

Again, I'm not trying to downplay P's success at all. But, we just can't romanticize the story. There's also much to learn from NL's downfall.

PLEASE DO NOT GO BY WIKIPEDIA NUMBERS THAT DON'T SITE ANY SOURCES!
you got any footage of Kane & Abel or the NL goons? Big Pokey, Big Mann, Big Hero, KK, Waynegro, Vercy Carter
 

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you got any footage of Kane & Abel or the NL goons? Big Pokey, Big Mann, Big Hero, KK, Waynegro, Vercy Carter


Here's Kane & Able that I posted earlier


This is some of the goons


I actually really have more Cash Money TV footage than No Limit (they were on TV more).

I got all kinds of classic hip-hop footage on my channel. Lotta documentaries hit me up for some stuff I recorded as a kid haha

Peep my channel
https://www.youtube.com/c/DJCottonHere
 

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I’m shocked they had V90 on the doc. That name and infamy make me imagine he the type of nikka you only call for “special” jobs. Sounding like a secret weapon the president would push the button on for DEFCON 5 purposes.
Wasn't he in I'm Bout It when they stole Friendly dope out his house?
 

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I think so but I can’t remember cuz I seen that shyt so long ago. That nikka is a gooned out shadow in my mind’s eye....:russ:
Yeah the way P mentioned that nikka in songs I always figured he was a hitta. Same way Birdman mentions Cito and Tonto on wax. But then again P said "My manager TC you know he bout it bout it" and Tobin comes off as a super square :skip:
 

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They used footage I had for this documentary. I had a long talk with one of the producers when they asked me for it in January.

This docuseries was mainly done mainly by eOne Entertainment and they controlled the editing, not Master P. Remember he doesn't own the catalogue, but that's another story. That's why this series actually as close as non-biased as we might get by showing some of the not-so-good aspects.

Thus, they couldn't really thoroughly fact check everything said and had to take some people's words at face value. Especially if it isn't easily verifiable by a Google search. Much of the late 90's stuff isn't. So yes, there's gonna be some exaggerations throughout the series. Artists and label execs especially.

I was shocked when they told me that Viacom doesn't have much of the 90's BET footage digitalized. Lots of it is just sitting in the storage that they show at the beginning of the Chronicles episodes.

Yes, No Limit sold lots of records. They shipped gold & platinum on the first day for many albums. Problem was many didn't actually Soundscan aka sell that much. That's exactly why P would up losing the catalogue to Priority and later Beats by the Pound.

Remember: shipping certifications (RIAA) were basically only for vanity in the analog days. You get paid based on actual sales, which Soundscan documents.

So yes, No Limit could convince enough stores to preorder 500k copies of Steady Mobb'n. They get a Gold plaque the first day but are liable to only sale 150k after 6 months.

From the early days, P's greatest strength was always his ablity to leverage large advances based on high pre-orders. He knew how to talk to convince stores to carry his music.

Again, I'm not trying to downplay P's success at all. But, we just can't romanticize the story. There's also much to learn from NL's downfall.

PLEASE DO NOT GO BY WIKIPEDIA NUMBERS THAT DON'T SITE ANY SOURCES!
can't Viacom just hire a company to go through all that, source it and digitize it for them? would take a minute, but there's gotta be places that offer those services.
 

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Yeah the way P mentioned that nikka in songs I always figured he was a hitta. Same way Birdman mentions Cito and Tonto on wax. But then again P said "My manager TC you know he bout it bout it" and Tobin comes off as a super square :skip:

We all thought Harvin Marrison was a square so I won’t take a chance....:skip:
 
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