HarlemHottie
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- He says as a 28 year old he didn't understand what "likeness in perpetuity" really meant, despite being one of the most potent, intelligent comics alive.
His lawyer didn't explain?
- He says as a 28 year old he didn't understand what "likeness in perpetuity" really meant, despite being one of the most potent, intelligent comics alive.
This is unfortunate but you need to fully understand contracts and the ramifications before you sign them. It sounds like a shytty deal but it is one he signed and just because you get the short end of the stick does not mean you are getting jerked. Hopefully he can get something out of this but i doubt it.
A couple of things:
- Dave said he was struggling, but bro had starred in several movies and had two stand up specials before the deal and was a nationally known stand up comic, and if he had been blackballed and couldn't tour then he wouldn't have been able to shop his show with multiple networks in the first place.
- He says as a 28 year old he didn't understand what "likeness in perpetuity" really meant, despite being one of the most potent, intelligent comics alive.
- Before he came up with Chappelle show he had been away from Hollywood for years and moved to a farm in Ohio he called the "fvck you Hollywood farm".
- He left his own fathers deathbed to take an entertainment meeting in LA, something he regrets to this day.
Now if he can leverage getting paid after signing a shxtty deal then more power to him, but he signed that deal chasing stardom that he didn't know at the time would make him unhappy. He was VERY familiar with the Hollywood machine when he signed the show deal. He had been fuked by Hollywood several times before and kept coming back.
Do we blame the abuser when the abused keeps coming back?
It's not the understanding part. He signed it, like most entertainers do, because he was in a distressed financial situation at the time.Grown man business.
And a serious cautionary tale: don't sign anything you don't understand.
but yeah he’s a comedian, his job is to be funny
My father put me on game early and said, READ EVERYTHING before you put pen to paper. You could be selling yourself into slavery because of your name on paper. I 100% read everything, even the fine print.
This is why you listen to elders and why Black men NEED to be in the home with their family. So much shyt we have to deal with never gets told, or, if it is, no one believes it.
see the thing is Dave has LEVERAGE with Netflix. The content he has done with them has no middle man like this show which they would be paying comedy central to license. He could lean on that and I'm sure he did. His stand ups have been a blessing for netflix and they are exclusive.
His lawyer didn't explain?
It's not the understanding part. He signed it, like most entertainers do, because he was in a distressed financial situation at the time.
All are very good points. Simply put, if you are broke as Dave was, there is no leverage. Master P had leverage because he was fairly educated on the workings of the music industry. They needed him more than he needed them because of the direct to consumer approach he used. I think it’s unfair to use an athlete in comparison because there is no direct to consumer relationship there to avoid the middlemen.But you need the deal...cuz you’re broke.
What screwed Dave, is quitting his show when he did have the leverage. It’s like playing on a rookie deal and then getting that big contract once you’ve proven your worth. If you get injured before hitting free agency, you’re screwed. You may win 3 straight MVPs and 3 straight FMVPs in your first 3 years, but if you irreparably shred your knee on your final play then you’re never going to get that super max deal.
I’m curious, how do you guys think Dave would handle it differently if he could time travel back to the early 2000s knowing what he knows now? Not having that leverage, I’m not sure he gets a better deal. And if he stands on principle and walks away, his star may not get as bright to the point where can command $20 million per comedy special in 2016.
This message is a good cautionary tale for other up and coming artists as they’re more poised to build their brands outside of the major networks in ways that Dave could not in 2003.
The amount of stupidity in these tweets. Do they not understand the difference between someone asking you to boycott their show and the other asking you to boycott a WHOLE streaming service?
Monique and Dave are two different storeis.
Monique wanted Netflix to give her money for a show that shyt hasn’t done yet. There was no contract she wanted more money.
Dave wants money for a show he created is out there and isn’t getting paid from.
Has Monique said something about the Parkers recently that I am not aware of ?