No disrespect to AD but in todays nfl im not giving a mvp to a RB

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This has nothing to do with the argument....of course they are the most important players on their team. Just the same as Peterson is the most important player on his team.
The Vikings are 8-6 and control their own playoff destiny.... without Peterson they are the worst team in NFL. Without Manning or Brady the Pats and Broncos are still playoff teams.

:bert: That one Cassel season where the Pats lost to every contender and had a top 10 defense really has people confused huh? I don't think people get it, the current Pats have had until the past 3 or so weeks, one of the 3 worst defenses in the NFL going on 3 or 4 years. Brady's Pats were literally averaging the most PPG in NFL HISTORY to win games, Ryan Mallet is about to lead the greatest offense in history and direct a team with O-Line injuries all over the place...unlikely.
 

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:bert: That one Cassel season where the Pats lost to every contender and had a top 10 defense really has people confused huh? I don't think people get it, the current Pats have had until the past 3 or so weeks, one of the 3 worst defenses in the NFL going on 3 or 4 years. Brady's Pats were literally averaging the most PPG in NFL HISTORY to win games, Ryan Mallet is about to lead the greatest offense in history and direct a team with O-Line injuries all over the place...unlikely.

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Between Redskins and Patriots, you would swear there was some secret competition of who cold tell the most ducktales about their team fielding the worst defense of all time. Redskins claimed this when they had a middle of the field defense :snoop: Now the Patriots who are 2nd in arguably the most important stat besides total points (turnovers) have one of the worst defenses for the last 3 or 4 years?

:duck: :duck: :duck:
 

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:bert: That one Cassel season where the Pats lost to every contender and had a top 10 defense really has people confused huh? I don't think people get it, the current Pats have had until the past 3 or so weeks, one of the 3 worst defenses in the NFL going on 3 or 4 years. Brady's Pats were literally averaging the most PPG in NFL HISTORY to win games, Ryan Mallet is about to lead the greatest offense in history and direct a team with O-Line injuries all over the place...unlikely.

Did you see the Jets play yesterday? That team was JUST eliminated from playoff contention.

Are you prepared to say that the Pats wouldn't still be better than them? with :beli: as the coach?

Now Mallet wouldn't be able to duplicate that success, but they'd still be around a 8-9 win team, which could win the East. (not for long though if the Dolphins can get Tanny some talent).
 

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Did you see the Jets play yesterday? That team was JUST eliminated from playoff contention.

Are you prepared to say that the Pats wouldn't still be better than them? with :beli: as the coach?

Now Mallet wouldn't be able to duplicate that success, but they'd still be around a 8-9 win team, which could the East. (not for long though if the Dolphins can get Tanny some talent).

The first time we beat the Jets was in OT, and barely. If our team is 100% healthy than maybe, but we would pretty much lose every single close game with Mallet at QB instead of Brady. We'd lose every close game we had and some of those blow outs. Every single game where Brady was forced to throw 45 times would be an L.

We would not have been able to do what we did to the Broncos early, we would still lose to the Cardinals, Ravens, Seahawks, 49ers, we'd split with the Bills, and probably split with the Jets (at least that first one)...so I've already given you 7 Ls. That's not even getting into the fact that in a typical year we struggle with the Dolphins and we probably don't build up that early type of lead on the Texans. But the biggest thing is that we wouldn't be blowing teams out so that they have to pass to help our defense.

We end up in a 3 way tie for the division or something.
 

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Not debatable actually. :umad:

What is debatable is, if given the circumstances coming into the season, if Peyton right now is having the best QB performance of all time :leon:

What he's doing has NEVER been done and most likely will never be done again. AD is just trying to match dikkersons pace

so you're gonna suck peyton's dikk for coming off a injury but ignore that peterson is doing the same?
 

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:bert: That one Cassel season where the Pats lost to every contender and had a top 10 defense really has people confused huh? I don't think people get it, the current Pats have had until the past 3 or so weeks, one of the 3 worst defenses in the NFL going on 3 or 4 years. Brady's Pats were literally averaging the most PPG in NFL HISTORY to win games, Ryan Mallet is about to lead the greatest offense in history and direct a team with O-Line injuries all over the place...unlikely.

stop with the ducktales. you are hurting your credibility with each post. Nobody is buying this shyt about the Pats being a top 3 worst defense. They give up a lot of yards, are league average in PPG and elite in forcing turnovers.

Take all that into consideration and you've got an average defense. Not great, not even good, but not terrible. Definitely not the worst.

We already saw Cassel step in and lead them to the playoffs. We see they have a D that forces turnovers and a dominant running game. We see they have good weapons around Brady. Fact is there's a handful of QB's that could replace Brady on the Pats and I don't think they'd really skip a beat. Can you say that for AD?
 

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Sports Illustrated is trying to do their part to get him that MVP.

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Gotta hate that white media huh?
 

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Breh stop taking shots. Nobody saying Favre on Montana or Young's level (btw Young only won it once so whats your point?)


And you saying "Rodgers won it once ever" Like he been playing for 10 years and about to retire

Rodgers on pace to fukk every QB record up
nikka, you think I give a fukk that you have a special love for Rodgers?
He has as many SB wins as Trent Dilfer til proven otherwise. But he gets the type of credit that an alltime great passer gets. So does Phillip Rivers, Matthew Stafford, Sam Bradford, all them nikkaz in the same media created category of "White QB's who can do no wrong" Romo was in that category til ppl started asking "If he's so good, why they keep losing?" I hear ya about Rodgers, but I can assure you the Redskins haven't lost like that (like yall did by the giants) in a looooooong time. Aaron has only did the damn thing one year. You expect him to get more, but you don't think he'll do it this year do you :jawalrus:
Having potential career ending procedure/ changing teams / going to a new city/system/coaching staff............and still being the best quarterback in the league on the hottest team in the L?

Peyton Manning will win MVP, accept it, get over it, the sooner the happier you will be with your lives.
This injury he had, he's healed from it. Doctors cleared him to play
He couldn't really do much, just had to let it heal. And "if" it healed right, then he'd be good to go which he is
AD had to rehad his leg back to the shape its in, then he's currently about to break the all time rushing record while playing on a terrible team
Peyton is doing what he always does.. not as good as he once did it I might add
On a team that hosted a home playoff game last year and won it
Now he's playing in a division that they would be leading in if they was 6-8 right now
You seem too impressed. Tell me, Name a single game this year, against a great team that Denver has won

JUST A SINGLE GAME VS A GREAT TEAM :popcorn:
please tell me where I'm downplaying AD's accomplishments?

I said I don't think it's clear cut...but I never said who I believe should win...and I do think Petersen should win...and yes I am white...who gives a fukk?...what's that have to do with anything?....oh that's right your a troll...so troll on son...troll on
No, now your backpedaling and crying like a faggity ass bytch niggy wiggy :yeshrug:
It is clear cut. As for why I ask if you was white? Cuz white ppl have this uncanny ability to be biased towards blacks while acting like they not doing that. But will immediately call foul if a black person favors another black person :rudy:
Any reason you can make up for Peyton is bullshyt, and is just that... white bias
I could give a fukk about Peyton or Adrian. Black ppl have to accept the bullshyt white ppl pull, and still try to look at it in a way so white ppl in general can learn what equality is all about. By leading by example in the face of ignorance. RG3, why is the white media asking him the questions that lead to Rob Parkers firing? You don't think of shyt like that do you???
Why I ask if you was white? Cuz it mostly likely factors into who you would favor. Its racist or white bias to be "unsure" if AD is a better choice than P.M.
Take your choice. Line yourself along one of those lines. Cuz its one or the other bruh...
:duck:

Between Redskins and Patriots, you would swear there was some secret competition of who cold tell the most ducktales about their team fielding the worst defense of all time. Redskins claimed this when they had a middle of the field defense :snoop: Now the Patriots who are 2nd in arguably the most important stat besides total points (turnovers) have one of the worst defenses for the last 3 or 4 years?
Is that right?
After 5 games worst in team history, 3rd worst in LEAGUE history

After 7 weeks they was well beyond the record pace set by last years Greenbay Packers who finished giving up 4,796. Redskins at this point was on pace for 5,255yrds passing yrds given up. Close to 500yrds worse than the worst to EVER do it

We are currently 4th worst in the league in yards given up on defense, and #1 in penalties. But if you wanna ignore all these facts, that is the-coli way :hula:
Gotta hate that white media huh?
So because one magazine says the obvious means The White Media hasn't tried and seemingly successfully brainwashed fools into thinking Peyton is deserving :stopitslime:
 

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didnt manning put up 48 TD's in a season before and yall in awe of 31 td's this dude came back from a crazy injury and he's better than ever and yall cant see the QB's your voting for have done this over a million times :laff: aint shyt inspiring about what manning or brady is doing cmh c00n ass nikkas
 

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People come back from blowing their knees out everyday B, literally every Day.

Nobody has ever went thru the procedure like or similar to Peytons, got dropped from the team, had to go to a new system/players/EVERYTHING. And picked up right where they left off. THIS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE.

What AD has done is amazing but in recent times comebacks like this from those type of injuries are becoming the norm rather than the outlier. Not to mention AD just got plugged right back into his familiar surroundings and kept beasting

Peyton was literally thrown out of his element and left for dead in a incomparable situation....and he has excelled like no other player in NFL history has ever considering all he's faced. Whether you like it or not this will matter to the voters and Peyton WILL win MVP.
 

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Yeah..because "I" think..they're 100% wrong...right cracka?

My spokesman ladies and gentleman.

Cracka?
:what:
The fukk?


You stay tryin to shyt on the " white" media when it's convenient for you but when it's not just ignore it

You can't have it both ways fakkit
 
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