New whistleblower comes out with UFO program information to Congress. Program name is called "Immaculate Constellation"

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Never once did I state that, if you’re gonna make an argument make it correctly.. I’m not gonna argue back and forth with you for the 5th time in a thread on this. You’ve made it clear you don’t believe anything else is going on yet post on these threads EVERY DAMN TIME endlessly.


Amazing after going back and forth all these times, you still don't have a single argument beyond, "But a pilot thought it was unworldly and pilots don't make mistakes!" Now you're reduced to begging me to leave the thread because you can't counter the argument. If you're actually interested in the topic, you should be fascinated by those breakdowns and want to know more, not just get angry because the object wasn't what you thought it was, to the point where you start talking trash about anyone who knows more on the subject than you do.


I keep posting careful breakdowns, with receipts. You keep posting, "But pilots!"



Post ONE video, just ONE, that definitively shows a craft doing something that regular-ass manmade crafts don't already do. Because after years and years of hype, we're still waiting for that.
 

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Aliens are like: Go mess with their pilots again and do the lights thing, remember why we came here.. to play pranks!


The fact that they think these alien ships coming from other solar systems need flight lights on their wingtips is one of the endlessly funny things about these conspiracy theories.


"It's a giant black triangle that can cloak itself.....but also has flight lights on the wingtips even while cloaked." :dead:
 

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You all and this UFO thing. :beli:

Let it go. You don't want them problems nor do you want them here on this earth dimension. I promise you you'll regret it. It already happened once and it led to the Great Deluge. You've been warned. :ufdup:
 

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Amazing after going back and forth all these times, you still don't have a single argument beyond, "But a pilot thought it was unworldly and pilots don't make mistakes!" Now you're reduced to begging me to leave the thread because you can't counter the argument. If you're actually interested in the topic, you should be fascinated by those breakdowns and want to know more, not just get angry because the object wasn't what you thought it was, to the point where you start talking trash about anyone who knows more on the subject than you do.


I keep posting careful breakdowns, with receipts. You keep posting, "But pilots!"



Post ONE video, just ONE, that definitively shows a craft doing something that regular-ass manmade crafts don't already do. Because after years and years of hype, we're still waiting for that.
Reading comprehension is an important adult skill.. I beg you to try incorporating it into your every day life. Never once have I stated my position on whether these are "aliens" during ANY of these threads. I simply think that something is going on according to these pilots and the government isn't doing enough to take the matter seriously like they should

This entire thread discussion is about a whistleblower who apparently gave information to Congress regarding a database and illegal SAP's not having government oversight. This isn't even a thread about a pilot seeing something. Once again reading comprehension is an important adult skill

My daughter can copy and paste things she sees online, I'm not gonna go back and forth with you on Metabunk when I can just go do the damn site and have discussions on there.

I'm gonna emphasize once again to you, that READING COMPREHENSION IS AN IMPORTANT ADULT SKILL. Idk what you do on a daily basis, but I promise you, you can advance your career by doing this. If you even have one
 

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The fact that they think these alien ships coming from other solar systems need flight lights on their wingtips is one of the endlessly funny things about these conspiracy theories.


"It's a giant black triangle that can cloak itself.....but also has flight lights on the wingtips even while cloaked." :dead:
There's all kinds of aviation effects we know of and probably many more that are unknown. The human body is not evolved for flying, our senses do weird things in the sky at those speeds.

 

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Idk what you do on a daily basis, but I promise you, you can advance your career by doing this. If you even have one



Every one of our discussions on this topic goes the same way:


1. You make vague assertions without evidence, largely based on Argument from Authority

2. I dispute those claims and post exact incidents with receipts that support my point of view

3. You refuse to respond to the specific events and switch to personal attacks instead




There's no evidence that anything unusual has occurred beyond humans misinterpreting things (like humans always have) and the government having secrecy around military programs (like the government always has). You pretend not to have a dog in this fight, yet whenever I point out that pilots make mistakes and misinterpret things they see, you get emotional to the point of turning into a total a$$hole.
 

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There's all kinds of aviation effects we know of and probably many more that are unknown. The human body is not evolved for flying, our senses do weird things in the sky at those speeds.




The study of illusions, both optical illusions and cognitive illusions, is an absolutely fascinating subject. As your link points out, there are a ton of optical illusions that take place in flight because our entire sensory system was developed to work in daylight on a basically flat plane while standing upright with solid objects of known size all around us, not at night in open three-dimensional air that you can travel through in any direction. Look at bats - they're made for that environment and they have a completely different sensory and cognitive experience than we do.

People go crazy whenever I point out that it's virtually impossible for a pilot to judge the distance to an object of unknown size in any open space unless the pilot has a specific reference point that he sees the object interact with. (The only exception is if the air is dusty/foggy enough that you can judge distance by how much the object is obscured, but that doesn't work on a clear day and only works if you have a good idea of EXACTLY how hazy the air is.)

But in these UFO discussions, the cognitive illusions are probably even more important than the optical illusions. Too many people refuse to do the hard work of actually trying to figure something out, so instead of engaging in the deep and technical discussions, they revert to their emotions. They "feel" something has to be going on, it doesn't "smell" right, there's just "too much smoke", they say that it's "obvious" something doesn't add up......it all ends up being euphemisms for "I can't point to any real evidence but I hear people talking about stuff and want to believe."

That of course was a super lazy way for me to discuss cognitive illusions (Thinking, Fast and Slow is an amazing book on the subject). But the sum of the issue is that most people take shortcuts whenever possible rather than concentrating on finding a solution, and even when they concentrate they tend to just try to prove their shortcut was right rather than being willing to go where the evidence leads.
 

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Every one of our discussions on this topic goes the same way:


1. You make vague assertions without evidence, largely based on Argument from Authority

2. I dispute those claims and post exact incidents with receipts that support my point of view

3. You refuse to respond to the specific events and switch to personal attacks instead




There's no evidence that anything unusual has occurred beyond humans misinterpreting things (like humans always have) and the government having secrecy around military programs (like the government always has). You pretend not to have a dog in this fight, yet whenever I point out that pilots make mistakes and misinterpret things they see, you get emotional to the point of turning into a total a$$hole.
I've already acknowledged that SOME pilots def fuk up, and SOME of these things can easily be due to misidenfitication... once again reading comprehension

I never make vague assertions on this subject, the majority of my posts are simply about a story being told by someone who is in a position to know. Are they correct? Maybe.. maybe not. I find them interesting and tend to not trust the government on everything regarding this subject because flatly they have lied about looking into UAP's/UFO's in the past

My personality is a$$hole at this point when it becomes clear what I'm dealing with. You don't gotta go back and forth with me on this subject if you feel like I'm cutting too deep. I get irratated by the lack of reading comprehension and copy/paste
 

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they've already told everyone aliens exist. seen the evidence at this point.....but guess what? No one (masses) cares.

coulda did that shyt a long time ago apparently.
 

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I've already acknowledged that SOME pilots def fuk up, and SOME of these things can easily be due to misidenfitication... once again reading comprehension

All pilots fall victim to visual illusions on every flight. The human visual system wasn't designed to work in open three-dimensional air. Most illusions, of course, are not memorable, and even the memorable ones are usually dismissed by the pilot as no more than a trick on the eyes.

But only "some" pilots assume that one or more of their visual illusions were actually real. Why are you so convinced that there's "something going on" meaningfully different beyond the spy games that military powers have always played and some pilots getting too goofy in their response?



There's been zero evidence, anywhere in the world, for a craft that is beyond those we already know exist. There's been zero evidence, anywhere in the world, for a craft that is operated by a non-human intelligence. There's been zero evidence, anywhere in the world, for anything that breaks the laws of physics. All we have are the same blurry videos and misinterpreted optical illusions that we've always had, with at best a recent uptick due to the prevalance of drones and now starlink launches.


It's bizarre, btw, that waves of UFO sightings follow advances in human technology, isn't it? We're getting these waves of little UFOs messing with military operations at the exact time manmade drones become prevalent. Crop circles got intricate and technical at the exact moment that computer drafting and GPS technology allowed fields to be mapped out from the ground. Flying saucers became a thing at the exact moment that jet technology became widespread. Abduction of humans by little gray men didn't start happening until AFTER Hollywood started showing TV shows where people were abducted by gray men.



Decades and decades of this shyt, and we're still waiting for the FIRST clear picture of a craft that's obviously not manmade or the FIRST clear video of a craft doing things that humans aren't capable of.
 

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The fact that we exist proves there's either;​

  1. No sufficiently-advanced civilization existing outside Earth.
  2. Never has a sufficiently-advanced civilization visited Earth.
The only 'rational' reason for such a civilization to come here would be to wipe us out due to physics and resource-necessity.

Yes, this is speculation but not extraordinarily.​
 
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