Nas - NASIR (Discussion Thread)

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Kelis tried to metoo him right when it dropped and kanye was on his maga shyt. Thats where the hate comes from

Not for me. Homie was off beat most of the album, sounded uninterested for a good portion of it, and the beats didn’t mesh that well with him:manny:

It’s 7 tracks of the worst parts of I Am minus the crisp flow
 

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Love Kanye and love Nas. I just wished they could've put in more time and Kanye/Nas could've put out a "Be” effort. Would've been majestic.

Yup. These two together should’ve made something on that level. Or at the least,
Finding Forever. No surprise that Daytona was the best project of this group because it was the one with the most time and work put in. Everything after was rushed to the finish line.
 

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Nas.....Sounds......Best.....Over.....Gritty......Traditional...... Hip Hop......Production !!!!!





Nas has no business rhyming over "Not For Radio" or "White Label" and shyt like that, imo, that loud noisy shyt. Nas has had great moments over the more worldly, commercial production (See IWW and Lost Tapes) but I feel like those style beats don't accentuate what he is best at, that traditional hip hop sound. Think of all his really stellar moments in terms of fire records since Illmatic (not lyrics because he is always stellar there), the majority of them shyts were that traditional/ gritty hip hop vibe shyt.

Locomotive
Made You Look
You're Da Man
If I Ruled the World
U Gotta Love It
Get Down
Nas is Like
M.O.B.
The Foulness
Last Words
Take It In Blood

Etc... that's just off the top. With his songs with that vibe he is like a 95% shooter, with the other songs with other types of sounds not so much. Nas is Shaqish, just dunk, nobody can fukk with you, you don't need to pull up from 30 because Jay-z or Big or whoever does that.

Nas could easily have seen the same amount of commercial success with that sound than he has experimenting with other sounds, imo.
 

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Nas.....Sounds......Best.....Over.....Gritty......Traditional...... Hip Hop......Production !!!!!





Nas has no business rhyming over "Not For Radio" or "White Label" and shyt like that, imo, that loud noisy shyt. Nas has had great moments over the more worldly, commercial production (See IWW and Lost Tapes) but I feel like those style beats don't accentuate what he is best at, that traditional hip hop sound. Think of all his really stellar moments in terms of fire records since Illmatic (not lyrics because he is always stellar there), the majority of them shyts were that traditional/ gritty hip hop vibe shyt.

Locomotive
Made You Look
You're Da Man
If I Ruled the World
U Gotta Love It
Get Down
Nas is Like
M.O.B.
The Foulness
Last Words
Take It In Blood

Etc... that's just off the top. With his songs with that vibe he is like a 95% shooter, with the other songs with other types of sounds not so much. Nas is Shaqish, just dunk, nobody can fukk with you, you don't need to pull up from 30 because Jay-z or Big or whoever does that.

Nas could easily have seen the same amount of commercial success with that sound than he has experimenting with other sounds, imo.
If I Ruled the World is far from gritty sounding production. The Trackmasters are as radio friendly as you get for the 90s
 

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If I Ruled the World is far from gritty sounding production. The Trackmasters are as radio friendly as you get for the 90s
This was the talk back then, that it was "commercial". But if you listen to that beat, that shyt is a boom bap hip hop beat that Nas bodied. It just didnt sound like illmatic, that's what the critics of it really meant
 

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This was the talk back then, that it was "commercial". But if you listen to that beat, that shyt is a boom bap hip hop beat that Nas bodied. It just didnt sound like illmatic, that's what the critics of it really meant
I understand were you’re coming from but they dressed that gritty beat up with an R&B hook and radio friendly sample
 

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Nas.....Sounds......Best.....Over.....Gritty......Traditional...... Hip Hop......Production !!!!!





Nas has no business rhyming over "Not For Radio" or "White Label" and shyt like that, imo, that loud noisy shyt. Nas has had great moments over the more worldly, commercial production (See IWW and Lost Tapes) but I feel like those style beats don't accentuate what he is best at, that traditional hip hop sound. Think of all his really stellar moments in terms of fire records since Illmatic (not lyrics because he is always stellar there), the majority of them shyts were that traditional/ gritty hip hop vibe shyt.

Locomotive
Made You Look
You're Da Man
If I Ruled the World
U Gotta Love It
Get Down
Nas is Like
M.O.B.
The Foulness
Last Words
Take It In Blood

Etc... that's just off the top. With his songs with that vibe he is like a 95% shooter, with the other songs with other types of sounds not so much. Nas is Shaqish, just dunk, nobody can fukk with you, you don't need to pull up from 30 because Jay-z or Big or whoever does that.

Nas could easily have seen the same amount of commercial success with that sound than he has experimenting with other sounds, imo.

It doesn't even have to be gritty. He sounds best over songs with hard drums. He rhymes to the drums, nearly every time. If you give him beats with trap drums he's not gonna find that pocket as easily. If you give him slow drums he's gonna give you some shyt like Blunt Ashes. Give him a breakbeat and he's gonna knock it out the park, 9 times out of 10.

I think it's safe to say Adam & Eve is universally considered the best song on Nasir. It got the best reaction during the listening party and is the only song on the album that kind of works live. Nas sounds inspired as fukk on it. Listen to the drums. Now listen to...Not For Radio. Those slow ass faux trap drums don't work for Nas, he's not that type of rapper.

Nas sounds "off" on the album because of the drums, simple as that. Every now and then he'll knock something out the park with slow or limited drums. Echo comes to mind. Overall? He's gonna go to the drums.
 

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Nas.....Sounds......Best.....Over.....Gritty......Traditional...... Hip Hop......Production !!!!!





Nas has no business rhyming over "Not For Radio" or "White Label" and shyt like that, imo, that loud noisy shyt. Nas has had great moments over the more worldly, commercial production (See IWW and Lost Tapes) but I feel like those style beats don't accentuate what he is best at, that traditional hip hop sound. Think of all his really stellar moments in terms of fire records since Illmatic (not lyrics because he is always stellar there), the majority of them shyts were that traditional/ gritty hip hop vibe shyt.

Locomotive
Made You Look
You're Da Man
If I Ruled the World
U Gotta Love It
Get Down
Nas is Like
M.O.B.
The Foulness
Last Words
Take It In Blood

Etc... that's just off the top. With his songs with that vibe he is like a 95% shooter, with the other songs with other types of sounds not so much. Nas is Shaqish, just dunk, nobody can fukk with you, you don't need to pull up from 30 because Jay-z or Big or whoever does that.

Nas could easily have seen the same amount of commercial success with that sound than he has experimenting with other sounds, imo.
I’m not necessarily disagreeing, but Nas and Kanye have made dope tracks before (Poppa Was a Playa, We Major, Still Dreaming, Let There Be Light). I had high expectations and although it’s not the classic I wanted, I still enjoyed it.
 
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Yup. These two together should’ve made something on that level. Or at the least,
Finding Forever. No surprise that Daytona was the best project of this group because it was the one with the most time and work put in. Everything after was rushed to the finish line.
I have to say that Teyana's album is damn classic. My personal favorite. I love r&b so I'm biased but the beats are incredible. It only proves the greatness of Kanye to be able to switch up genres like that.
 
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