That’s not what Kobe or by extension, Jordan, said.
NBA legends discuss LeBrons legacy, Kobe says LeBron has no excuses, needs to be a better leader
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Bilz
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Are you defending him or attacking him?Kobe played 20 years and these nikkas love to define his whole career from what happened in 2005-2007
and then they always leave out those some of those same guys he lost in the 1st round with in 06 and 07 were the same guys he won a title with in 09
Kobe played 20 years and these nikkas love to define his whole career from what happened in 2005-2007
and then they always leave out those some of those same guys he lost in the 1st round with in 06 and 07 were the same guys he won a title with in 09
And they also never acknowledge the fact Kobe played in the West. If he was in the East, he wins more games those seasons and definitely makes it further in the playoffs.
The eastern conference has been the JV conference in the NBA for all of Kobe and LeBron's careers. And its a major reason for why it looked like LeBron was having more team success from 2006-07. He was simply facing weaker competition while Kobe played tougher competition.
Until you realize chris Paul and harden took 3 games and we're an injury away from taking out gs even with their best player choking for 4 straight games
LeBron cant get even one game tho
Exactly. This here is the main point Kobe was trying to make. That is why he included the part about confrontation being necessary to being a good leader. And how it isn't always pretty.
There has to be a degree of fear of the best player on the team by the rest for the team for them to play at their highest level. And if you don't get this, then you've never played competitive sports in your life. I know when I was younger, I liked to play ball in the park with older kids. Because they were older and not my friends, I played with a level of fear in those games. I was extra focused to not mess up so that they wouldn't get mad and not let me play with them anymore. If I was just playing with my friends and we're not really scared of one another then the approach to the game is way different. You don't have the extra level of fear to not mess up motivating you to play at a higher level. That is the point Kobe is making.
You can't just have individualized hand-shakes with all your teammates and call that leadership. You can't just pat them on the back. Or do that passive aggressive shyt LeBron does when he's mad where he doesn't directly confront the situation but rather talks vaguely around it. That sort of leadership doesn't inspire the right level of fear by your teammates where they play at their highest level possible. You best believe when Kobe and Jordan's teammates were out there on the floor with them in the NBA Finals, they had way more fear of their leaders than the Cavs have of LeBron. They know if they mess up like JR did in game 1, all LeBron is gonna do is pout on the bench and punch a whiteboard in the locker room. If JR did that with Kobe or Jordan, he knows he would have a black eye waiting for him the locker room cause Kobe and Mike were gonna punch him in the face rather than a whiteboard. And its that healthy level of fear of the leader that would have made JR not fukk up like he did in game 1 if he played with Jordan or Kobe.
LeBron simply doesn't inspire a healthy level of fear in his teammates to make them play at their highest level.
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IllmaticDelta
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Until you realize chris Paul and harden took 3 games and we're an injury away from taking out gs even with their best player choking for 4 straight games
LeBron cant get even one game tho
that houston team is better than the cavs team outside of lebron.
1. cp3 is an elite 2 way player which means he occupied curry on both ends w.o needing double team help. Even kyrie couldn't do that because he's a one way player
2. houston has more athleticism than the cavs.
3. harden playing like sh1t (all they big plays were made by cp3) and houston still taking them 7 is all you need to know. lebron scored 50 and the game was still close
What about the Spurs (without Kawhi) or the Pelicans? You gonna try and say Lamarcus Aldridge's supporting cast was better than LeBron? What other all-star did Aldridge have with him when he took a game from the Warriors?
Pelicans and Spurs both took a game off the Warriors. Bron getting swept by them has no excuses. That was simply embarrassing and another black mark on his resume.
IllmaticDelta
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curry didn'tplay
anthony davis and jrue holiday (2 way playing pg...the the type you need vs curry)
no curry. The cavs would smoke the warriors if it was just durant w/o curry
see above
We essentially saw the Warriors without Curry in Game 3 when he played an all-time bad game and the Warriors still won thanks to 43/13/7 from KD.
Warriors still sweep the Cavs without Curry because Kevin Durant now owns LeBron whenever they match up.
panopticon
Superstar
@Swagnificent...u back from the dead??? 
All your predictions about Lamar Jackson coming true breh...apparently the young lion is BEASTIN shyt in Baltimore
Glad to have you back
All your predictions about Lamar Jackson coming true breh...apparently the young lion is BEASTIN shyt in Baltimore
Glad to have you back
Marc Spector
the 4'11 Cuban
Like I cant knock Lebron for taking his career into his hands the way he did, but at some point reality has to set in about his age, diminishing athletic peak, and the now ultra collaborative relationships between the GMs/Coaches/and players that equals success in today's NBA.