Nas - NASIR (Discussion Thread)

[mson]

His image is of a MCs MC. Instead doing a concert none will watch on BET. He could have promoted his album by doing a live event.

Doing it on a streaming service, wouldn't get him the exposure, He clearly wanted the exposure because he let Kanye promote that album with that listening party bullshyt.

Instead promote the album with a concert streamed through YouTube. Then drop the album. Then it wouldn't matter if Jay and Bey dropped on the same day or not. He would have buzz for two different events, the album and the concert.

I'm pretty sure he will be compensated well for a performance people will be glad to see on TV or online. It's Kanye's project as well, which is why it's coming out in the first place.It still doesn't matter what Jay or Bey does. Nobody waiting six years for Nas to drop is going to decide not to buy it just because Jay came out with an album. What's the difference between doing a live concert televised on BET and posted online and a live event streamed online?

 

[TNOT]

It would establish his relevancy in an entertainment market where cable is dying.

Why not promote online and show companies the impact you can have, for future endeavors?

If this was 10 years ago it would be all for it. But again cable is dead or dying.

 

[Piff Perkins]

Also I’m not sure what it is but as one of the goats Nas receives the most criticism from some of the industry but what I’ve noticed is those people ride the jocks of Jay-Z aka Elliot Wilson, c tha god , Rosenberg and others. I’ve noticed he’s gotten a lot of love for this album too. It’s just funny how when em or jay drop wack projects i don’t hear near the criticism. Am i the only one that feels that way?

Access. Hov has played the media game pretty consistently, and has cultivated relationships with journalists and tastemakers, and even hired some (Wilson, Dream Hampton). He played the radio game back when DJs mattered as well. Nas largely avoided the press, does not offer much access, and even when he does interviews they're rarely insightful or interesting. He doesn't care, basically. He's not going to do a Breakfast Club interview, he's not gonna do an Apple Music sit-down with Zane Lowe, etc.

You see this in the way rap media treats Drake as well. Drake used to play all the radio games, he used to go on Rosenberg's show and deal with Flex and all that. The minute he reached superstar status he deaded all that shyt...and you can tell a lot of radio and media people aren't happy. Yea they won't outright crucify him, but they pop shots. Nobody was afraid to declare Pusha the winner. I guarantee you that if Drake played the game like Hov did, we wouldn't have seen so many rap personalities come out and bury him.

The other thing...this album isn't much of an event when you strip away the Kanye association and the release party. There are no big summer anthems on the album, or a Nas banger to latch onto like Made You Look or Nas Is Like. It's a very low tempo, low energy album for Nas fans. I'm not shocked it's getting mixed reviews. Rosenberg basically dismissed it as ok. On the flip side Charlamange likes it...but then Hov/B dropped and his attention shifted to that 100% (peep his IG if you don't believe me).

If Nas played their game and gave them an album they could run with, they would. But he doesn't. BTW this is the same reason they don't really champion J Cole. I don't remember Rosenberg having much to say about Cole until he signed to Interscope...

 

[Ziggiy]

Also I’m not sure what it is but as one of the goats Nas receives the most criticism from some of the industry but what I’ve noticed is those people ride the jocks of Jay-Z aka Elliot Wilson, c tha god , Rosenberg and others. I’ve noticed he’s gotten a lot of love for this album too. It’s just funny how when em or jay drop wack projects i don’t hear near the criticism. Am i the only one that feels that way?

Nas himself has said hes the most crucified artist in the game so he is well aware of his critics.

If you ask me its because for so many years Nas didn’t play the “game” and he also had no problems letting certain people known how he felt about them if he was pissed off. Remember back when Hot 97 was THE hotbed of the culture Nas shytted on both Flex and Angie in the WORST way.

He dissed straight up dismissed Angie trying to be an artist and told the world that Flex was a corny hanger on. He called Cam’ron’s album wack. He told Beanie Sigel that he needed a stern talking to and a handshake. He refused to work with Jay on Reasonable Doubt or Volume 1 while Jay was giving him props and calling him one of the best MC’s. He had friendly competition with Biggie. He straight up dissed Puff. He dissed Nore. He dissed Prodigy. He dissed 50 Cent. He posed on the cover of XXL holding a burning Source cover.

Nas wasn’t in the business to make friends lol. His only true aliances were Jungle and The Bravehearts (and sometimes Mobb Deep) he came and went as he pleased. He didn’t allow so called Hip Hop purists to dictate his sound and made bigger, commercially succesful projects, while STILL retaining a lowkey demeanor.

Nas wasn’t gonna make a yuppie nikka like Elliot Wilson feel special. He wasn’t going to give him special access or exclusive interviews or play the “game” like Jay and others did. He let the music speak for itself. Hell i remember when Hot 97 was suppsedly blacklisting Nas music and STILL was forced to play Made You Look because it was buzzing so hard.

 

[YakSpiller]

Kanye West post 2013 is terrible

At fashion
At music
At politics

Everything. He sucks.

 

[kes929]

I’m glad everyone is seeing what I’ve been seeing since the album dropped. I’ve been seeing a lot of people say they love the album, which is great too see. Me personally i can play every song all the way through with no problem. It just kills me when i read people like Rosenberg and other media personalities say negative stuff about the project when it’s not from a genuine opinion.

 

[kes929]

I’ve seen Elliott Wilson reposting negative things on Instagram about Nas album but he will sprinkle in a little positive to make it seem like he isn’t being one sided but his entire thing is to always make sure the perception is that hov is on top.

 

[Prolific_1011]

I’m glad everyone is seeing what I’ve been seeing since the album dropped. I’ve been seeing a lot of people say they love the album, which is great too see. Me personally i can play every song all the way through with no problem. It just kills me when i read people like Rosenberg and other media personalities say negative stuff about the project when it’s not from a genuine opinion.

What did Rosenberg say about it?

 

[Ziggiy]

I’ve seen Elliott Wilson reposting negative things on Instagram about Nas album but he will sprinkle in a little positive to make it seem like he isn’t being one sided but his entire thing is to always make sure the perception is that hov is on top.

Elliot Wilson is employed by Jay and Tidal. Of COURSE he gonna protect his interests

 

[Preach Jackson]

This project straight to the point. it’s refreshing to hear nas on production not sounding dated. I like the sequence from track to track. i’m still digesting the content.

 

[kes929]

What did Rosenberg say about it?

Basically said that this Nasir album is good but it’s the same reason he doesn’t think it was written is a classic. On twitter he other day he said Nas only has one classic album, he said OutKast has 5 classics and Jay-Z has 4-5?

 

[Prolific_1011]

Basically said that this Nasir album is good but it’s the same reason he doesn’t think it was written is a classic. On twitter he other day he said Nas only has one classic album, he said OutKast has 5 classics and Jay-Z has 4-5?

Smh.

I thought he was a Nas stan. I remember him saying, "Em is the biggest (sales), Jay is the greatest (accomplishments) but Nas is the best."

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Nas himself has said hes the most crucified artist in the game so he is well aware of his critics.

If you ask me its because for so many years Nas didn’t play the “game” and he also had no problems letting certain people known how he felt about them if he was pissed off. Remember back when Hot 97 was THE hotbed of the culture Nas shytted on both Flex and Angie in the WORST way.

He dissed straight up dismissed Angie trying to be an artist and told the world that Flex was a corny hanger on. He called Cam’ron’s album wack. He told Beanie Sigel that he needed a stern talking to and a handshake. He refused to work with Jay on Reasonable Doubt or Volume 1 while Jay was giving him props and calling him one of the best MC’s. He had friendly competition with Biggie. He straight up dissed Puff. He dissed Nore. He dissed Prodigy. He dissed 50 Cent. He posed on the cover of XXL holding a burning Source cover.

Nas wasn’t in the business to make friends lol. His only true aliances were Jungle and The Bravehearts (and sometimes Mobb Deep) he came and went as he pleased. He didn’t allow so called Hip Hop purists to dictate his sound and made bigger, commercially succesful projects, while STILL retaining a lowkey demeanor.

Nas wasn’t gonna make a yuppie nikka like Elliot Wilson feel special. He wasn’t going to give him special access or exclusive interviews or play the “game” like Jay and others did. He let the music speak for itself. Hell i remember when Hot 97 was suppsedly blacklisting Nas music and STILL was forced to play Made You Look because it was buzzing so hard.

100% facts

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I’ve seen Elliott Wilson reposting negative things on Instagram about Nas album but he will sprinkle in a little positive to make it seem like he isn’t being one sided but his entire thing is to always make sure the perception is that hov is on top.

elliot is worse than angie martinez with the jayz stanning

 

[PoorAndDangerous]

Nas himself has said hes the most crucified artist in the game so he is well aware of his critics.

If you ask me its because for so many years Nas didn’t play the “game” and he also had no problems letting certain people known how he felt about them if he was pissed off. Remember back when Hot 97 was THE hotbed of the culture Nas shytted on both Flex and Angie in the WORST way.

He dissed straight up dismissed Angie trying to be an artist and told the world that Flex was a corny hanger on. He called Cam’ron’s album wack. He told Beanie Sigel that he needed a stern talking to and a handshake. He refused to work with Jay on Reasonable Doubt or Volume 1 while Jay was giving him props and calling him one of the best MC’s. He had friendly competition with Biggie. He straight up dissed Puff. He dissed Nore. He dissed Prodigy. He dissed 50 Cent. He posed on the cover of XXL holding a burning Source cover.

Nas wasn’t in the business to make friends lol. His only true aliances were Jungle and The Bravehearts (and sometimes Mobb Deep) he came and went as he pleased. He didn’t allow so called Hip Hop purists to dictate his sound and made bigger, commercially succesful projects, while STILL retaining a lowkey demeanor.

Nas wasn’t gonna make a yuppie nikka like Elliot Wilson feel special. He wasn’t going to give him special access or exclusive interviews or play the “game” like Jay and others did. He let the music speak for itself. Hell i remember when Hot 97 was suppsedly blacklisting Nas music and STILL was forced to play Made You Look because it was buzzing so hard.

GOAT shyt