NEGROPHOBIA: an indepth discussion.

[Counter Racist Male]

Sure, you can. White Supremacy isn't about 'race', but 'class'.
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(Most) Arabs are Ca​

If White Supremacy was about 'race', then Mexican people wouldn't have been classified as 'White' from 1850 to 1920.​

The reason Caucasians are considered 'White' is because of PT Barnum....​

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/how-white-people-became-caucasian.300064/​

then why are wealthy blacks ‘whites’ the logic says otherwise.

 

[MischievousMonkey]

Sure, you can. White Supremacy isn't about 'race', but 'class'.
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Then we're not talking about the same thing, and that makes white supremacy a concept incapable of tackling ideas that negrophobia actually engages with.

I talked about the white supremacy & class-reductionism (what you might be doing) here:

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/cla...undation-of-white-supremacy-narrative.786763/

Also, East Asian negrophobia cannot be understood as a class issue

 

[Counter Racist Male]

East Asians?

East Asians aren’t Arabs. Over the last century and a half they have gotten much of their views on black people from white conquerors, traders and subsequently the white media.

 

[MischievousMonkey]

Exactly. It's the term used here in France amongst decolonial thinkers and more radical political anti-racists. Obviously the mainstream hates the term and never uses it, they'd rather use the vague "racism". Like one of them said, Negrophobia is the cornerstone of racism, because Negrophobia is found everywhere, including among non-Black "POC".

Facts.

I mean they afraid to say noir, so you will never catch them using "negrophobia"

It would also make other minorities mad and stimulate their own negrophobia

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

then why are wealthy blacks ‘whites’ the logic says otherwise.

The logic holds when you understand that 'race' is only beneficial to those with the power to define what it is.

The Irish were NOT 'White' until the 19th Century.​

 

[Counter Racist Male]

The logic holds when you understand that 'race' is only beneficial to those with the power to define what it is.

The Irish were NOT 'White' until the 19th Century.​

That doesn’t change anything when talking about the situation black people are in.

 

[CopiousX]

The logic holds when you understand that 'race' is only beneficial to those with the power to define what it is.

The Irish were NOT 'White' until the 19th Century.​

Where does this narrative keep coming from? There has never been a separate census category for Irish, nor for Italians/Greeks/lesser whites.




We keep circulating these stories amongst ourselves, but they aren't tied to any reality. Inter-race rivalry does not splinter into its own race group.Thats like saying that because Yorubas and Igbos don't get along, then they are no longer Nigerian. Or better yet a Yoruba/Igbo is no longer Black.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Then we're not talking about the same thing, and that makes white supremacy a concept incapable of tackling ideas that negrophobia actually engages with.

That's because 'negrophobia' doesn't exist, but White Supremacy does. White Supremacy coupled with slavery engendered 'racism'.
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Also, East Asian negrophobia cannot be understood as a class issue

Negrophobia doesn't exist. White Supremacist-engendered racism does. This puts ALL dark-skinned people in the lowest 'class'.​

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

That doesn’t change anything when talking about the situation black people are in.

Our situation is due to being legally, socially, and financially defined as the lowest 'class' based on skin-shade and Nationality.....or lack thereof.....back in the 17th Century.​

 

[MischievousMonkey]

East Asians aren’t Arabs. Over the last century and a half they have gotten much of their views on black people from white conquerors, traders and subsequently the white media.

I'm not saying they are Arabs. I've given the example of negrophobia in Arab countries to explain how it wasn't encompassed in white supremacy. You argued that Arabs are white as well to you.

I conceded (even though I clearly do not agree), and brought up another example: East Asians.

Now to you saying they have gotten their views from white contact, I say:

East Asians had their own contacts with Africans. For example:

(5:02)


Many point to the fact that colorism and mistreatment of darker skinned individuals, which is linked with negrophobia, is actually indigenous to Asian cultures (Indians, Chinese, Japanese).

I don't necessarily disagree that white culture might have influenced their perception of Africans. But how can you prove that their behavior toward Blacks is the direct fruit of contacts with whites, and only contacts with white culture, when some evidence points to the contrary?

 

[mbewane]

Facts.

I mean they afraid to say noir, so you will never catch them using "negrophobia"

It would also make other minorities mad and stimulate their own negrophobia

Exactly!

 

[MischievousMonkey]

That's because 'negrophobia' doesn't exist, but White Supremacy does. White Supremacy coupled with slavery engendered 'racism'.
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Negrophobia doesn't exist. White Supremacist-engendered racism does. This puts ALL dark-skinned people in the lowest 'class'.​

Yes it does. You don't know what the topic at hand though. That's alright. I'm out.

 

[CopiousX]

Negrophobia should be the term dominating the public dialogue imo when it comes to anti-black racism and white supremacy.

Because it doesn't only focus on the particular black plight, it also encompasses anti-black hatred from other groups than white people. With negrophobia, you can talk more accurately about the global anti-black culture and its branches in Arab culture, Asian culture, etc, than you could do it with the term "white supremacy".

Could we focus on one target at a time?



Presumably the one that has its foot up 99% of black people's assss?




While arabs have an unusually large yoke on sahel Africans and Asians hold an unusual yoke on Malagasy africans, they are not responsible for most problems for black people globally.


It would suck if we took on that germanWW2 strategy of taking on everyone(on the planet) at once, and becoming vulnerable on all fronts.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Where does this narrative keep coming from? There has never been a separate census category for Irish, nor for Italians/Greeks/lesser whites.

They were put, historically, in the 'non-White' or , "All other free persons" category.

Race and ethnicity in the U.S. Census​

 

[Blessings]

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