Albums Nas - The Lost Tapes 2 (Discussion Thread)

[JustCKing]

I don't think the situations are comparable. Maybe they're cool, as you said. I'm just basing it on Timbo pulling a Kanye and falling out with Hov...maybe the same happened with Nas. Breh isn't getting noteworthy placements anymore, just seems like something is up. You guys made some other points that suggest you could be right, like Timbo being at the Echo vid premier (I didn't know that).

Timbaland still gets noteworthy placements. He is working on Kanye's new album. He's been in the studio with Snoop. There was just this video of him working with Ludacris apparently helming Luda's next album. He was on Mariah's last album as well. Beyonce just tacked on a Timbaland produced song from 2013 to that Homecoming live compilation she put out.

Even Large Professor was confused as to why Nas hasn't released the music he did with Timbaland. He even described the songs as crazy. Huge deal coming from Large Professor considering he didn't consider "One Mic" to be great and was very critical of Nas's past work with Tim ("You Owe Me" and his verse on Missy's "Hot Boyz").

 

[spliz]

It doesn't mean anything. They still follow each other on Instagram. Nas was very positive about Timbaland when Swizz asked him about the whole Swizz vs Timbaland battle. They've done shows and have even taken pictures. If there was real issues, it would've been spoken of.

Nas verses have appeared on other songs before most notably the song he did with Raekwon in 2009. Are made it a single even though parts of that verse was on Untitled.

The Timbaland tracks aren't the only songs that didn't make Lost Tapes 2. I guess Nas also had a falling out with Large Professor and The Beatminerz too because he has work with them too, but evidently those songs aren't on Lost Tapes either.

Nas isn't above putting years old songs on albums. "Cherry Wine" was finished in 2008, but didn't come out until 2012. "You're Da Man" was a song Nas sat on from the Nastradamus sessions.

U sure bout that? He referenced Jay, Carmen, and the beef on that song.

 

[Neuromancer]

I can't stop listening to this trailer.

 

[Controversy]

U sure bout that? He referenced Jay, Carmen, and the beef on that song.

Nas & Jay were subliminally dissing each other since 99

 

[Big Mark]

Thing is. With tracks like Legendary, Association, and Cops Keep Firing. Those were all included on the ****** Tape. Which was an OFFICIAL mixtape from Nas. Its his only official mixtape, so I doubt any if those songs would have been included on a Lost Tapes since they’ve already been “officially” released

Maybe but maybe not. Everybody’s Crazy appeared on Stillmatic and again on The Lost Tapes. The way I see it is that it’s Nas’ shyt and can put that shyt out if he wants. I think it might be different if it was something from a Clue Tape. I don’t know but Legendary was attached to that Mike Tyson movie.

 

[Big Mark]

@Ziggiy what do you know about Snitch Alibi?

I’m thinking that Nas released out quite a few quality bonus tracks on Life is Good. He really has quality vaults.

 

[spliz]

Nas & Jay were subliminally dissing each other since 99

Like I said. He mentioned the Carmen shyt. Nas didnt even know about that until 01.

 

[Ziggiy]

@Ziggiy what do you know about Snitch Alibi?

I’m thinking that Nas released out quite a few quality bonus tracks on Life is Good. He really has quality vaults.

Snitch Alibi dropped in December of 2010. So if it were from any particular album session it would’ve been Untitled.

 

[Air Nikes N Hats]

Put out all your hard work with top tier artists for free brehs...

You have a point but, I was referring more to material that will never get placed on projects because of label politics and/or sample clearance issues. Id like to be able to listen to high quality versions of the The Scientist & the original Help (there's video of TI recording Help with the Barry White sample....which never made it to the album because the label didn't want to give Barry Whites estate points on the album for using it)

 

[re'up]

I really don't think You're The Man was recorded in 1999, it does have that very Death of Escobar style almost, but it's more personal on You're The Man, he's shedding his skin on that one. I want to say that was recorded in summer of 2001.

 

[Ziggiy]

The biggest surprise to me is that none of the Timbo tracks made it. I remember Nas describing these tracks as "powerful". Maybe Nas is saving it for his next album but it would be uncommon for a new LP to include 5+ year old songs.

Nas is prolific for reusing verses so he could either rework the songs with Timb or simply reuse the lyrics with other Producer’s beats

 

[Ziggiy]

Like I said. He mentioned the Carmen shyt. Nas didnt even know about that until 01.

Nas knew about the Carmen shyt prior to 2001. When Is That Your bytch Remix dropped Nas called Carmen and asked her if it was about her. She confirmed and Nas went crazy and went to the Roc-A-Fella offices to fight Jay but only Dame was there. Dame refused to come down.

That is from Carmen’s book.

Also Nas spoke on the situation in The Source magazine. He admitted that “You Know Who Did You Know What” was code for “I banged Your Baby Mother” so all of this was out in the open at LEAST 1-2 years prior.

 

[Ziggiy]

I really don't think You're The Man was recorded in 1999, it does have that very Death of Escobar style almost, but it's more personal on You're The Man, he's shedding his skin on that one. I want to say that was recorded in summer of 2001.

Let me clear this up.


Large Professor gave Nas the beat for the Nastradamus sessions but Nas didn’t record to it UNTIL the Stillmatic sessions. Large was actually surprised that Nas remembered the beat and used it.

 

[JustCKing]

U sure bout that? He referenced Jay, Carmen, and the beef on that song.

Large Professor gave him the beat during the I Am/Nastradamus era. It is very possible he recorded it during that time. Jay had already recorded "Is That Your Chick", which referenced Carmen back in '99.

 

[JustCKing]

One thing I never see mentioned in regard to unreleased Nas songs are the No I.D. and Jermaine Dupri sessions from Untitled. There was some information that No I.D. and Jermaine Dupri completed like four songs with Nas. One of them was a version of "Project Roach". Another one was the song below:



No I.D. had a Myspace page where he talked about Untitled back in 2007 in the earlier stages of the album.