Nas - NASIR (Discussion Thread)

MartyMcFly

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I have to say that Teyana's album is damn classic. My personal favorite. I love r&b so I'm biased but the beats are incredible. It only proves the greatness of Kanye to be able to switch up genres like that.

Yeah I love her album. Even if she doesn’t. She also got screwed in this process
 

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It's a decent album. A few of the songs have very weak lyrics and it was obviously rushed but the moments when it comes together are dope.

It was an experiment for Nas. Usually he works on his albums for months or years and picks beats from various producers but this time the turnaround was much shorter and he left the direction up to Kanye. About half the time the experiment works, the other half it doesn't. I think the production here is much more interesting than the generic shyt he's often used historically, but sometimes his bars and flow let him down ('Not For Radio' and 'Everything' are laughable factually and philosophically).
 

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Yeah I love her album. Even if she doesn’t. She also got screwed in this process
I understand she's an artist but it's the best work she's ever put out. She sounds amazing filtered through Kanye's production. Made me check out her older shyt and I can't listen to it.

Just my personal take. Not a dis to her. She's amazing and sexy but she needs Kanye.
 

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It's a decent album. A few of the songs have very weak lyrics and it was obviously rushed but the moments when it comes together are dope.

It was an experiment for Nas. Usually he works on his albums for months or years and picks beats from various producers but this time the turnaround was much shorter and he left the direction up to Kanye. About half the time the experiment works, the other half it doesn't. I think the production here is much more interesting than the generic shyt he's often used historically, but sometimes his bars and flow let him down ('Not For Radio' and 'Everything' are laughable factually and philosophically).

He was being facetious on Not For Radio. I don't agree with the anti-vaxxer stuff on the second verse on Everything, but the worst part of that song is not that but actually Kanye's singing which goes on for way too long.
 

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Yes man and I’ll explain why lol.

Nas feels so out of pocket and out of his element here. Like extremely. Echo? That’s a Nas song. That’s him in his element and sounding like he cares and having the common decency to find a pocket on the beat. He put out 7 songs and there are maybe two that I really still mess with and would put on a Nas playlist. And even then they’d be low on the playlist.

He’s at his best observing the world around him and juxtaposing that world with his inner thoughts or sins or telling stories. This album is mostly him being hedonistic and that’s never worked for him. Kanye said he wanted to make the Nas he likes and apparently he likes I Am era Nas because for me, that’s what this feels like. Hollow and vapid and surface level. Even Cops Shot The Kid, which I like, is a lesser version of songs he’s made in the past with more insightful observations. Meanwhile on Echo, he says more in that 2-3 min that he did on this whole album.

After my initial hype wore off I just couldn’t get with this anymore and it’s real telling that as soon as it dropped he was already talking about the next album with swizz and rza and said this is something Kanye wanted to do. To me, that implies this was a Kanye album not a Nas album.

Just my thoughts tho. I couldn’t put it all into words until I heard Echo. But I’m glad you or anyone else are still feeling this album. I wish I was in the same boat. Just expected more from Nasty as I always do

i actually think the album came out a classic

i believe everyone thought it would be 10 "still dreamings"

it just wasnt the album everyone wanted or expected

what makes a nas album for me is three fold;

lyrics are rebel to america
concepts are what up kid
beats are turn the bass up

if he hits these nodes then i am happy as a listener and for nas he has been very consistent since his first album

this is just another chapter in his legacy and i find this album to be what pusha or kanye said it was "all of nas best moments"

not songs; moments. i find every song to be a nod to nas best moments post it was written.

radio / streets disciple
cops / godson
white / i am
bonjour / hiphop is dead
everything / life is good
simple / stillmatic
adam / lost tapes

end of the day its all opinions and i respect someone explaining they position

NASIR as a release was an experiment; its creation process was the opposite of nas usual creation cycle

it was created under a tight time constraint as opposed to the usual

album wouldve sounded better if the mixing/mastering was better. some of the songs sound "undone" or have to be nudged/cut etc.

at the end of the day i dont care about static or demos or any of that shyt; i actually love it if the music is good
 

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I don't agree with the anti-vaxxer stuff on the second verse on Everything, but the worst part of that song is not that but actually Kanye's singing which goes on for way too long.

agreed kanyes singing is too long and is the worst part (doesnt ruin song for me tho)

but how is the 2nd verse anti-vax?

he stated a fact
 
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