"New Forum Same shytty Team" The 1st ever Coli NY Mets rant thread

Tommy Fits

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Im a murph fan but you may be right

What the hell ever happened to Reese havens

Got off to an Ike like start at AA, finally caught fire around June.

As for the IF I'm not sold on Ike anymore. He may not be a .210 hitter but when he has been good it's been in short spurts. Murph, I like Murph. He swings a good bat for a 2nd basemen and his defense while still suspect has been improving. I'm higher on Murph than I am Ike. Our OF sucks, it has to be the worst in baseball. Our bullpen sucks and is probably the worst in baseball. And our catching situation is no better. Our starting catcher is a back up catcher on most mediocre teams. Things won't get better for a while and the Wilpon's will try and sell Wheeler and Harvey as franchise saviors like we're idiots that don't notice the massive holes just about everywhere else. If they finish .500 the Wilpons will push that as a success story because they have no respect for the fans.
 

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CINCINNATI—The specter of Bernard Madoff no longer hangs over the Mets. And the threat of a crippling lawsuit has passed. But as they slog through another summer of disappointment, their precise financial state remains something of a mystery.

This much we know: After settling a lawsuit filed by the trustee representing Madoff victims and selling $240 million worth of minority stakes in the team, the Wilpon family is no longer in danger of losing its grip on the Mets.

But it's unclear to what extent the team will be able to increase its payroll next winter, if at all, after a $50 million slash from 2011 to 2012.

When approached by reporters at Citi Field over the weekend, principal owner Fred Wilpon referred all questions to general manager Sandy Alderson. But in an interview Tuesday, Alderson said he isn't sure how money much he'll have to invest in talent this winter.

"I haven't had any conversations with ownership about it," Alderson said. "I'm still focused on 2012, as is the rest of the front office. Over the next several weeks, that focus will shift, but it really hasn't yet."

The Mets opened the season with a payroll of around $93 million, down from $143 million at the start of 2011. Though the severity of the cut did not become clear until the winter, a substantial decrease was expected. By midseason, Alderson knew the team was projecting a significant operating loss.

This year, he can only wonder. Do the Mets expect to lose less than $70 million in 2012? "I don't know the answer to that question," Alderson said.

In spring training, Wilpon emphasized the need to increase attendance, saying, "We need that revenue." But despite slashing some ticket prices, the Mets are drawing fewer fans again this year. They are averaging 28,979 fans per game at Citi Field, according to Baseball-Reference.com, down from 30,248 in 2011.

The state of the Mets' finances will have major implications for Alderson's ability to upgrade the roster. Though their starting rotation appears set for 2013, they will need to overhaul their bullpen, which entered Tuesday with the worst ERA in the majors (4.96).

They don't have a single viable, everyday outfielder. And they will attempt to sign third baseman David Wright to a lucrative, multiyear contract extension.

Alderson said he is more confident about re-signing Wright than he was last year with shortstop Jose Reyes, who signed with the Miami Marlins for $106 million. That is in part because the Mets hold a $16 million option to retain Wright for 2013, whereas Reyes was a free agent.

"I don't think it has to do with leverage exclusively," he said. "I think it's because at least there's a period of time when it's not do or die. I think he would like to stay in New York, not to the exclusion of all other considerations. And I think there's a willingness on our part to accommodate that."

The same is true with pitcher R.A. dikkey, who has become their ace. The Mets hold a $5 million option on him for 2013. They will attempt to sign him to an extension this winter, but Alderson wouldn't speculate on the likelihood of reaching a deal.

"That depends on what R.A. wants to do," he said. "I've told him personally I think he's part of our long-term solution and we'd like to have him here beyond next year."

The Mets entered Tuesday with a 55-60 record, which put them 16½ games out of first place. As 2012 increasingly becomes an afterthought, fans will continue to wonder about the future.

But at this point, there are more questions than answers.

The Mets picked up manager Terry Collins's option for 2013 at the end of last year, ensuring he wouldn't be viewed as a lame duck this year. But Alderson said he hasn't thought about whether to extend Collins through 2014 or beyond.

"It may have been wrong of me not to have thought about it," Alderson said. "Terry's done a great job again this year and I'm very happy with the job he's done and the working relationship he's had. That's something we'll consider a little bit into the future."

Mets' Payroll Picture Is Still Blurry - WSJ.com
 

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WSJ Article said:
By midseason, Alderson knew the team was projecting a significant operating loss.

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The Mets don't have the money for any worthwhile free agents.
 

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wow just 29K per game? And that number's gonna plummet too.

with the exception of the last home game, it's gonna be a morgue/place where Yankee fans go when those dweebs on Times Square try to get you into Comedy Clubs
 

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What's wrong w/ Melk?
Sure he won't hit .350 next year, but he's a lock for .340 OBP w/ .460 SLG and he'll be 29 next year. Yes, he's mediocre in the field, but he'll be here for 3-5 years(that's 4 prime years) while we can make a run at Justin Upton at the 2013 trade deadline or next off-season.

.340 obp isnt good. also, fukk paying him off his insane walk year season when by all accounts hes a fukkin clown who will probably revert back to be said clown as soon as we pay him like a superstar.

Giving Melky Cabrera big money off this season would be an awful, awful deal.
 

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The Mets don't have the money for any worthwhile free agents.

dont matter, b/c there are fewer and fewer in the game. teams lock up their stars now. too bad we dont have prospects to trade, bc thats where all the players are gonna have to come from. we might be able to make one big Johan type trade with a package of Harvey, Familia, Schmuckface, and Ballbag, but that kills our depth and hurts not our pitching.

This franchise is so unbelievably fukked its incredible. and to think for about a week this season i was really happy with them. dikkey and Wright had us thinking we were on our way, watch them both walk.
 
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dont matter, b/c there are fewer and fewer in the game. teams lock up their stars now. too bad we dont have prospects to trade, bc thats where all the players are gonna have to come from. we might be able to make one big Johan type trade with a package of Harvey, Familia, Schmuckface, and Ballbag, but that kills our depth and hurts not our pitching.

This franchise is so unbelievably fukked its incredible. and to think for about a week this season i was really happy with them. dikkey and Wright had us thinking we were on our way, watch them both walk.

No reason to do that let the young kids come up and youll have a nasty staff in a few years..

Teams nowdays can compete with sick pitching and a mediocre offense

Nimmo gonna be the truth too
 

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David Wright is willing to make at least one prediction about his baseball future: The dollars probably won’t matter as much as the opportunity to win championships.

After avoiding the topic of his contract for most of the summer, the Mets third baseman told The Post he is “optimistic” he will remain long-term with the only organization for which he has played, but he also needs to see in what direction the franchise is headed.


Wright is enduring a fourth straight August with almost no hope of reaching the playoffs. The Mets are expected to pick up his $16 million option for 2013 once this season concludes, and then have the winter to negotiate a long-term contract with the 29-year-old, who is poised to test free agency if he doesn’t have a deal in place by next March.


“The money issue for me, I don’t think that will be the deciding factor,” said Wright, who is batting .325 with 16 homers and 75 RBIs and .416 on-base percentage in the final guaranteed season of his six-year contract worth $55 million.

More important, he says, is a chance to win the World Series.

“You want to be able to win, and I’ve only experienced a little bit of that here,” Wright said. “In a perfect world, we get this thing turned around and going in the right direction and ultimately I get to experience the bad, the ugly and the good here, which includes winning.”

Wright was asked to assess the Mets’ chances of reaching that goal. The Mets are 55-60 and third in the NL East as they prepare to open a three-game series tonight in Cincinnati.

“We’ve taken a baby step in the right direction and I still think there’s a long way to go before you can say that we’ve kind of turned that corner where I think that we will,” he said.

But Wright pointed to prospects Matt Harvey and Zack Wheeler as reason to believe the Mets can rebuild their pitching in the same manner as the NL East-leading Nationals.

Wright said he has been “frustrated” by the last several seasons. That answer came in response to a question about whether he felt respected by the organization.

One of Wright’s friends from outside the organization was later asked what the third baseman meant by the comment.

“Very simple: Winners want to win and David desperately needs to win,” the person said. “Everything flows from that desire and need.”

Wright said the Mets have respected his request to delay contract talks until after the season. That will leave the Mets with essentially a four-month window of exclusive negotiating rights with Wright.

“I told these guys we’re not going to discuss it during the season, either this one or next, so I guess that’s a fair assumption,” Wright said. “If we’re not going to talk about it during this season or next season, then I guess the timing would be during this offseason.”
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Wright can only guarantee he will be listening closely to what the Mets have to say.

“Coming up through the system, I have a tremendous amount of loyalty to this organization,” Wright said. “I can’t tell you what the future holds, but I’m hoping — optimistic — that something will get done.”

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/will_to_win_ndnBMRtF2Lq3FSSjW6rvwO#ixzz23WYqsAUQ
 

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wow just 29K per game? And that number's gonna plummet too.

with the exception of the last home game, it's gonna be a morgue/place where Yankee fans go when those dweebs on Times Square try to get you into Comedy Clubs

29K is also misleading. The 29k also includes the tickets the team gives away for free or deals like where they had one game at 1962 prices. Attendance is a lot worse than people think.
 

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My prediction is 2013 will be the last season dikkey and Wright are in Mets uniforms. And instead of trading them to restock the farm, Wilpon will make Alderson hold on to them in a desperate attempt to have an extra 1k-2k fans in the stands. And all we will get for them is a couple of sandwich picks. Which Sandy and Co. will use those picks on signable players over high ceiling picks.
 
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