NBA legends discuss LeBrons legacy, Kobe says LeBron has no excuses, needs to be a better leader

[G-Zeus]

Why else would they bypass Kobe and go right for Michael Jordan comparisons?

wasnt he compared to kobe before his second ring all the time???

 

[KingJay]

It's not that they once were, they generally still are Kobe haters

 

[lurker emeritus]

it's a cycle. kobe was the anti iverson (squeaky clean). then came colorado. and lebron became the anti kobe. then came the decision...rinse, repeat.

 

[Long Live The Kane]

And im not even making an excuse, but lets be serious here, this Golden State team is the best team that has ever been assembled. Jordan, nor Kobe has ever faced a team this good. This current GS team would beat every Champion of the past 30 years. Their only comp would be the Kobe/Shaq Lakers because no one on Golden state would be able to stop Shaq down low. And i still think it wouldnt be that close without a total meltdown from GS.

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Recency bias is a muhfukka.... This team isn't unbeatable by a long shot .. The finals made it look that way because the Eastern conference is an absolute fukking joke...but Houston had the dubbs on the ropes no question about it, the WCF were the REAL finals...Had them down 3-2, and with double digit leads at half-time of game 6 and 7...a cp3 hamstring away from Golden State's entire set up being in question... i understand every team that beats LeBron gets a lil extra overrated as a coping mechanism for his myth making, and the dubbs really are great... But let's dial it back just a little bit with this "they dominate every champion in the modern era of basketball" shyt just cause LeBron got swept off the floor in embarrassing fashion

James Harden and a bunch of role players were half a game's worth of historically bad 3point bricking from knocking them off... Just needed Chris Paul to run a lil real offense

 

[T.he I.nformant]

Facts.. would dead ALL the comparisons but bron didn’t hold up his end

Bron been to the last 8 finals. Kobe been retired that long?

 

[Houston911]

Its funny how Kobe's calling out someone's leadership when he never was a leader. He has scoring and killer instinct, but he never was a leader for his team or making his team mates better. Neither was Jordan. They both had Phil to do that. Where was Kobe's leadership skills when they werent making the playoffs or getting bounced out in the first or second round. Oh yeah, he was having a meltdown, shytting on his team mates, threatening to leave the franchise. You guys have some selective memory and apply standards to Lebron that were never stressed when Kobe was playing.

Kobe and Jordan’s teammates say the exact opposite

Both led by example with their work ethic

What are yall even talking about?

 

[B...]

Bron been to the last 8 finals. Kobe been retired that long?

We both know exactly what I’m talkin bout fam.. the whole world was buying into the Cavs/Lakers finals hence the Nike puppet commercials that were shown nonstop.. Kobe made it those years but bron didn’t.. by the time he made that decision to run to Miami, Kobe body was starting to break down & the lakers themselves were not the same team so the opportunity had passed post Achilles Kobe doesn’t even count to me cuz he was an entirely different player..

We were definitely robbed of a once in a lifetime series between these 2 that would’ve deaded a lot of the debates we have to this day & it sucks Kobe > bron still though as far as a pure basketball player goes

 

[Dark Knyght]

Kobe and Jordan’s teammates say the exact opposite

Both led by example with their work ethic

What are yall even talking about?

Their personal work ethic is great. That doesnt make your team mates better, or advise/coach them in situations, or get the most out of them. Thats coaching. Jordan or Kobe never had to do that because Phil Jackson did that.

Their work ethic doesnt affect another individual unless that person wants to be better themselves.

 

[Thegospel]

WE KNOW LEBRON PUTS UP INDIVIDUAL STATS .. U SLOW? THATS WAS KOBE’S ENTIRE POINT SMFH

Such a dumb T-shirt. BRon be playing his own damn self

 

[MoneyTron]

Their personal work ethic is great. That doesnt make your team mates better, or advise/coach them in situations, or get the most out of them. Thats coaching. Jordan or Kobe never had to do that because Phil Jackson did that.

Their work ethic doesnt affect another individual unless that person wants to be better themselves.

You aren’t making any sense. You don’t have to coach to lead your teammates.

 

[I AM WARHOL]

Bron's greatest gift is his greatest curse. He's talented enough to bring all of his teammates to places they shouldn't. However, his ability to run an offense doesn't allow for other talented teammates to flourish(in most cases). Everyone has to acquiesce to Bron's game.

Crazy enough as it sounds, more singularly focused players are easier to integrate with.

Its economics. Specialization. Lebron needs to pick a lane. Stay in it. And empower his teammates to do what they do.

It's really no different than a great scorer not trusting his teammates and taking all the shots. Lebron just does that in a more encompassing way

 

[10bandz]

Kobe and Jordan’s teammates say the exact opposite

Both led by example with their work ethic

What are yall even talking about?

Kobe played 20 years and these nikkas love to define his whole career from what happened in 2005-2007

and then they always leave out those some of those same guys he lost in the 1st round with in 06 and 07 were the same guys he won a title with in 09

 

[Raw Lyrics]

Michael Jordan punched teammates in the face....you think they wanted to play with him forever?

Michael Jordan was standoffish to a lot of his teammates. You think they wanted that forever?

Bron buying teammates suits, going on field trips etc., of course they wanna play with him forever.



Except for Kyrie

LeBron should have punched Korver in his face, instead of the whiteboard.

Perhaps if Korver was a little fearful of LeBron he would have hit some shots in the finals.

 

[Raw Lyrics]

And im not even making an excuse, but lets be serious here, this Golden State team is the best team that has ever been assembled. Jordan, nor Kobe has ever faced a team this good. This current GS team would beat every Champion of the past 30 years. Their only comp would be the Kobe/Shaq Lakers because no one on Golden state would be able to stop Shaq down low. And i still think it wouldnt be that close without a total meltdown from GS.

This GS team that went tooth and nail with The Rockets? This same GS team that the Cavs actually had a chance to beat them in 2 of the 4 games?



What rules are being applied? Cuz Curry, Durant, and Klay aren't exactly physical specimens.

 

[TheNig]

Its economics. Specialization. Lebron needs to pick a lane. Stay in it. And empower his teammates to do what they do.

It's really no different than a great scorer not trusting his teammates and taking all the shots. Lebron just does that in a more encompassing way

So you get the narrative that everyone wants to play with LeBron. But I the end they'll end up like JR Smith and Rodney Hood:

It’s almost … it’s a blessing and — it’s a gift and a curse. You play on his team, and you’re playing with the best player in the world and you get to witness some great historic things and be a part of it.

“Then, on the other side, if you don’t help that person win, they’re looking at you, too. So it’s a lot of pressure, depending on how you look at it.”

Hood may have felt pressure at Duke, but being on LeBron’s team cannot compare because of the stuff that goes along with being one of James’s teammates.

“This is something different. It has been tough,” Hood told The Undefeated’s Marc J. Spears. “The basketball stuff has been the easiest part. The stuff that comes out of it, you lose a game and everyone talks about it on TV the next day. They may say some things that you may not agree with. If you win a game, you’re supposed to. Those kind of things are something I kind of got on a much smaller scale and dealt with at Duke.

“You lose a game and you feel like the world is coming down. You win, it’s like, you’re supposed to win. It’s still a struggle to me to adapt to that. … I was playing at such a high clip when I got traded [from Utah] and then this is my first time having DNPs [did not play] in life. The first time shooting two times or five times in a game. Having to adjust is the toughest part. It’s a part of my growth. I’m not going to always be in this state.”

People like to look at GS as this super powered team, which they are, but the best part about this team is they allow each to be themselves.

Players have to minimize themselves to a degree playing with LeBron.