Netflix might have one: Making a Murderer (Dec 18th)

[Objection]

Finished this last night and even if they did kill her the defense poked so many holes in the prosecutions' case that there was no way they should've come back with a guilty verdict. You have officers lying on the stand, evidence tampering and evidence planting. Yet there were no investigations, the judge allowed all the illegally gained shyt into evidence for a jury to hear. They coerced a confession out of someone who wasn't mentally capable to stand trial. All this is documented on video and both of them get life. How much more blatant does shyt have to be for a judge to give them another trial?

Once Brendan confessed you kinda had to figure he was done. Changing up your story on the stand like the teenage white girl did only makes it seem like you are protecting someone. The part that got me was when Brendan was like, I got the details from a book.Nobody believing that shyt. Lack of education and knowledge of the criminal justice system killed any chance he had of getting off.

 

[Microfracture]

There was more than a reasonable doubt that he did this. The dismissed juror basically said the jury wanted to go home so they convicted him.

You mean to tell me they searched his property 7 times and magically came up with this woman's car key (and only the car key no house keys or keychains) on the 7th search? And the key was on the floor of his bedroom?

Then you got Holbach's brother out for blood just trying to get an innocent kid dragged into it and convicted. Confession coerced like a MF.

There was more evidence pointing to Casey Anthony in that case than there was to Avery in this one and Anthony beat hers.

 

[DrHackenbush]

There was more than a reasonable doubt that he did this. The dismissed juror basically said the jury wanted to go home so they convicted him.

You mean to tell me they searched his property 7 times and magically came up with this woman's car key (and only the car key no house keys or keychains) on the 7th search? And the key was on the floor of his bedroom?

Then you got Holbach's brother out for blood just trying to get an innocent kid dragged into it and convicted. Confession coerced like a MF.

There was more evidence pointing to Casey Anthony in that case than there was to Avery in this one and Anthony beat hers.

Turns out 3 of the jurors had some sorta ties to the police also, cousins or uncles etc working there

 

[Microfracture]

Turns out 3 of the jurors had some sorta ties to the police also, cousins or uncles etc working there

Damn, jury tampering too.

Manitowoc county still being involved even though the investigation was in the hands of Calumet County was another thing that was overlooked. There was so much shyt that never flies in a court of law that got over in these trials.

 

[infamousred]

Finally finished this and the biggest red flag to me was simply audio.

Spoiler

'm referring to the goofy deputy who asked about Teresa's license plate number to the dispatcher and knowing the exact make and model of said SUV even before she supposedly went missing. You could just tell from his body language he was compltely lying about not being near it on the stand. Its pretty obvious he found her car and then they centered the whole framing around this. Another piece of audio about one of the other deputies wanting to meet up on Avery's property via a higher up who said he wanted them to "do something" the same day that exact vehicle was found there was pretty funny too wasn't it? I'm not even going to get into the key never being found until montauk was on the scene or the blood being tampered with after they found the car [\spoiler]

Fixed.

 

[AJaRuleStan]

Avery, with an IQ of 70, manages to wipe his trailer/garage clean of any blood/DNA content after shooting and dismembering homegirl.

 

[Sly Cookin]

Finished this last night and even if they did kill her the defense poked so many holes in the prosecutions' case that there was no way they should've come back with a guilty verdict. You have officers lying on the stand, evidence tampering and evidence planting. Yet there were no investigations, the judge allowed all the illegally gained shyt into evidence for a jury to hear. They coerced a confession out of someone who wasn't mentally capable to stand trial. All this is documented on video and both of them get life. How much more blatant does shyt have to be for a judge to give them another trial?

Once Brendan confessed you kinda had to figure he was done. Changing up your story on the stand like the teenage white girl did only makes it seem like you are protecting someone. The part that got me was when Brendan was like, I got the details from a book.Nobody believing that shyt. Lack of education and knowledge of the criminal justice system killed any chance he had of getting off.

The book he referred to called kiss the girls actually has most of the violent shyt he referred to. I could see a kid who is socially inept seeing a book called kiss the girls especially if he don't know how to approach girls. You think he made up reading that specific book?

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

Avery, with an IQ of 70, manages to wipe his trailer and garbage clean of any blood content after shooting and dismembering homegirl in his garbage

On some Dexter Morgan shyt...

Shot her 11 times and no blood splatter...

And then they expect us to believe that same forensic cleanup genius Steve Avery who lives in a salvage yard with a crusher didn't know how to dispose of the vehicle so he hid it behind some bushes in his own yard...

 

[Objection]

The book he referred to called kiss the girls actually has most of the violent shyt he referred to. I could see a kid who is socially inept seeing a book called kiss the girls especially if he don't know how to approach girls. You think he made up reading that specific book?

I wish the lawyers would have questioned him on it to see if he could remember any other details about the book besides some gruesome murder scenes. I wouldn't be surprised if he heard someone else say that sounds like Kiss the Girls and he just ran with it. I am just baffled at all the suspect shyt that they just let go like it wasn't important.

 

[re'up]

I need to watch the remaining 7 episodes or so, if I aim going to discuss and debate this case, online and off, as it well be conversation material for awhile.....however, having only watched a few episodes and read a lot of background on Avery and the Hlaboch case, here is what I think

1. I can believe, almost with no doubt that Avery was railroaded the first time, and the Sherrifs Department was perfectly capable of how that transpired.

2. I can believe that the Halboc murder investigation had some issues, regarding evidence, and chain of custody, possibility of planting or manipulating evidence. Also, that the trial may have had many errors on the prosecutions side, and LEGALLY Avery may have easily been declared not guilty.

3. I cannot believe that the Sherrifs department murdered a women, or planted her car in Avery's salvage yard to dismiss his lawsuit and get him sent to prison again. I cannot believe that a multi jurisdictional law enforcement task force conspired against Steven Avery. I cannot believe that the same women whom Aver interacted with, called the day of her murder, allegedly harrassed, turned up dead in his salvage yard and it's a set up.

I am willing to believe that others may have commited the murder or it was done in a group way, but there is no way I can believe Avery had NOTHING to do with her death. I would challenge the believers to come up with a plausible theory that explains all this....

 

[pickles]

I need to watch the remaining 7 episodes or so, if I aim going to discuss and debate this case, online and off, as it well be conversation material for awhile.....however, having only watched a few episodes and read a lot of background on Avery and the Hlaboch case, here is what I think

1. I can believe, almost with no doubt that Avery was railroaded the first time, and the Sherrifs Department was perfectly capable of how that transpired.

2. I can believe that the Halboc murder investigation had some issues, regarding evidence, and chain of custody, possibility of planting or manipulating evidence. Also, that the trial may have had many errors on the prosecutions side, and LEGALLY Avery may have easily been declared not guilty.

3. I cannot believe that the Sherrifs department murdered a women, or planted her car in Avery's salvage yard to dismiss his lawsuit and get him sent to prison again. I cannot believe that a multi jurisdictional law enforcement task force conspired against Steven Avery. I cannot believe that the same women whom Aver interacted with, called the day of her murder, allegedly harrassed, turned up dead in his salvage yard and it's a set up.

I am willing to believe that others may have commited the murder or it was done in a group way, but there is no way I can believe Avery had NOTHING to do with her death. I would challenge the believers to come up with a plausible theory that explains all this....

You watched only 3 episodes and typed up this bullshyt.

How about watching the whole series and then commenting?

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

I need to watch the remaining 7 episodes or so, if I aim going to discuss and debate this case, online and off, as it well be conversation material for awhile.....however, having only watched a few episodes and read a lot of background on Avery and the Hlaboch case, here is what I think

1. I can believe, almost with no doubt that Avery was railroaded the first time, and the Sherrifs Department was perfectly capable of how that transpired.

2. I can believe that the Halboc murder investigation had some issues, regarding evidence, and chain of custody, possibility of planting or manipulating evidence. Also, that the trial may have had many errors on the prosecutions side, and LEGALLY Avery may have easily been declared not guilty.

3. I cannot believe that the Sherrifs department murdered a women, or planted her car in Avery's salvage yard to dismiss his lawsuit and get him sent to prison again. I cannot believe that a multi jurisdictional law enforcement task force conspired against Steven Avery. I cannot believe that the same women whom Aver interacted with, called the day of her murder, allegedly harrassed, turned up dead in his salvage yard and it's a set up.

I am willing to believe that others may have commited the murder or it was done in a group way, but there is no way I can believe Avery had NOTHING to do with her death. I would challenge the believers to come up with a plausible theory that explains all this....

The defense never argued or implied the sherrifs department murdered anybody...

What they argued is that the Sherrifs department used this poor womans disappearance and murder to frame Steve Avery who was suing the county for $36 million...

You can believe whatever you want but if the prosecution does not prove beyond reasonable doubt Avery committed this murder you cannot in good conscience lock that man up for the rest of his life...The burden of proof is on the prosecution and the physical evidence in this case does not in anyway shape or form fit the prosecutions version of events...

The only thing the physical evidence proves in this case is blatant police corruption...

 

[re'up]

Would the theory be that it was coincidence or a conspiracy that the same women they used to frame him, was at his property the last day she was seen alive, and a women who was previously known to Steven Avery? In other words the perfect victim. Right there is a coincidence and a suspension of disbelief I cannot support..

 

[Sly Cookin]

I need to watch the remaining 7 episodes or so, if I aim going to discuss and debate this case, online and off, as it well be conversation material for awhile.....however, having only watched a few episodes and read a lot of background on Avery and the Hlaboch case, here is what I think

1. I can believe, almost with no doubt that Avery was railroaded the first time, and the Sherrifs Department was perfectly capable of how that transpired.

2. I can believe that the Halboc murder investigation had some issues, regarding evidence, and chain of custody, possibility of planting or manipulating evidence. Also, that the trial may have had many errors on the prosecutions side, and LEGALLY Avery may have easily been declared not guilty.

3. I cannot believe that the Sherrifs department murdered a women, or planted her car in Avery's salvage yard to dismiss his lawsuit and get him sent to prison again. I cannot believe that a multi jurisdictional law enforcement task force conspired against Steven Avery. I cannot believe that the same women whom Aver interacted with, called the day of her murder, allegedly harrassed, turned up dead in his salvage yard and it's a set up.

I am willing to believe that others may have commited the murder or it was done in a group way, but there is no way I can believe Avery had NOTHING to do with her death. I would challenge the believers to come up with a plausible theory that explains all this....

After you see the Brendan confession and see that it was a story that doesn't make sense with the lack of concrete evidence, then it'll make sense. The car, the bedroom, and garage either have no halback DNA or no steven fingerprints.

 

[Sly Cookin]

I cant get over the fact her key had none of her DNA. I don't see it discussed much and I didn't see it discussed in the court room. This key had to have been with her for a while and no DNA doesn't add up.