Netflix removes Chappelle Show at his request; Chappelle posts new standup bit about it

[ThrobbingHood]

Monique and Dave or two different storeis.

Monique wanted Netflix to give her money for a show that shyt hasn’t done yet. There was no contract she wanted more money.

Dave wants money for a show he created is out there and isn’t getting paid from.

Has Monique said something about the Parkers recently that I am not aware of ?

You’ve got to understand, shea butter and the moist militia want to drive a wedge between straight black men and women. Making such a tenuous link between the two shows how insincere they are.

I don’t doubt for one second that Monique’s gender and race played a factor in her being lowballed by Netflix. Even the courts agree. Having said that, Monique and Dave Chappelle are worlds apart in terms of comedy clout and success.

And whilst their war is against the same enemy, they are fighting two completely different battles. The fact that anyone would make such an asinine argument speaks volumes.

 

[ThrobbingHood]

They know better. It is the same shyt white people do when black people fight for their rights, throwing everything into the mix in an attempt to dilute and delegitimise the original message.

Seeing some blue ticks on the list. Wouldn't be surprised if they're connected to HBO writers.

I remember when Jerrod Carmichael made that HBO documentary recently and blue check Twitter all made carbon copy tweets encouraging people to watch it. They couldn’t even bother to make it seem like they weren’t on the payroll. Damn, it’s all a ruse.

 

[Umoja]

I remember when Jerrod Carmichael made that HBO documentary recently and blue check Twitter all made carbon copy tweets encouraging people to watch it. Damn, it’s all a ruse.

You see, this is why Chappelle is a great storyteller.

He set the foundation with the 3 card monte story, something we can all understand. Then you apply that story to other aspects of the industries: legal team, media, influencers.

The entire game is rigged.

 

[ThrobbingHood]

You see, this is why Chappelle is a great storyteller.

He set the foundation with the 3 card monte story, something we can all understand. Then you apply that story to other aspects of the industries: legal team, media, influencers.

The entire game is rigged.

Ive never seen this before. How many people got paid to promote this?!

 

[Paper Boi]

brehs don't ruin this thread with illogical hoe babble

 

[MegaManX]

This is why I don't do business with the a$$holes and try to make my films independently and distribute independently. They want to control narratives, take all rights, and destroy careers.

 

[ThrobbingHood]

brehs don't ruin this thread with illogical hoe babble

I feel you but I’m just pointing out where this narrative is heading just to discredit Dave.

 

[Michael's Black Son]

Let's be reality fukk netflix, the only reason they took it down is because of the stand up deal they have with Dave. If they were down they wouldn't have added chappelle show in the first place.

basically.

they don’t wanna throw anything murky in that working relationship so why not bow to his request when you know he’s the cash cow right now for the network.

And I high key think Dave is embarrassed about the show at this point. He himself told Okrah that he didn’t seem socially irresponsible shyt on that show, a lot which isn’t aging well. He will never live down the fact that these CACs weren’t laughing with him all along. The second he dipped, the suits looked for the next thing and it came in the form of Carlos Mencia along with Key and Peele. Clearly someone at the network back then overlooked Kevin Hart

Either way, Dave is lucky on this one. Netflix clearly didn’t wanna do it but they are thinking bigger and they know Dave has 2-4 more bankable specials in him. Play the long game because anyone outside of him, Seinfeld and maybe Kevin would’ve been told to eat a dikk because they signed a contract.

 

[Zero]

"They said I went crazy, that I was on crack, that's RIDICULOUS! I was a devout Muslim, I never smoked! I do now because YOU RUINED MY LIFE!"

The pain in this quote

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

All are very good points. Simply put, if you are broke as Dave was, there is no leverage. Master P had leverage because he was fairly educated on the workings of the music industry. They needed him more than he needed them because of the direct to consumer approach he used. I think it’s unfair to use an athlete in comparison because there is no direct to consumer relationship there to avoid the middlemen.

To be frank, I am almost certain Dave’s approach to business would be a lot different if he traveled back to the 2000s. He gets a better deal with incentives and kickback clauses. Yes Viacom is leveraging their assets on his talent but once that talent was proven, their should have been some form of royalty streams and merchandising baked into the deal where Viacom would be vested in his growth outside of Chappelles Show.

Above, all, Dave fukked up by getting a shytty attorney which is why he said “he is taking it back” after talking to his “agent”. For some of us, we know attorneys are crafty with language. Most will get paid either way the deal goes. It seems to me that his attorney was just as bad as his agent is.

Not saying you’re wrong, cuz I admit to not being knowledgeable about contracts in this industry, but did any of his contemporaries get that kind of deal? Like, did Chris Rock get a deal like that for his show with HBO? And Chris Rock was a much bigger name at the time he inked his deal with HBO.

If not, I have a hard to believing Dave would’ve got all that from Comedy Central. Seems much more plausible they would’ve just moved on to the next guy who did agree to their terms. At most, I could see Dave negotiating a single season deal and then demanding all of that when it came time to reup for the second season. This likely would have resulted in a smaller pay day for season 1, but he’d be betting on himself.

There could also be a race angle here too. Take Seinfeld for example...how big was he when he got his sitcom? Did he have ownership from the beginning, or did he get that in later seasons? I think Seinfeld is a good comparison on many levels since Seinfeld is still eating handsomely on his magnum opus. That’s what is likely eating at Dave. The Chappelle Show is the most lauded work of his career, it’s gotta suck to not be getting paid properly for it while you have to smile as everyone you talk to wants to bring it up to you.

 

[TEH]

There are no "i am desperate and will do anything to make it" clauses in contracts that you sign that null and void anything you feel is negative. He did not have to sign it but he chose so knowing the terms so i can get being angry, but CC is not screwing him.

 

[Zero]

Again, no one forced him to take the deal, NO ONE. He could said no, got more famous and tried again or just try to do something independent later on. Or he could of just shelved the idea and went on to do something else.

That's a gigantic "if" though, and I think you know that, hence why you ran out the thread

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

Real talk from a real one...

Props to Netflix for pulling it...

Never watching that show again...

 

[jwinfield]

try to sign a small deal, for like a few years max, or one with some options to renegotiate if you make certain milestones. put some money in your pocket then see how it goes.

He negotiated a new deal before the 3rd season, but left before finishing it.

Plenty. Look at how much money the marvel movies made Disney and take a gander at the contacts of the non Downey Jr stars. Chris evans made 300k to be captain America. Thor made 200k his first Thor movie. Gal Gadot made 300k for Wonder Woman That’s how contracts work. You are bound by what you agreed to. Whether it’s student loans you owe back and now want handouts to cover, or you don’t like the earnings and stipulations about your likeness after you signed it away in writing.

All of the Marvel guys got paid shyt their first contract, it's the 2nd deal that gives them the big money.

Marvel Money: How Six Avengers Made $340 Million Last Year

Marvel signs actors to multi-movie deals that also include promotional commitments. These deals often start off in the seven figures, which helps explain why newer superheroes like Brie Larson (Captain Marvel) and Tom Holland (the latest Spider-Man) didn’t make the Celeb 100 cut. But as actors stay with the MCU, their salaries increase. Veteran Marvel stars can command an upfront salary as high as $20 million (Downey). Others top heroes can earn in the neighborhood of $15 million (Hemsworth, Johansson, Evans), while second-tier characters make about $8 million (Rudd).

But the real money comes in later. All of this year’s listees proved so valuable to Marvel that they were able to negotiate for a piece of the profit—also known as contingent compensation—on both the ensemble Avengers films and their individual superhero films.

I wonder if Bill Burr is getting any money from it

Why would he get any money from it?

There could also be a race angle here too. Take Seinfeld for example...how big was he when he got his sitcom? Did he have ownership from the beginning, or did he get that in later seasons? I think Seinfeld is a good comparison on many levels since Seinfeld is still eating handsomely on his magnum opus. That’s what is likely eating at Dave. The Chappelle Show is the most lauded work of his career, it’s gotta suck to not be getting paid properly for it while you have to smile as everyone you talk to wants to bring it up to you.

Seinfeld had been doing stand up on late night and had an HBO special the year before getting the show. NBC almost canceled it after seeing the first episode.

I'm not sure if Jerry/Larry's cut of syndication would have been part of that initial contract.

We don't know if the $50M deal Dave signed included something about syndication.

 

[Splakavellie504]

"They said I went crazy, that I was on crack, that's RIDICULOUS! I was a devout Muslim, I never smoked! I do now because YOU RUINED MY LIFE!"

The pain in this quote

Man that one hit me the hardest bro. I was fortunate to grow up having an aunt that was a known figure in the music/entertainment business so i've had the opportunity to not just meet but be in personal spaces of some celebrities. "Hollywood" is the absolute fukking devil.