Nikola Jokic just got exposed as Rik Smits with a horse fetish

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You're wrong. Prime Dwight isn't better than current Joker or a healthy Embid.
Give me the guy that plays 82 games a year 1st team all defense and 1st or 2nd team all nba multiple years in a row over an injured 30 year old who needs dr gero to create him an android body.

Joker got a ring so its hard to put Dwight over him but swap 09 dwight for 23 joker and orlando doesnt make the finals in 09 while Denver still wins the title last year
 

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Jokic is an all time great. There is no shame in saying that

Yes, he’s an ATG mostly due to the machine & MVPs. But stop putting him in top-20.

Look at the fat Serb getting locked down by Naz Reid. :russ: Even 50-yr old LeBron (when he turns 50) won’t look this bad.



Look at your spreadsheet BPM great defender:russ:



I don’t think Dirk was this bad defensively.

In the 90s, when the NBA had real big men - Jokic would be another Divac. Kukoc was right about him.
 

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He was always overrated. The Lakers proved in 2020 that he wasn't that guy.

I would've respected him if he put up 30ppg, 10reb, 3blk, etc. vs. LA in the Bubble or something nasty like that because then you'd could atleast argue that Jokic was the best guy on the floor, he just couldn't beat the entire team that LA had but, instead Howard, AD & McGree hoe'd him.
That was the last year of Lebron's prime 2020. He could still provide elite offense and elite defense when he decides to focus come playoffs. 2023-24 version is good but just not as dominant. His impact ain't the same as pre 2021. So yea Jokic has handled Lebron when he was older but couldn't do sht vs rested healthy AD + prime Bron.:manny:

We know Murray is the the 2nd most important piece (though you can argue Gordon) if Murray isn't scorching hot then Denver looks average. Minnesota is a great team, if KAT or Gobert misses a game Naz Reid can easily come in and fill up the production. Then with ANT playing like a bonafide superstar, Denver just can't seem to compete. Especially when Minnesota is a top 3 defensive team.
 

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Give me the guy that plays 82 games a year 1st team all defense and 1st or 2nd team all nba multiple years in a row over an injured 30 year old who needs dr gero to create him an android body.

Joker got a ring so its hard to put Dwight over him but swap 09 dwight for 23 joker and orlando doesnt make the finals in 09 while Denver still wins the title last year
:laff:
 

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Yes, he’s an ATG mostly due to the machine & MVPs. But stop putting him in top-20.

Look at the fat Serb getting locked down by Naz Reid. :russ: Even 50-yr old LeBron (when he turns 50) won’t look this bad.



Look at your spreadsheet BPM great defender:russ:



I don’t think Dirk was this bad defensively.

In the 90s, when the NBA had real big men - Jokic would be another Divac. Kukoc was right about him.


He was much better defensively last year in the playoffs
 
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