Albums Nas - The Lost Tapes 2 (Discussion Thread)

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Anyone’s guess at this point. All we know for sure is that Nas has been planning this particular version of Lost Tapes for five years, it was always going to come out on Mass Appeal, and Mass Appeal, being distributed by Sony, allows Nas access to those Sony/Columbia vaults.

So the BEST guess could be that these are pre-Def Jam tracks, of which we know there are hundreds if not thousands of unreleased music.

Whats unknown is if Nas has access or has negotiated rights to the unreleased Def Jam songs, which presumably includes an entire album’s worth of material with both Timbaland and Swizz Beats, unreleased collabs with Damien Marley, Will I Am, Pete Rock, and Premier, and snippets of work with Khalil, Jermaine Dupri, and Just Blaze. There is also work he was doing guided by Hip Hop Since 1978 that was supposed to be the album before Nasir.


Stupid question, but how do labels know when and what songs you record? Like if Nas recorded a song back in 2001 at a home studio, how would the label know what songs he did under their contract? Even if you charge the label for studio time, how do they know what you recorded if you have your own engineer?
 
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Stupid question, but how do labels know when and what songs you record? Like if Nas recorded a song back in 2001 at a home studio, how would the label know what songs he did under their contract? Even if you charge the label for studio time, how do they know what you recorded if you have your own engineer?

I don’t know:ohhh: i always figured that the producer would have to submit some type of paperwork to the label for the Masters/publishing placement
 

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Stupid question, but how do labels know when and what songs you record? Like if Nas recorded a song back in 2001 at a home studio, how would the label know what songs he did under their contract? Even if you charge the label for studio time, how do they know what you recorded if you have your own engineer?
In many cases there are ways to find out.

For example: no Nas songs were recorded by Just Blaze pre Def Jam.

Nas may also have snippets out or the lyrics will specifically date the material.

The label probably has heard many more records submitted than what makes the final version of albums.

When we hear a track like "know the real" on a 10th anniversary edition of Illmatic we know that it was recorded for it was written.
 

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Stupid question, but how do labels know when and what songs you record? Like if Nas recorded a song back in 2001 at a home studio, how would the label know what songs he did under their contract? Even if you charge the label for studio time, how do they know what you recorded if you have your own engineer?

The masters. When you submit songs for mixdown, they goto and are now owned by the label. They get the final copy and have paperwork. Now some of those songs might not be chosen for the final album. Some artists are able to negotiate that they get the masters to songs that never ended up with official release.

You of course could holler at your engineer to keep a track for you and not submit for mixdown, but remember the artist is actively recording songs for the intent of putting out on their upcoming album, so not many know which ones will end up getting cut after mixdown.
 

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These tracks were all on mixtapes which means they were leftovers from work sessions. I know Play Rough was but were the other two from the I am era too?
 

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I still think this will either be 2016 album or tracks we've already heard pop up on tapes and online that were in other albums recording sessions and Im fine with that (thats what Lost Tapes 1 was, nothing on that was totally unheard before except Purple)

I wouldnt speculate too much about something that was shelved or vaulted for decades finally being released
 

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I still think this will either be 2016 album or tracks we've already heard pop up on tapes and online that were in other albums recording sessions and Im fine with that (thats what Lost Tapes 1 was, nothing on that was totally unheard before except Purple)

I wouldnt speculate too much about something that was shelved or vaulted for decades finally being released

I’m kind of in agreement with you on the part where you said he could possible go with tracks we already heard. Yes, the original lost tapes was like that and if we Were to get full or original versions (utilizing the original cleared sample) of

Colors
The Scientist
My Will
War
Who are You
Snitch alibi
Hope
America
Be a ****** too

I would be satisfied simply because for one, they all deserve official release. Secondly, color and the scientist would be complete and quality versions. And the same with war and my will. For me, on the first lost tapes, there were 3 songs that I had never heard (purple, nothing last forever, and my way) and we finally have the perfect version of gotta love it. I was cool with that.

Then again, who can really predict what the god will do.
 

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The hiphop world will once again come at a halt when this gets release. I think ppl want this more than an actual nas album. Thoughts?
 
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