Nearly half of new HIV infections are among young, black males

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If you double something and its still statistically insignificant, then....its still statistically insignificant. That's basically what you're talking about here.
obviously its not insignificant if women are catching HIV more than hetero males.

And I didn't come in this thread to defend women, I corrected your assertion that women had the highest number cases of HIV. Thats still true.

I never said women had the highest cases. I said women AND homosexual males have the highest rates. Both have higher rates than hetero men. My point wasn't even about women, it was about homos. Woman catch aids more than hetero men because they come in sexual contact with homosexual men and heterosexual men don't.

Since then, we have moved on to you making assertions about it being impossible for straight males to catch HIV/AIDS because they have penises and its hard for penises to get it. Or something like that. Thats where we are now.
I never said it was impossible, just not very likely. You continue to mock and ignore human anatomy and biology, when its all there for you to see. I didn't make it up, I provided a link to proof and you ignored it.

Last time: What I have been trying to explain to you is that you are putting to much emphasis on these transmission rates that differ wildly from study to study, and not enough on EXPOSURE. Heterosexual women have a higher number of incidences because they are more EXPOSED to the highest risk group, whether they know it or not. But, right now, in comparison to MSM, heterosexual women have fewer cases of the disease, and thus heterosexual men seem to go unaffected. But this is not static as you are claiming, if the HIV rates among women continues to rise.

:usure:Show me a study with widely different transmission rates. HIV rates are actualy going down amongst all demographics except gay men. Like I said without gay men the desease wouldn't be transmited enough to make a big impact on society.

If you don't believe it is more about EXPOSURE than statistically insignificant transmission rates, look no further than the figure you posted yourself with the breakdown of incidences by gender and orientation. It is no surprise that, unlike other races of women, Black women's rates of infection are astronomical, since they have a higher risk pool to choose from, considering the incarceration rates of Black men (their pool) and the MSM that happens there. Now, isn't it curious that heterosexual Black men, in turn, have higher rates than all other heterosexual women (whom you keep saying are at risk and hetero men aren't)?? It shouldn't be, because THEIR pool is riskier. And as I said, it is likely that the number is under-reported for hetero Black males, and it is even more of a cause for concern with promiscuous behavior is prevalent and encouraged, since that also increases chance of exposure.

Why does the CDC disagree with you? According to them it has more to do with poverty and access to healthcare than anything else. And these numbers aren't of "reported" cases they are all estimations and they go by people admitting to their sexual experiences. I'm sure both the black men and black women numbers are overstated.

Also again black men are more likely to lie about anal sex and drug use. If we subtract drug use and down low brothers the black men numbers would be even lower. If it was all about exposure black men and women's numbers would be equal but they are not
 

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I remember a thread on here where that dude Gunshi posted some tranny "dating" site and it was riddled with thirsty niccas trying to get at trannys :scusthov: That could be another way niccas are trying to justify gay sex on some "it looks like a girl" type shyt :gag: Sex aint worth dying for brothers :snoop:
 

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the problems that when most black people hear this, they do this

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Actually it's easier to get fukking one partner multiple times. :yeshrug:

If we know that person is infected, of course it is. In most cases you wouldn't know that, therefore it’s a matter of multiple more partners and thus multiple more chances of being exposed to one that is infected.

obviously its not insignificant if women are catching HIV more than hetero males.

Because of the different pools are you kidding me :snoop:

I never said women had the highest cases. I said women AND homosexual males have the highest rates. Both have higher rates than hetero men. My point wasn't even about women, it was about homos. Woman catch aids more than hetero men because they come in sexual contact with homosexual men and heterosexual men don't.
At least you admit this. Now if we can get you to realize that if women are coming more in contact with MSM and becoming infected, hetero men will too. Maybe to a lesser extent than hetero women because it is harder to transmit, but maybe even more because of sexual behavior and promiscuity.

I never said it was impossible, just not very likely. You continue to mock and ignore human anatomy and biology, when its all there for you to see. I didn't make it up, I provided a link to proof and you ignored it.

I guess Black men ignored anatomy and biology as well. White women and Latino women too, because they should clearly have it more than heterosexual Black men, since they are impervious, and it really all comes down to transmission rates.
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:usure:Show me a study with widely different transmission rates. HIV rates are actualy going down amongst all demographics except gay men.

But how could this be? According to your logic, whoever is inserting the penis is impervious to HIV/AIDS, even when engaging in anal sex (I don’t even see how that doesn’t raise some questions in your head). Or at least, it’s highly unlikely. How can it be that their rates are going up? Are there only a few “tops” having sex with thousands of “bottoms” and passing it on? Or could it just be about exposure to an extremely high risk group :ohhh:

Why does the CDC disagree with you? According to them it has more to do with poverty and access to healthcare than anything else. And theses numbers aren't of "reported" cases they are all estimations and they go by people admitting to their sexual experiences. I'm sure both the black men and black women numbers are overstated.

Yes, because we all know how poor gay white men are?

I’ll link some studies after I’m done eating.

Also again black men are more likely to lie about anal sex and drug use. If we subtract drug use and down low brothers the black men numbers would be even lower. If it was all about exposure black men and women's numbers would be equal but they are not

Lol where are you getting that Black men are more likely to lie about anal sex and drug use? And I don’t think you are getting what exposure is based on your last sentence? If you are talking about hetero Black females and males, their numbers would not be equal because they are not equally exposed.
 

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Meach just answer this so I can see when I get back:

If its just about transmission rates, why do less White/Asian/Latino women have the disease than Black men? Especially considering the amount of MSM who are infected in their communities?
 

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Because of the different pools are you kidding me :snoop:
If it was all about different pools white women would have similar rates. There are more white men with aids then there are black men, so why are white women's rates so low? It's poverty and healthcare not pools.


At least you admit this. Now if we can get you to realize that if women are coming more in contact with MSM and becoming infected, hetero men will too. Maybe to a lesser extent than hetero women because it is harder to transmit, but maybe even more because of sexual behavior and promiscuity.
Your conclusion is flawed because HIV rates are down for EVERYBODY but gay men. If your conclusion was correct rates would be up across the board but they are not



I guess Black men ignored anatomy and biology as well. White women and Latino women too, because they should clearly have it more than heterosexual Black men, since they are impervious, and it really all comes down to transmission rates.
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Again I never said men were impervious. I said it is not very likely which I have proven to you. One more time it's about poverty and healthcare. Black women are more likely to get it because they are more likely to be living in poverty.



But how could this be? According to your logic, whoever is inserting the penis is impervious to HIV/AIDS, even when engaging in anal sex (I don’t even see how that doesn’t raise some questions in your head).
:comeon: again I never said impervious, that's what you keep claiming I said. I think they call that a strawman argument.

Or at least, it’s highly unlikely. How can it be that their rates are going up? Are there only a few “tops” having sex with thousands of “bottoms” and passing it on? Or could it just be about exposure to an extremely high risk group :ohhh:
there rates are going up because they are having booty sex and they are spreading it amongst each other. Let me ask you this if it's not about anatomy and transmission rates, then what makes the gay communty high risk? Shouldn't they be at the same risk as everyone else?


Yes, because we all know how poor gay white men are?

I’ll link some studies after I’m done eating.
No they engage in anal sex so they get the disease. I'm talking about the racial disparities in the numbers. Black people are more likely to catch the disease because they are more likely to live in poverty. Again I'm not making this up, this is the analysis of the CDC, you can ignore it if you want.


Lol where are you getting that Black men are more likely to lie about anal sex and drug use? And I don’t think you are getting what exposure is based on your last sentence? If you are talking about hetero Black females and males, their numbers would not be equal because they are not equally exposed.
It's much less accepted in the black community to be gay. And black men are more likely to go to prison. How many dudes come home from jail admitting that got their culo blasted?

You don't understand your own argument. If it was all about exposure black men and black women would have similar numbers. It wouldn't matter who's homosexual or not because the disease would be spreading equally. Hetero black men would have a much higher rate, they don't because women aren't passing the disease on, men are.


In conclusion gay men and women have higher rates because it is much easier for the person being penetrated to catch the disease. Black people have higher rates due to higher rates of poverty. I have provided scientific, biological, and statistical proof to back up my point. You have provided nothing but speculation to refute my point.
 

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Meach just answer this so I can see when I get back:

If its just about transmission rates, why do less White/Asian/Latino women have the disease than Black men? Especially considering the amount of MSM who are infected in their communities?
Because they are less likely to be living in poverty, and going to jail. And their men are more likely to know they have the disease and be open about their health.
 
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