New whistleblower comes out with UFO program information to Congress. Program name is called "Immaculate Constellation"

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The latest direction it's headed is that the majority of the phenomenon isn't from another planet but something that's either:

1. A unknown civilization or entity hidden on this planet. That has been here before us and trolling us since it handed people the bible thousands of years ago.

2. And possibly tied in with #1, something about dimensions. Sime entity or civilization is here but unknown because it's in another dimension.
 

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The way I see it it’s either:
- there’s other life forms that’s been living on earth with us
- we’re some type of experiment
- beings from another dimension that crosses over every now and then

No matter what the government had been knowing what’s going on.
It could also be that there are other life forms that are here but don't care to be bothered with us unless we're doing something to fukk with something they have an interest in. The amount of UFO situations around military ops might be telling. But they may not have an intent with us. Imagine if humans gained the capability to really explore the depths of the water but it was expensive and highly highly dangerous so not done frequently. Deep water creatures may view us as an alien life form anytime we went down there but probably couldn't do anything about it or even fathom humans
 

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The latest direction it's headed is that the majority of the phenomenon isn't from another planet but something that's either:

1. A unknown civilization or entity hidden on this planet. That has been here before us and trolling us since it handed people the bible thousands of years ago.

2. And possibly tied in with #1, something about dimensions. Sime entity or civilization is here but unknown because it's in another dimension.
Imo its either “no one really knows” or “all of the above”

From what the latest Ive seen, it has been said is that it’s not JUST little green space men.. theres some big spooky shyt too.

- Ships aren't what we think, its why we can’t drive them or have made our own.

- Multiple different species some big af some small af. Different tech too

- Prefer to do their business in peace or behind scenes

- Some been here centuries

- They were left with a Rosetta Stone

Etc.

Coincidence that JWTS is picking up signs of life including something massive coming in our direction. Thats not science fiction, it’s actually been reported.

Scientist are taking it serious and feels government hindering science, etc.

Even Elon goofy ass was talking to that other goofy Tucker on TV the other day… it went un-acknowledged, but smug ass Elon was basically saying a lot of them are ours… which I don’t trust this dude at all now that you see who he associates himself with.

But w/e… lets just revisit thread in a few years
 
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Our government wasted resources having meetings to discuss what they know are hoaxes.


You're specifically talking about this government, right?





The fact that you would say such a thing sarcastically after the clownshow that Congress has been engaged in over the last 15 years is hilarious. :skip:

The main Congressman who has been pushing the hearings is Rep. Tim Burchett of Tennessee, who before he took on UFOs was most famous for pushing election denialism, conspiracy theories, fighting to legalize the eating of roadkilled animals, and promoting Bigfoot.









Burchett's main partner in this effort has been Anna Paulina Luna, a former Instagram influencer who wrote a children's book about Biden stealing the election. Claiming, "But congressmen held a hearing, it must be true!" is an even worse Argument from Authority than the pilots one. Not a single congressional hearing on the issue has resulted in a single serious piece of evidence.


They've made clear they don't know the slightest thing more than we do. Some are pushing it for clout and some are just pushing it because they need to put up a front for certain constituents, but the vast majority don't actually care at all which is why they hardly act on it.
 

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The latest direction it's headed is that the majority of the phenomenon isn't from another planet but something that's either:

1. A unknown civilization or entity hidden on this planet. That has been here before us and trolling us since it handed people the bible thousands of years ago.

2. And possibly tied in with #1, something about dimensions. Sime entity or civilization is here but unknown because it's in another dimension.

It could also be that there are other life forms that are here but don't care to be bothered with us unless we're doing something to fukk with something they have an interest in. The amount of UFO situations around military ops might be telling. But they may not have an intent with us. Imagine if humans gained the capability to really explore the depths of the water but it was expensive and highly highly dangerous so not done frequently. Deep water creatures may view us as an alien life form anytime we went down there but probably couldn't do anything about it or even fathom humans

Imo its either “no one really knows” or “all of the above”

From what the latest Ive seen, it has been said is that it’s not JUST little green space men.. theres some big spooky shyt too.

- Ships aren't what we think, its why we can’t drive them or have made our own.

- Multiple different species some big af some small af. Different tech too

- Prefer to do their business in peace or behind scenes

- Some been here centuries

- They were left with a Rosetta Stone

Etc.

Coincidence that JWTS is picking up signs of life including something massive coming in our direction. Thats not science fiction, it’s actually been reported.

Scientist are taking it serious and feels government hindering science, etc.

Even Elon goofy ass was talking to that other goofy Tucker on TV the other day… it went un-acknowledged, but smug ass Elon was basically saying a lot of them are ours… which I don’t trust this dude at all now that you see who he associates himself with.

But w/e… lets just revisit thread in a few years




There's literally zero evidence that anything non-human has ever visited us, and y'all talking about invisible civilizations and alternate dimensions. Why not, every time you make a claim, post at least ONE strong piece of evidence for that claim. Not just people talking or a gish gallop of bullshyt to sift through, but try at least ONE piece of evidence that supports anything you're saying at all.





But w/e… lets just revisit thread in a few years

Exactly! If 5 years go by and NHIs are no more real then than they are in 2024, will you admit you were wrong? What about 10 years? 30 years?
 

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There's literally zero evidence that anything non-human has ever visited us, and y'all talking about invisible civilizations and alternate dimensions. Why not, every time you make a claim, post at least ONE strong piece of evidence for that claim. Not just people talking or a gish gallop of bullshyt to sift through, but try at least ONE piece of evidence that supports anything you're saying at all.







Exactly! If 5 years go by and NHIs are no more real then than they are in 2024, will you admit you were wrong? What about 10 years? 30 years?

Look we get it, you're not accepting that something going on, godspeed to ya! I've been following this stuff around 30 years and have read and listened to so much info I've forgotten more than many people know.

Evidence? Yeah I know it's spotty. I believe there's a reason it's shabby.
44 I think it's something BEYOND our ability to capture because whatever it is, is beyond us.

It would be like a goldfish asking other goldfish for proof humans exist.

Can a goldfish prove to other goldfish humans exist??? fukk no!!! We're much too advanced for them and we may as well live in another dimension than them because they live in water.

I guess it takes your and other skeptics humbling yourselves that life out there more advanced than us......

.....

We may be nothing more than goldfish to them.
 

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Look we get it, you're not accepting that something going on, godspeed to ya! I've been following this stuff around 30 years and have read and listened to so much info I've forgotten more than many people know.

Evidence? Yeah I know it's spotty. I believe there's a reason it's shabby.
44 I think it's something BEYOND our ability to capture because whatever it is, is beyond us.


Yet it shows up on radar, infrared, cameras, and with the naked eye? And people repeatedly claim to see it perfectly clearly? The evidence is only shabby on film because whenever they get a clear picture on film, it becomes immediately clear that it's not a UFO.

Please explain to me why there are so many videos of supposed UFOs making mundane everyday flight movements, but video suddenly becomes impossible whenever it makes one of these "non-human" flight movements that humans claim to see with their naked eye just fine?





Can a goldfish prove to other goldfish humans exist??? fukk no!!! We're much too advanced for them and we may as well live in another dimension than them because they live in water.

What does "another dimension" mean to you? There is no physical meaning to this suggestion, nothing that suggests there are "other dimensions" for beings to live in where they would be separate from this one. It's an idea from scifi writers who don't know physics, not a real component of any physical theory. While other dimensions have been hypothesized, they would be a part of this reality that you're in too, not separate from it, and anything existed in our reality would be in all those dimensions equally because they're tied together in one experience, not something you can move between.

Imagine someone saying they existed in length and width dimensions, but not the height dimension. It's nonsensical, NOTHING in physical reality works that way. You can't exist in 2 dimensions and not exist in the 3rd. In the same way, even if there are 10 spatial dimensions (which is highly unlikely), we would be existing in all of them simultaneously, not in one or the other.





I guess it takes your and other skeptics humbling yourselves that life out there more advanced than us......

There easily could be life more advanced than us. There's just zero evidence whatsoever that it's anywhere within a thousand light years of us.
 

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Actually, it's not that we're goldfish...a better way to put it is we're characters on their computer screen.

And if the thought of that is too frightening, the they may be us.

We may have created a simulation to study whatever it is we're trying to learn a million years from now. In such a circumstance how the fukk are you going to get the evidence you want when the program youre living in is programmed for you not being able to obtain such?

That's what this situation is playing out to be. It's why some of the experts say that after all this time, they still don't know what it is. They know its "something" but what that something is they can't say. But don't skip over that "something".

This breh @Professor Emeritus is skipping over the "something". Yeah they probably can't accurately label or pronounce it but I think these people are professional enough to know if people just have wild imaginations.
 

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Yet it shows up on radar, infrared, cameras, and with the naked eye? And people repeatedly claim to see it perfectly clearly? The evidence is only shabby on film because whenever they get a clear picture on film, it becomes immediately clear that it's not a UFO.

Please explain to me why there are so many videos of supposed UFOs making mundane everyday flight movements, but video suddenly becomes impossible whenever it makes one of these "non-human" flight movements that humans claim to see with their naked eye just fine?







What does "another dimension" mean to you? There is no physical meaning to this suggestion, nothing that suggests there are "other dimensions" for beings to live in where they would be separate from this one. It's an idea from scifi writers who don't know physics, not a real component of any physical theory. While other dimensions have been hypothesized, they would be a part of this reality that you're in too, not separate from it, and anything existed in our reality would be in all those dimensions equally because they're tied together in one experience, not something you can move between.

Imagine someone saying they existed in length and width dimensions, but not the height dimension. It's nonsensical, NOTHING in physical reality works that way. You can't exist in 2 dimensions and not exist in the 3rd. In the same way, even if there are 10 spatial dimensions (which is highly unlikely), we would be existing in all of them simultaneously, not in one or the other.







There easily could be life more advanced than us. There's just zero evidence whatsoever that it's anywhere within a thousand light years of us.

As you state yourself, it shows up. It shows up in a manner which it yields no concrete evidence, but IT SHOWS UP.

That suggests to me that it's something that's beyond our STEM. Perhaps I'm off when I say we're comparable to goldfish to them. Perhaps it's closer, we may be like chimps to them. But they're far enough ahead that us gathering concrete evidence is beyond us.

For all we know it may be part of their defensive technology to not show up on video. It wouldn't be difficult to achieve.

When I speak on dimensions look, I'm just attempting to use a term and I acknowledge the use of it is probably wrong. But the intention is conveyed.

To surmise: my point is whatever this is, it is beyond our current STEM abilities to capture it.
 

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No point of arguing


You all need to start watching the science. Listen to the scientist bring up the topic… not a kmart debunker, scientists on the subject. Then read between the lines

They know something is there and want the real data.

And the technology is going to be something else to watch. Suddenly, Toyotas are about to start selling Hydrogen cars? Random Periodic Table Element a scientist casually brought up 30 years ago exists?
 

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No point of arguing


You all need to start watching the science. Listen to the scientist bring up the topic… not a kmart debunker, scientists on the subject. Then read between the lines

They know something is there and want the real data.

And the technology is going to be something else to watch. Suddenly, Toyotas are about to start selling Hydrogen cars? Random Periodic Table Element a scientist casually brought up 30 years ago exists?


Breh, I come from a scientist background myself and know hundreds of scientists. 90% of them don't even pay attention to the topic cause they know it has nothing to do with reality, and another 9% are debunkers. Scientists are WAY less likely to take this shyt seriously than the general public is.
 

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Too much smoke at this point, something is obviously going on that we can't account for. There are discussion amongst scientists right now debating on life forms evolving from plasma which is apparently everywhere in the atmosphere.
Which type of plasma?
 

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Which type of plasma?


The "state of matter" known as plasma - Ionized gases.




The idea that this could be connected to intelligent life is silly though. There isn't enough differentiation in a plasma environment to ever lead to any sort of higher-order life. The idea the scientists are proposing is that some sort of self-replicating structure could have evolved in a plasma and then incorporated other materials over time. That's a wild theory that I'd never heard before, and I don't know nearly enough about the processes they've uncovered to discount it. But only the very initial stages would have taken place in the plasma medium, even getting as advanced as a prokaryote like bacteria would require the complexity of a regular terrestrial/marine environment.
 
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