Neil deGrasse Tyson’s 20-Minute TAKEDOWN of Christianity

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This passage is explaining indentured servanthood, not slavery like we think of today. In ancient Israel, a Hebrew person could “sell” themselves into service for up to six years to pay off debt or survive poverty (they didn’t have credit cards and loans back then. This was their setup not Gods lol).

In the seventh year, they had the right to go free, no matter what (people tried to keep them forever and all types of weird rules)

If the master gave the servant a wife (another servant), she and the kids stayed unless the man chose to stay too. If he loved his new family and wanted to stay, he could voluntarily commit to lifelong service, marked by a pierced ear.

This wasn’t forced slavery…it was a regulated system to help the poor, with built-in freedom and rights, rights at the time people tried to fight against. What you’re reading is a list of rules that really broke the system.

You seem really hung on trying to prove the Bible supported slavery, when actually man created these institutions and tried to manipulate man into it from greed and evil
 
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I can't imagine trying to convince hardcore scientists of anything of faith, as I couldn't imagine trying to convince hardcore evangelists of matters of science.

Faith fills the gap between the explainable and the unexplainable. The ancient babylonians believed that a sun god protected them because they didn't understand eclipses (I completely made that up but the point stands), a scientist might discount anything that isn't explainable thru the scientific method or "theory" which, IMO, is the scientific form of faith.

It is a pointless argument. Most people I come across believe a good amount of both. The science we see, the theory that makes sense, the scripture that applies to modern life, and the space between is faith.

Don't argue pointless arguments.
 

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White surpremacy uses everything from education to religion as a tool for indoctrination. We are docile and seem almost incapable of critical thinking. If there was some truth in Christianity I'm afraid it's been b*stardized and corrupted over the centuries. We playing a game of telephone over 2000 years and 4-5 different language translations

Yet I still believe in a higher power but I just can't see it in Christianity as it is today. Also seeing how America white washed MLK I can only imagine how Jesus was changed up.
 

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I can't imagine trying to convince hardcore scientists of anything of faith, as I couldn't imagine trying to convince hardcore evangelists of matters of science.

Faith fills the gap between the explainable and the unexplainable. The ancient babylonians believed that a sun god protected them because they didn't understand eclipses (I completely made that up but the point stands), a scientist might discount anything that isn't explainable thru the scientific method or "theory" which, IMO, is the scientific form of faith.

It is a pointless argument. Most people I come across believe a good amount of both. The science we see, the theory that makes sense, the scripture that applies to modern life, and the space between is faith.

Don't argue pointless arguments.
That's a silly comparison. A theory needs to be tested and proven multiple times. Also, if new evidence arises then that will be tested to see if that is true. Faith relies on belief and even when presented with contradictory evidence one must stick with their belief to strengthen their faith
 

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White surpremacy uses everything from education to religion as a tool for indoctrination. We are docile and seem almost incapable of critical thinking. If there was some truth in Christianity I'm afraid it's been b*stardized and corrupted over the centuries. We playing a game of telephone over 2000 years and 4-5 different language translations

Yet I still believe in a higher power but I just can't see it in Christianity as it is today. Also seeing how America white washed MLK I can only imagine how Jesus was changed up.
We have texts that are 2,000 years old with nothing changed

Another easily debunked myth.

@2 Up 2 Down beem quoting Dr Bart all up and down this thread who HATES Christianity yet

The New Testament is far and away the best-attested work of ancient writing in the world. There are more manuscripts of the New Testament than any other ancient work—by thousands. No one doubts what Plato, Aristotle, or Homer wrote—yet we have vastly fewer manuscripts of their work than we do of the New Testament.”— Bart D. Ehrman

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That's a silly comparison. A theory needs to be tested and proven multiple times. Also, if new evidence arises then that will be tested to see if that is true. Faith relies on belief and even when presented with contradictory evidence one must stick with their belief to strengthen their faith
A scientific theory seeks to prove how or why but cannot be proven thru math or pure observation. That is the scientific equivalent of faith, to me. Faith also can change based on society and understanding of the world. MOST christians actually believe dinosaurs existed, believe it or not...MANY believe in evolution, but believe the 'how' is God...that God designed/guided evolution...that is an evolution of faith.

That said, i'm not trying to convince you because like I said, I don't argue pointless arguments.
 

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A scientific theory seeks to prove how or why but cannot be proven thru math or pure observation. That is the scientific equivalent of faith, to me. Faith also can change based on society and understanding of the world. MOST christians actually believe dinosaurs existed, believe it or not...MANY believe in evolution, but believe the 'how' is God...that God designed/guided evolution...that is an evolution of faith.

That said, i'm not trying to convince you because like I said, I don't argue pointless arguments.

"A scientific theory is an explanation of an aspect of the natural world that can be or that has been repeatedly tested and has corroborating evidence in accordance with the scientific method, using accepted protocols of observation, measurement, and evaluation of results. Where possible, theories are tested under controlled conditions in an experiment.[1][2] In circumstances not amenable to experimental testing, theories are evaluated through principles of abductive reasoning. Established scientific theories have withstood rigorous scrutiny and embody scientific knowledge."


"Faith is confidence or trust in a person, thing, or concept.[1] In the context of religion, faith is "belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion".[2] According to the Merriam-Webster's Dictionary, faith has multiple definitions, including "something that is believed especially with strong conviction", "complete trust", "belief and trust in and loyalty to God", as well as "a firm belief in something for which there is no proof".[3]"
 

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We have texts that are 2,000 years old with nothing changed

Another easily debunked myth.

@2 Up 2 Down beem quoting Dr Bart all up and down this thread who HATES Christianity yet

The New Testament is far and away the best-attested work of ancient writing in the world. There are more manuscripts of the New Testament than any other ancient work—by thousands. No one doubts what Plato, Aristotle, or Homer wrote—yet we have vastly fewer manuscripts of their work than we do of the New Testament.”— Bart D. Ehrman

:whoo:
Even believers know the text have been altered, bruh:francis:

I posted a video of Bart's but I haven't been quoting him.
If he hated Christianity, he wouldn't be teaching it


No where in his videos will you hear him say that he hates the religion. He clearly still finds it fascinating even after losing his faith and is still friends with many Christians


 

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"A scientific theory is an explanation of an aspect of the natural world that can be or that has been repeatedly tested and has corroborating evidence in accordance with the scientific method, using accepted protocols of observation, measurement, and evaluation of results. Where possible, theories are tested under controlled conditions in an experiment.[1][2] In circumstances not amenable to experimental testing, theories are evaluated through principles of abductive reasoning. Established scientific theories have withstood rigorous scrutiny and embody scientific knowledge."


"Faith is confidence or trust in a person, thing, or concept.[1] In the context of religion, faith is "belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion".[2] According to the Merriam-Webster's Dictionary, faith has multiple definitions, including "something that is believed especially with strong conviction", "complete trust", "belief and trust in and loyalty to God", as well as "a firm belief in something for which there is no proof".[3]"

The “Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

The Bible tells us NOT to have blind faith. We will find EVIDENCE for these things if we really looked.

You googled the American English definition of faith and not the Biblical text
 

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Science has done more harm to the world than Christianity :yeshrug:
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Since we have a lot of stupid black b*stard brehs when it comes to denying God’s existence I’ll say this so the thread can be ended.

Unless you are a dishonest intellectual dipshyt you will understand this and realize how fukking stupid your logic is.

Any of you in here who have had sex with a woman you would NEVER listen to a VIRGIN try to tell you what sex feels like because you know they have no fukkING CLUE!

So an atheist trying to tell someone who has had a LITERAL ENCOUNTER with God, that God doesn’t exist you’re like the virgin trying to tell Lexington Steele what sex feels like.

You sound like an absolute fukkING IDIOT!

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Since we have a lot of stupid black b*stard brehs when it comes to denying God’s existence I’ll say this so the thread can be ended.

Unless you are a dishonest intellectual dipshyt you will understand this and realize how fukking stupid your logic is.

Any of you in here who have had sex with a woman you would NEVER listen to a VIRGIN try to tell you what sex feels like because you know they have no fukkING CLUE!

So an atheist trying to tell someone who has had a LITERAL ENCOUNTER with God, that God doesn’t exist you’re like the virgin trying to tell Lexington Steele what sex feels like.

You sound like an absolute fukkING IDIOT!

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literal encounters?

God used to pull up on people every other week in the OT, strangely these occurrences seem to have lessened as people became less reliant on parables and folklore for society to sustain itself...
 
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