Nas - Magic 2 (Discussion thread)

Slim Charles

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Super hyped for this. After having time to digest KD3, Magic still is the album i go back to the most from this run. Of the 4 albums, Nas lyrically/ bar wise was strongest on Magic to me (all 4 albums great though)

If we get more of Speechless, The Truth, 40-16 Building, Dedicated :feedme:fukk it, whole album front to back is just flames
 

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Super hyped for this. After having time to digest KD3, Magic still is the album i go back to the most from this run. Of the 4 albums, Nas lyrically/ bar wise was strongest on Magic to me (all 4 albums great though)

If we get more of Speechless, The Truth, 40-16 Building, Dedicated :feedme:fukk it, whole album front to back is just flames

Magic got the best hooks of the 4 too, was just locked in on that one
 

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Super hyped for this. After having time to digest KD3, Magic still is the album i go back to the most from this run. Of the 4 albums, Nas lyrically/ bar wise was strongest on Magic to me (all 4 albums great though)

If we get more of Speechless, The Truth, 40-16 Building, Dedicated :feedme:fukk it, whole album front to back is just flames

One of his best album closers :wow:
 

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I personally always wanted a Havoc-produced Nas album, before Preme and even Alc. Imagine how that shyt would come out if they’re both in pocket and vibing, 🥹😲. Nigs love each other, don’t know why they haven’t made it happen
Maybe they don't have the right creative chemistry
 

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How any of this proves a 4 album run with Nas would be better than Hit's is where we're fukking lost at .....
And if y'all agree Alc 4 album run won't be necessary better than Hitboy's (what it is vs what could be)
Then wtf are we talking about



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Steve Wonder can see these cats can't handle you in a debate. Not on this topic anyway....Your only misstep being the Alc white savior thing...
Where did I say this, please let me know, there’s no reason to be lost the posters that were mentioning it were saying something along the lines of although Hitboy and Nas 4 album run has been incredible they wouldn’t mind or maybe would prefer if the next release had a mixture of producers such as Alchemist...

That’s where the argument came in, with some posters trying to discredit Alchemist body of work, which I don’t see how any fan of rap music and even Nas who he has multiple quality songs with can do such a thing.

People are getting their panties in a twist over a simple suggestion or opinion that’s they wouldn’t mind Nas linking up again with one of the greatest producers in the genres history who has a credible body of working with Nas and his affiliates(Mobb Deep) hardly anyone was coming in her outright discrediting Hitboys work with Nas, some people just want something different and there’s nothing wrong with it.

I even used the comparison with Mj and Quincy and Teddy Riley which should be seen as a compliment to Hitboy to explain even though you can produce some of the greatest work of your career with one producer at times there is nothing wrong with chasing something a bit different.
 

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I'll admit I was wrong about the setlist and was going off memory but the rest of this rambling is you being unable to discern the fact that every post I'm making is an opinion. I called Hit-Boy a B+ producer - I didn't see he was a B-list producer, that was just my flippant way of saying he's pretty good but there are better guys but you seem unable to comprehend that. Your "facts" of sales are already shaky because Nas isn't selling much better than those guys to begin with and has the benefit of being a legacy artist, and then your other facts are metacritic score... a collection of OPINIONS. Not only a collection of opinions, but opinions you guys were quick to throw in the bushes when they were lukewarm on the first two KD's so weight do they really have in this argument?

And if you want me to prove i was there, here ya go. I don't like posting my picture on here because I look like a Tubi-casted Lloyd Banks but whatever:




Regardless of how much of the setlist was classics, they were what he closed the show with and got the most response from fans.


While I agree with you, to be fair there's really no music Nas could have released from 2021 onward that would match those classics, reaction wise at a concert. He's a legacy artist and most of his fans are emotionally attached to music released when they were younger, coinciding with when he made his best music: 1994-2002. That's where all his hits and most memorable tracks are. I've heard The Don ring off at a Nas concert but that's prob the most recent banger he has that would get a reaction. Just based on the videos I've seen it didn't look like most people cared for the KD stuff - not because they dislike the songs, but because they didn't come to hear that. People go to legacy concerts to hear legacy music. And before people say "but it was billed as a KD show" who cares. Concerts are usually named after a new album...doesn't mean people go there expecting to only hear new music. When I went to Jay's 4:44 Tour I went expecting to hear Hard Knock Life, 99 Problems, etc and that's what I heard. Not as many classics as I would have liked though.

A decade from now Kendrick/Drake/Cole will be in the same boat, which is kinda crazy to think about. They maybe have 1-2 more albums left in them before they become legacy acts.
 

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Regardless I’m sure this will be another great release by Nas x Hitboy.
 

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It ain't about wanting to hear Nas go back to Premo and Extra P....them dudes have been washed for years.

It's about Hitboy mid ass beats...them lame ass poor man's 9th Wonder soul loops with tinny weak drums. Poor melodies....everything midtempo.

I know some of the Nas stans on this site are fighting for their life to try and convince people he's some tier 1 great producer....but the shyt is clearly not true :mjlol:

His beats sound alright on the first couple of listens but the more you hear them you realize how hollow his production is.

Let's not pretend that Hitboy's beats are so next level and boundary pushing that people can't understand the brave new soundscapes Nas is rappin' on....they're some offbrand Roc-a-Fella era beats you'd hear on a Young Gunz album.
I liked his production on the benny tape but people hate that as well. It's weird, when he was working with yeezus he was knocking out bangers or lush sounding beats. Now it's like they are new-age west coast mellow beats, shyt you would give blxst.
 
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