Nas - Magic (Discussion Thread)

[FunkDoc1112]

maybe you are just married to an old aesthetic and being a producer yourself with a preference you are critical from that end. because you are on the verge of being purist.

maybe he doesn't have to check those boxes. hit-boy was one of the first major fruity loop producers to blow even before nikkaz in paris. he didn't come from a hardware set up sampling vinly or whatever. if he checked all the boxes you want him to he wouldn't be doing updated boom bap tho he would just be doing traditional boom bap. he does his own version of shyt.

I hear the inspirations and maybe you feel that his songs fail to compare to what they emulate like the Just Blaze sounding 40-16. Even when he uses Premo's actual drums on wave gods some people say the drums are weak...

I don't think anything was wrong with the sample choices, if anything it could be his mix engineer and the mastering, that I feel could be better. he delivers on his end.

This could be true, and that's fair, but I enjoy all types of hip-hop production - it's just that Hit-Boy's beats sometimes feel, to use a better term, hollow. It's like @Piff Perkins said, certain stuff could use basslines, extra keys, a heavier kick drum, just stuff to fill the tracks out more. That's why my three favorite tracks from all these projects have been Store Run, Count Me In, and The Truth - but even The Truth is a type of beat that I think would and has been done better in other hands. Like you said, he'll emulate a certain aesthetic but miss some of the extra juice to do it completely right.

 

[ItWasWritten]

nikkas on this site HAAATE Nas. It’s hilarious. Lol

There is no other website in the world where Nas is praised as much as here

It’s a few people but this site loves Nas …

Some of you brothers convinced yourself Nasir was a instant classic

There is literally no Producer better than Hit Boy right now in Hip Hop. Not Kanye, not Alchemist, not Madlib, whoever you could name. They are not BETTER than Hit-Boy. He’s top 3 at this moment.

How can he be top 3 but no one is better than him ?


He’s not seeing Alchemist or Madlib, you telling me you wouldn’t be excited if Nas said he’s doing a album with just Alc or Lib ???
Stop it

nikkas hate Nas so much they hate Hit Boy by proxy. Lol. nikka produced one of the biggest records in Jay’s career. Now he’s trash cause he worked wit Nas. Hit Boy gonna notice how fickle people are with Nas I’m pretty sure he already got a taste of it.

Nobody called HitBoy trash, Nobody hates HitBoy..stop it

You brothers take a small amount of criticism and go completely over the edge

The most I’ve seen on here is that hitboys production is decent to good but yet they still enjoy the product as a whole ….

what’s wrong with that




What I don’t get is this…


A lot of you are praising this production as if it’s Illmatic, and it’s not .. you’re acting like Nas never rapped over a good beat before or something and it’s puzzling … is it that you’ve been so let down in the past by some of the beats given to Nas ?


HitBoy is consistent, but his best quality is he has Nas rapping like he hungry again and for that he deserves a lot of praise

But stop overating dude like he Quincy Jones

He’s like a 8/10

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

This could be true, and that's fair, but I enjoy all types of hip-hop production - it's just that Hit-Boy's beats sometimes feel, to use a better term, hollow. It's like @Piff Perkins said, certain stuff could use basslines, extra keys, a heavier kick drum, just stuff to fill the tracks out more. That's why my two favorite tracks from all these projects have been Store Run, Count Me I, and The Truth - but even The Truth is a type of beat that I think would and has been done better in other hands. Like you said, he'll emulate a certain aesthetic but miss some of the extra juice to do it completely right.

i agree about the hollow thing but it's something I hear in a lot of non sampled music in general. why I think it could be a mix or master issue was because when he did KD and Burden of Proof I thought the Benny album was mastered better then I found out Young Guru did the mix and master.

 

[iLLusoYuN_Da_Adidas_King]

hot boy is

maybe you are just married to an old aesthetic and being a producer yourself with a preference you are critical from that end. because you are on the verge of being purist.

maybe he doesn't have to check those boxes. hit-boy was one of the first major fruity loop producers to blow even before nikkaz in paris. he didn't come from a hardware set up sampling vinly or whatever. if he checked all the boxes you want him to he wouldn't be doing updated boom bap tho he would just be doing traditional boom bap. he does his own version of shyt.

I hear the inspirations and maybe you feel that his songs fail to compare to what they emulate like the Just Blaze sounding 40-16. Even when he uses Premo's actual drums on wave gods some people say the drums are weak...

I don't think anything was wrong with the sample choices, if anything it could be his mix engineer and the mastering, that I feel could be better. he delivers on his end.

40-16 is a phenomenal record.
Absolutely love that ahit I don’t know what just blaze would have done to make it bettter but I don’t had shyt is fire. To me for sure.

 

[Ty-Fife]

The posters that said this album was reminiscent of Lost Tapes hit the nail on the head. Every track feels different but doesn't lose the cohesion of the overall project. Between this and the KD series Hit-Boy did a hell of a job idk understand the critiques tbh but fukk it I'm in for whatever these 2 drop.

shyt is crazy though, this nikka Nas just started feeding us so much quality shyt over the last 3 years, 30 years into his career after starving us... son really is the golden child and Neo of this shyt

 

[H.S.]

There's nothing wrong with the way these Hit-boy projects have been mixed.

 

[LJLYDK!]

Peep this, dope reaction/review

 

[spliz]

There is no other website in the world where Nas is praised as much as here

It’s a few people but this site loves Nas …

Some of you brothers convinced yourself Nasir was a instant classic





How can he be top 3 but no one is better than him ?


He’s not seeing Alchemist or Madlib, you telling me you wouldn’t be excited if Nas said he’s doing a album with just Alc or Lib ???
Stop it


Nobody called HitBoy trash, Nobody hates HitBoy..stop it

You brothers take a small amount of criticism and go completely over the edge

The most I’ve seen on here is that hitboys production is decent to good but yet they still enjoy the product as a whole ….

what’s wrong with that




What I don’t get is this…


A lot of you are praising this production as if it’s Illmatic, and it’s not .. you’re acting like Nas never rapped over a good beat before or something and it’s puzzling … is it that you’ve been so let down in the past by some of the beats given to Nas ?


HitBoy is consistent, but his best quality is he has Nas rapping like he hungry again and for that he deserves a lot of praise

But stop overating dude like he Quincy Jones

He’s like a 8/10

nikka I ain’t seen nobody on here call Nasir a classic. This the type of shyt I don’t fukk wit when it come to u nikkas. I didn’t say everyone here hates Nas either. I said there’s nikkas on this site that hate Nas. Which is true. fukk all that other shyt u talkin bout but if u gonna quote me come correct. Respectfully.

 

[spliz]

There's nothing wrong with the way these Hit-boy projects have been mixed.

Nothing at all. His mix is clean as fukk actually.

 

[ItWasWritten]

nikka I ain’t seen nobody on here call Nasir a classic. This the type of shyt I don’t fukk wit when it come to u nikkas. I didn’t say everyone here hates Nas either. I said there’s nikkas on this site that hate Nas. Which is true. fukk all that other shyt u talkin bout but if u gonna quote me come correct. Respectfully.

Go look at that Nasir thread

Secondly I didn’t say you said everybody here hates Nas, it’s a few people but don’t act like this site isn’t The Temple of Nas

Respectfully

 

[HNIC973]

Go look at that Nasir thread

Secondly I didn’t say you said everybody here hates Nas, it’s a few people but don’t act like this site isn’t The Temple of Nas

Respectfully

a lot of nikkaz came from the Nas bbs of course it is& there is a lot dudes on here that act like Nas catalogue is like M.O.P which is disingenuous as fukk

 

[TheDarceKnight]

This could be true, and that's fair, but I enjoy all types of hip-hop production - it's just that Hit-Boy's beats sometimes feel, to use a better term, hollow. It's like @Piff Perkins said, certain stuff could use basslines, extra keys, a heavier kick drum, just stuff to fill the tracks out more. That's why my three favorite tracks from all these projects have been Store Run, Count Me In, and The Truth - but even The Truth is a type of beat that I think would and has been done better in other hands. Like you said, he'll emulate a certain aesthetic but miss some of the extra juice to do it completely right.

I agree with the bolded. But again, this is super nit-picky. I still think he's a great beatmaker and an even better producer (which I think is the better skill to have with where he is in the game.) I'm a huge Hit-Boy fan.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Peep this, dope reaction/review

she'd dope. I've seen a couple of her other videos of her listening to some Boldy James and Roc Marci stuff.

 

[We Major]

Finally got round to this

 

[ItWasWritten]

a lot of nikkaz came from the Nas bbs of course it is

Ah, didn’t know that

I understand now