New Zealand Basketball pre game celebration appreciation

[Malta]

Ok breh, maybe I misinterpreted the solidarity comment, my bad.

I think I'm gonna leave this conversation as it is just because I don't think it matters what I say, you're gonna comeback with something else.
My last comment will be that 99% of Maori are happy in New Zealand, there always those that will complain no matter how good something is. And the haka is a symbol of national pride, not racial pride, not cultural pride, National pride. And in no way is it cultural theft.

If that's how you feel, I apologize breh.

Lets break bread

 

[Aoteroa]

If that's how you feel, I apologize breh.

Lets break bread

No need to apologise breh, this is what places like the coli are for, discussion. Like i said you got some GOAT knowledge on ball, this was just something i disagreed with. No animosity breh.

 

[LurkMoar]

This shyt was pretty damn intimidating to me

 

[Loose]

i wont argue with duke because thats his people, but it does seem like we (like most minorities) have many things in common. hopefully they havent brainwashed the people over there into being happy with what they have and all that jazz.

maybe our american counterparts are just more demonic than yours cause this how they do us over here

we just celebrating MLK yall!

I don't think we can compare situations we don't live over there. Maybe shyt is all peaches and cream for them

 

[concise]

Does not look intimidating on basketball bodies.

 

[Canon]

Nothing funnier than seeing white people culture vulture, you ain't Maori and you doing the haka

yeah i chuckled at that shyt

looked all kinds of wrong

 

[Max B]

Does not look intimidating on basketball bodies.

Pause

 

[pickles]

I know it's the Haka, white people doing it is just status.

Steal a peoples land, treat them like shyt socially and then appropriate their culture as your own brehs.

 

[yoyoyo1]

Only on the Coli would a so-called "well respected poster" challenge an ACTUAL NATIVE and ACTUAL EXPERT on a subject that person has been living all his life, like he doesn't know what he's talking about.


you people kill me, thanks for being so entertaining guys.

 

[dennis roadman]

this was an enlightening discussion i kinda wanna move to new zealand now tbh

the difficult part of the linear line of thinking of "land-robbery" comes when reading about the maori invasion of Chatham Islands

On 19 November 1835, the brig Lord Rodney, a hijacked European ship, arrived carrying 500 Māori armed with guns, clubs and axes, and loaded with 78 tonnes of seed potatoes, followed by another ship with 400 more Māori on 5 December 1835. While the second shipment of invaders were waiting, the invaders killed a 12-year-old girl and hung her flesh on posts. They proceeded to enslave some Moriori and kill and cannibalise others. "Parties of warriors armed with muskets, clubs and tomahawks, led by their chiefs, walked through Moriori tribal territories and settlements without warning, permission or greeting. If the districts were wanted by the invaders, they curtly informed the inhabitants that their land had been taken and the Moriori living there were now vassals."

A hui or council of Moriori elders was convened at the settlement called Te Awapatiki. Despite knowing of the Māori predilection for killing and eating the conquered, and despite the admonition by some of the elder chiefs that the principle of Nunuku was not appropriate now, two chiefs — Tapata and Torea — declared that "the law of Nunuku was not a strategy for survival, to be varied as conditions changed; it was a moral imperative." A Moriori survivor recalled : "[The Maori] commenced to kill us like sheep.... [We] were terrified, fled to the bush, concealed ourselves in holes underground, and in any place to escape our enemies. It was of no avail; we were discovered and killed - men, women and children indiscriminately." A Māori conqueror explained, "We took possession... in accordance with our customs and we caught all the people. Not one escaped....."

The invaders ritually killed some 10% of the population, a ritual that included staking out women and children on the beach and leaving them to die in great pain over several days. The Māori invaders forbade the speaking of the Moriori language. They forced Moriori to desecrate their sacred sites by urinating and defecating on them.

After the invasion, Moriori were forbidden to marry Moriori, or to have children with each other. All became slaves of the Ngati Tama and Ngati Mutunga invaders. Many Moriori women had children by their Māori masters. A small number of Moriori women eventually married either Māori or European men. Some were taken from the Chathams and never returned. In 1842 a small party of Māori and their Moriori slaves migrated to the subantarctic Auckland Islands, surviving for some 20 years on sealing and flax growing. Only 101 Moriori out of a population of about 2,000 were left alive by 1862. Although the last Moriori of unmixed ancestry, Tommy Solomon, died in 1933 there are several thousand mixed ancestry Moriori alive today.

@Aoteroa how is this incident viewed in modern-day NZ? appreciate any insight breh

 

[NelsonSwagdela]

Only on the Coli would a so-called "well respected poster" challenge an ACTUAL NATIVE and ACTUAL EXPERT on a subject that person has been living all his life, like he doesn't know what he's talking about.


you people kill me, thanks for being so entertaining guys.

I mean people get emotional and as an African American, I could see how something that seems similar to your own cultural unjust would leave you feeling some type of way but he did eventually consider that he might not be right and apologized. I mean if anything that's kind of unusual for the coli?

 

[duncanthetall]

nikkas can't just laugh at a video anymore.

 

[mozichrome]

this went from talking about the hilarious looks on harden, rose, faried face to needing to bring up culture stealing.

 

[DoubleClutch]

This thread just reminded me I need to check out this film. I can wait

Stop arguing and enjoy the trailer, brehs

 

[Mr. Manhattan]

lol @ Faried's face. Harden was like wtf is going on.

Same shyt he says while playing defense