Nelly says his Era of rap was the toughest : “When I put out songs, I Had To go Against DMX, JAY-Z, Eminem, Lil Wayne, 50 Cent, Luda."
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I lived through the Nelly era, Country Grammar came out when I was entering 9th grade
His music was really hot and omnipresent, but mostly people never really took him seriously as a rapper or artist, not that I had deep discussions about artistry with my boys or girls in high school
my high school was weird in that I was in the first class to graduate, but my boys and I were THE "popular crowd", my closest friend sold weed, basically had his own place to throw parties, and drove like a tricked out Fast and Furious car, but he and I originally bonded over Nas, I Am, which is a long way to explain that even the "cool" kids didn't love Nelly like that. It was Nas and 50 Cent, Em, we still rode out to fukking PAC in 2002.
all that to say it really was a different time, to Nelly's point. It was like you loved Nelly's track, but were never excited to buy his albums or tell your boys "I got that new Nelly dog". He was always like a Ja Rule. Post 1999. Lots of people fukked with Ja, but even before the 50 thing, it wasn't like you embraced Ja as your favorite rapper.
Have memories of all those hits back then, watching girls dance at a house party in Spring Valley summer 2002 - Hot In Heere playing, smoking blunts, rolling up on a laundry machine
songs like E.I and Ride With Me too.
His music was really hot and omnipresent, but mostly people never really took him seriously as a rapper or artist, not that I had deep discussions about artistry with my boys or girls in high school
my high school was weird in that I was in the first class to graduate, but my boys and I were THE "popular crowd", my closest friend sold weed, basically had his own place to throw parties, and drove like a tricked out Fast and Furious car, but he and I originally bonded over Nas, I Am, which is a long way to explain that even the "cool" kids didn't love Nelly like that. It was Nas and 50 Cent, Em, we still rode out to fukking PAC in 2002.
all that to say it really was a different time, to Nelly's point. It was like you loved Nelly's track, but were never excited to buy his albums or tell your boys "I got that new Nelly dog". He was always like a Ja Rule. Post 1999. Lots of people fukked with Ja, but even before the 50 thing, it wasn't like you embraced Ja as your favorite rapper.
Have memories of all those hits back then, watching girls dance at a house party in Spring Valley summer 2002 - Hot In Heere playing, smoking blunts, rolling up on a laundry machine
songs like E.I and Ride With Me too.
The street part of hip hop/rap culture was still a lot sharper and more influential than it was now back in the late 90's/early 2000's
it was considered like a little too soft to really LOVE Nelly or Ja once they were singing. Post Kanye that changed.
in 2001 we were in the car and you put on EI, you would get clowned. Maybe at a party or on a mix. Or the radio. Re listening to Ride With Me, that was one we would probably play, that's a smoke and ride song. You would draw a line and say his debut was pretty widely embraced, but not LOVED --and after that it was considered kind of a joke.
And you think how homo phobia was a lot more intense back then, now kids were listening to XXX and Juice WRLD. We would have called that gay.
and it's funny how that old mentality stays with you, because even around late 2008/early 2009, I put my my homies onto DRAKE
but I was till like this shyt is too soft for me. Dude is a bytch. I can't listen to this p*ssy shyt. But times change, and I embraced his music a lot more since 2011, but even sometimes used to cut off Crew Love after Weeknd. lol.
it was considered like a little too soft to really LOVE Nelly or Ja once they were singing. Post Kanye that changed.
in 2001 we were in the car and you put on EI, you would get clowned. Maybe at a party or on a mix. Or the radio. Re listening to Ride With Me, that was one we would probably play, that's a smoke and ride song. You would draw a line and say his debut was pretty widely embraced, but not LOVED --and after that it was considered kind of a joke.
And you think how homo phobia was a lot more intense back then, now kids were listening to XXX and Juice WRLD. We would have called that gay.
and it's funny how that old mentality stays with you, because even around late 2008/early 2009, I put my my homies onto DRAKE
but I was till like this shyt is too soft for me. Dude is a bytch. I can't listen to this p*ssy shyt. But times change, and I embraced his music a lot more since 2011, but even sometimes used to cut off Crew Love after Weeknd. lol.
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NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Everyone enjoys party music at gatherings. I guarantee you that at get togethers, it’s the only place they listen to 00 music.
y’all can attempt to move the goal post as far as you want, but at the end of the day = y’all still gonna have to hold this L*you said commercial standpoint nikka* like , you do know da 90s had … MC Hammer , Vanilla Ice and Will Smith
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Mac Ten
Class of 97 !!!
Nelly can still perform those songs at a show...
Looking back, Universal saw Def Jam's formula for LL and decided to capitalize on it which worked. Basically Nelly gave Flo-Rida a lane to run with.
It's a bonus that Nelly didn't have to just rap about gangsta shyt although he had references sprinkled all through CG.
With that being said, I'm glad that I've supported Nelly. His music was fun and goofy.
Looking back, Universal saw Def Jam's formula for LL and decided to capitalize on it which worked. Basically Nelly gave Flo-Rida a lane to run with.
It's a bonus that Nelly didn't have to just rap about gangsta shyt although he had references sprinkled all through CG.
With that being said, I'm glad that I've supported Nelly. His music was fun and goofy.
Kinda confused by this post because Em, 50, Wayne, Outkast, and Ja are 90's rappers. Even Luda debuted in the 90's but I won't count him because he re-did his debut in 2000.
Fred.
As far as the thread, a smaller group of rappers in the 00's were doing huge numbers, there was more rappers selling records in the 90's over all though. I don't even know why this is a thread, it's obvious.
Fred.
Fred.
I added clarification for this posts ago in stating that even though they debuted in the 90's, their commercial peaks were in the '00's. Luda had his first guest spots in the 90's, but counting "Fat Rabbit" and "Catch Up", he had like two songs in the 90's. Definitely not a 90's rapper. 50's not a 90's rapper either. They didn't drop albums in the 90's.
"How To Rob" came out in 1999, it put him on the map. Nobody knows who he is in the first place, without that song.
I never said Luda was a 90's rapper.
Yes the rappers you listed sold more in the 00's....because rap was bigger in the 00's. But that's not what the thread is about. People are in here debating who sold more (00's artists vs 90's artists).
Fred.
"How To Rob" came out in 1999, it put him on the map. Nobody knows who he is in the first place, without that song.
I never said Luda was a 90's rapper.
Yes the rappers you listed sold more in the 00's....because rap was bigger in the 00's. But that's not what the thread is about. People are in here debating who sold more (00's artists vs 90's artists).
Fred.
And again, his debut album didn't drop in 1999. Jay Z was rapping in the 80's, but who really looks at him as an 80's rapper.
That's a terrible comparison because Jay had no solo songs, let alone one popular enough establish him as a solo artist, in the 80's.
The same cannot be said for 50 in the 90's. Hell, "Your Life's On The Line" was also out. A few songs off "Power Of The Dollar" were floating around in 1999, how old are you?
Fred.
That's a terrible comparison because Jay had no solo songs, let alone one popular enough establish him as a solo artist, in the 80's.
The same cannot be said for 50 in the 90's. Hell, "Your Life's On The Line" was also out. A few songs off "Power Of The Dollar" were floating around in 1999, how old are you?
Fred.
But 50 would hardly be considered a 90's rapper. I'm old enough to remember "How To Rob" premiering on Hot 97.5 ATL in Spring/Summer 1999 and all the drama it caused with some of the artists he mentioned. I remember the first singles from Power of the Dollar as well, but that was more so 2000 than it was 1999. "How To Rob" wasn't even 50's song, that was for Madd Rapper's album.
