NINTENDO’S FUTURE CALLED INTO QUESTION AS WII U SALES PLUMMET

[CM_Burns]

Hit the nail right on the head right here, this is exactly why I liked the first over the second prime.

I didn't feel like it was restrictive at all, non of them were actually

Is stayed true to the classic but it wasn't a fukking side scroller that resembled super metroid with 3d graphics like most Nintendo games not named Mario or Zelda.

Maybe you mis read my post breh, I said Mario galaxy was a highlight, what's your point in bringing it up? My arguement is not with that game

Cosign, if anything prime 3 was the most linear and restricted. I didn't like the dark world of 2 but liked the difficulty level/bosses a lot.

I love what Nintendo's done for games, but the Wii U launch lineup was insulting and they don't deserve to be rewarded for it. I'll probably cop if Smash Bros with a good online mode drops, or a good Zelda or Metroid game.

 

[up in here]

True but they still have to create and grow.

At one time, Apple's main IP was the iPod when it surpassed their home computers per installable base. It did not mean that they stop re-inventing and creating new products.

You don't beat a dead horse over and over to see if it can perform the same trick in spite of the obvious....that it won't.

but to say they haven't created and grown and that they are just rehashing the same games isn't really all that accurate. the resurgence of side scrolling platformers on home consoles is a very recent phenomenon. Nintendo especially hasn't done 2D platforming in a long time. Aside from Yoshi's Story and Kirby 64, the last time Nintendo had really put any focus on side scrolling platformers was SNES.

plus, unlike Sony and MS, Nintendo actually develop their own IPs, not Bungie or Insomniac Games or Media Molecule. So if we are talking about creativity, its not even comparable, where Nintendo actually creates new IPs, the other two purchase new IPs from other game designers. Now im not saying I have any issue with what Sony and MS do, because it gives devs a chance to shine, but to say that the other two are creative and Nintendo is not is just ludicrous.

 

[VladTheImpaler]

but to say they haven't created and grown and that they are just rehashing the same games isn't really all that accurate. the resurgence of side scrolling platformers on home consoles is a very recent phenomenon. Nintendo especially hasn't done 2D platforming in a long time. Aside from Yoshi's Story and Kirby 64, the last time Nintendo had really put any focus on side scrolling platformers was SNES.

plus, unlike Sony and MS, Nintendo actually develop their own IPs, not Bungie or Insomniac Games or Media Molecule. So if we are talking about creativity, its not even comparable, where Nintendo actually creates new IPs, the other two purchase new IPs from other game designers. Now im not saying I have any issue with what Sony and MS do, because it gives devs a chance to shine, but to say that the other two are creative and Nintendo is not is just ludicrous.

This is not about Sony or MS. That crutch to defend Nintendo's failure finds itself on wobbly legs. Certainly you over state this "resurgence of side scrolling platformers" as you and I and most in this thread know that side scrollers are hardly the games that push current consoles and no proof is needed on that other than looking at the obvious.

That being said, it's certainly insane to suggest that Nintendo from a gaming creative capacity has done Anything recently to merit even a mere mention with current consoles. The failure of this current console and nintendo's offerings or lack there of it is proof enough of my view whilst undermining yours. Thus, on this matter, we shall agree to disagree.

 

[Demonic Jenkins]

It's because the heavyweight hitters haven't dropped yet. Once Smash Bros, a new Mario and some other piff drop WiiU sales is going to skyrocket because I know I'm getting one for that sole reason.

Right now though owning a Wii-U is most likely done by people with spare money or those who desire new electronics all the time.

You in denial bro...

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[StraxStrax]

Pikmin is only 2 generations old, and Yoshi hasn't had a console game since N64.

Yeah ok but c'mon Nintendo gotta sell the WiiU and everybody who bought the damn thing doesn't really care what Nintendo puts out at this point, they gonna buy it anyway. Yoshi and Pikmin are not that big nor are they fresh.


Phase 1: Mario/Zelda - 1-2 New IPs - decent 3.party
Phase 2: Metroid/SSB/Kirby/Pikmin/Donkey Kong - 2-3 New IPs - decent 3.party
Phase 3: Metroid/SSB/Kirby/Pikmin/Donkey Kong - 2-3 New IPs - decent 3.party
Phase 4: Mario/Zelda - 1-2 New IPs - decent 3.party

Repeat every generation.
shyt's not hard.

 

[up in here]

This is not about Sony or MS. That crutch to defend Nintendo's failure finds itself on wobbly legs. Certainly you over state this "resurgence of side scrolling platformers" as you and I and most in this thread know that side scrollers are hardly the games that push current consoles and no proof is needed on that other than looking at the obvious.

That being said, it's certainly insane to suggest that Nintendo from a gaming creative capacity has done Anything recently to merit even a mere mention with current consoles. The failure of this current console and nintendo's offerings or lack there of it is proof enough of my view whilst undermining yours. Thus, on this matter, we shall agree to disagree.

i think you misunderstand my comment, i wasn't saying side-scrolling platformers were system sellers, i was saying that the side scrollers were really the only time where nintendo has actually rehashed old titles (aside from zelda twighlight princess). for the most part i feel the IPs have been used creatively and not just rehashed games. to suggest they stop using their IPs is ludicrous.

when we talk of IPs, you have to understand that MS and Sony do not develop them, 3rd parties develop them and Sony and MS publish them. So if you want Nintendo to follow the same mold in acquiring new IPs, they first need 3rd party support, which as we are seeing will only happen if Nintendo can sell their system, which will only happen if Nintendo push their current IPs. do you see what I'm saying. It is the IPs that are keeping Nintendo going.

I agree that the Wii-U line-up at this point is lacking, I dont own one currently, but there are a couple of games I am waiting on that once released im definitely copping. but as far as this thread, its not just nintendo, video game consoles are selling less across the board. now people saying, xbox is still selling, well technically wii is still selling too, that doesn't mean that its all good. the same doom and gloom shyt cant be said about the whole industry.

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even with iphone/android games being so popular, i personally dont believe all this "console gaming is on the way out" shyt. I feel that wii-u will do just fine once they build their line-up and provided 720 and ps4 are reasonably priced i dont think they will struggle as much as the wii-u is struggling,. but i think its far too early to count nintendo out, especially since they do have such a strong stable. now if they release Smash Bros, a new 3d mario, new zelda, new metroid, and are still doing this poorly, then i think we can call it, but until then any doom talk is premature.

 

[Fatboi1]

You in denial bro...

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Denial about what?? I couldn't care less about what's the current status of the Wii-U. I'm just saying I suspect more people will buy a WiiU once it's good games come out. Plenty of people have said that including me. I don't take Nintendo's consoles seriously enough to only have them as my main console.

 

[Demonic Jenkins]

Denial about what?? I couldn't care less about what's the current status of the Wii-U. I'm just saying I suspect more people will buy a WiiU once it's good games come out. Plenty of people have said that including me. I don't take Nintendo's consoles seriously enough to only have them as my main console.

I'm just saying...you said sales will "skyrocket" when those drop....that ain't happening breh lol

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[up in here]

I beat the last Zelda, awful game breh



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that game is at least 35-45 hours long. seriously breh, if you thought it was awful, why did you continue to play it to the end?

 

[Wild self]

Nobody is happy that Nintendo is flopping, but them being successful with the WIIU would have been bad for real gamers

"Real gamers " that are graphics whores and buy the typical first person shooters or [insert random 'mature' franchise where originality faded years ago] are stagnating the industry. We need people like Nintendo to keep innovating regardless of it's a failure or a success. Or else we be using the same shyt, same controllers and same stagnant audience for generation after generation. Stagnation and lack of diversity will bring a crash similar to 1983.

 

[Renkz]

They're gonna have to hold down the ship until the new SSMB, Mario Kart, and Pokemon X and Y can save them.

 

[5n0man]

that game is at least 35-45 hours long. seriously breh, if you thought it was awful, why did you continue to play it to the end?

Because I'm a really really big Zelda fan, probably a bigger fan than you.
I've played and beat every Zelda game, including the hand held ones

I wanted to like it but couldn't make myself like it like I did with twilight princess
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[Dwolf]

 

[Liquid]

"Real gamers " that are graphics whores and buy the typical first person shooters or [insert random 'mature' franchise where originality faded years ago] are stagnating the industry. We need people like Nintendo to keep innovating regardless of it's a failure or a success. Or else we be using the same shyt, same controllers and same stagnant audience for generation after generation. Stagnation and lack of diversity will bring a crash similar to 1983.

Chill breh

I still have a spot for Nintendo in my life, but the success of the OG Wii was kinda bad for gaming the 2nd half of this gen. We had a strong strong run from 2005-2009 or so...then the gen pretty much went to shyt with Microsoft and Sony pumping so much money into motion. I am not a fan of gimmicks and this is what Nintendo is becoming now. The Wii and Wii U pretty much prove that right now.

 

[up in here]

Chill breh

I still have a spot for Nintendo in my life, but the success of the OG Wii was kinda bad for gaming the 2nd half of this gen. We had a strong strong run from 2005-2009 or so...then the gen pretty much went to shyt with Microsoft and Sony pumping so much money into motion. I am not a fan of gimmicks and this is what Nintendo is becoming now. The Wii and Wii U pretty much prove that right now.

motion controls themselves weren't a gimmick, there was just alot of gimmicky motion control based games. but when motion controls were applied to good games the shyt was exceptional. Resident Evil 4 on wii remains one of the best gaming experiences I've had in years.