That thread title.
whatever happened to Rik Smits?!!? jesus christ havent heard that name in ages...
That thread title.
This is the long and short of it. I'd even call him great, but all the GOAT offensive player, even smatterings of GOAT player period stuff is grating.I have always had the belief that he is a good big, but overrated because of the weak big era
lol, winning 1 on 1 games is irrelevant to how good a player you are.Players like Jokic thrive in team ball surrounded by the right pieces. He would get destroyed going against bigs like a healthy AD or Embiid in 1 on 1.
The Coli like clockwork.
Give me the guy that plays 82 games a year 1st team all defense and 1st or 2nd team all nba multiple years in a row over an injured 30 year old who needs dr gero to create him an android body.You're wrong. Prime Dwight isn't better than current Joker or a healthy Embid.
He retired over 20 years ago and just disappeared off into the night lol.whatever happened to Rik Smits?!!? jesus christ havent heard that name in ages...
Jokic is an all time great. There is no shame in saying that
That was the last year of Lebron's prime 2020. He could still provide elite offense and elite defense when he decides to focus come playoffs. 2023-24 version is good but just not as dominant. His impact ain't the same as pre 2021. So yea Jokic has handled Lebron when he was older but couldn't do sht vs rested healthy AD + prime Bron.He was always overrated. The Lakers proved in 2020 that he wasn't that guy.
I would've respected him if he put up 30ppg, 10reb, 3blk, etc. vs. LA in the Bubble or something nasty like that because then you'd could atleast argue that Jokic was the best guy on the floor, he just couldn't beat the entire team that LA had but, instead Howard, AD & McGree hoe'd him.
Give me the guy that plays 82 games a year 1st team all defense and 1st or 2nd team all nba multiple years in a row over an injured 30 year old who needs dr gero to create him an android body.
Joker got a ring so its hard to put Dwight over him but swap 09 dwight for 23 joker and orlando doesnt make the finals in 09 while Denver still wins the title last year
Yes, he’s an ATG mostly due to the machine & MVPs. But stop putting him in top-20.
Look at the fat Serb getting locked down by Naz Reid. Even 50-yr old LeBron (when he turns 50) won’t look this bad.
Look at your spreadsheet BPM great defender
I don’t think Dirk was this bad defensively.
In the 90s, when the NBA had real big men - Jokic would be another Divac. Kukoc was right about him.
He was much better defensively last year in the playoffs
I remember AD couldnt do nothin wit Jokic