Nas - King's Disease II (Discussion Thread)

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Where is the proof that they rated the OG version? I always hear this on this website but no oneś ever able to bring proof. If you read the review there is not one song that was reviewed that was not on the retail album.

@Ty-Fife posted the review a couple pages back
 

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I AM ain't better or equal to IWW it ain't a 4.5 mic Album, Now I AM the original is a 4.5 mic Album you can find it on the internet and listen to it yourself

I AM is 4 mics at best, in matter of fact go find The Source review of I AM And read the review when they was all over the sequencing and talked about his flow on Big Things and trashed like 5/6 songs:mjlol: that review didn't Match the 4.5 mic rating's. The Illmatic grace saved him again or they just flat out forgot

I´ve always liked I Am more than IWW.
 

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Why are u speaking if u didn’t read his review? The review didn’t make sense. The same way that cat who reviewed KD1 last year on Rolling Stone was trolling and now he’s not even a writer anymore cause he got called out for it. The whole internet is flaming that cat for the review it ain’t only about “stans”.

I read the review and don't care one bit. Like most album reviews it reads like a skim through write up to meet a deadline. The quality of the music and the consensus opinion matters more than an online publication with zero credibility. Having the greatest metacritic score means nothing. That's an arbitrary number.

Nah, that was not a serious narrative prior to Vlad repeating it over and over. People argued over the style of beats (boom bap vs "slick" for example) but they never said the beats were wack.

:stopitslime: The issue was selecting subpar to wack beats. It wasn't just because they weren't boom bap.

BET 2010:

During an exclusive sit down with BET.com, Nas broke down his beat selection process, which he's been heavily criticized for throughout his career.

"Well I have a wish list sometimes or I have a dream list of who I would love to work with and wish they would want to get in the studio and do records or whatever," Nas told BET.com. "Then I have my own ideas of being a producer. And what happens is a lot of time goes by with me being indecisive so it winds up with me kind of like doing what I have to do really fast because I played around for so long. Then, the deadlines come."

2010 was way before Vlad.
 

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Fanboys going too far because one man didn't like what they like with the same intensity. That shyt is corny. It's one man's opinion and it doesn't detract from your enjoyment. Just keep it moving.

Call a black man a fakkit and a c00n for not liking a Nas album:snoop:

Moreso than the review, the issue that should be discussed is the larger problem: the disconnect between the writer of the review and the subject matter. He didn't get when Nas was talking about the only islands his homies had ever seen. The writer went off on a tangent to talk about the geography of Manhattan to dispute a Nas line. He clearly missed the point. If he didn't get that line, a lot of this album, lyrically, went over his head. I can't be mad at him because the disconnect has more to do with his background and experiences vs him just being dismissive and trolling. He clearly just didn't get it. Dude is one of those Toure types where he's going to turn his nose up at street poetry and praise lyricism that is more witty and wordplay heavy.
 

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Moreso than the review, the issue that should be discussed is the larger problem: the disconnect between the writer of the review and the subject matter. He didn't get when Nas was talking about the only islands his homies had ever seen. The writer went off on a tangent to talk about the geography of Manhattan to dispute a Nas line. He clearly missed the point. If he didn't get that line, a lot of this album, lyrically, went over his head. I can't be mad at him because the disconnect has more to do with his background and experiences vs him just being dismissive and trolling. He clearly just didn't get it. Dude is one of those Toure types where he's going to turn his nose up at street poetry and praise lyricism that is more witty and wordplay heavy.

You're expecting a man who works for that publication to get it?

Pitchfork are the mountain climbers who play electric guitars. Their opinions on hip hop should never matter positive or negative. Just ignore them.
 

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I´ve always liked I Am more than IWW.
And I'm not mad at you we all have our personal albums we like more than other's, I was hyped for the album off the strength of Nas like, like everyone else we thought it was the return of Nasty Nas and when I brought the cassette on it's release day and popped it in my head phone's I was like :francis:

And I sat at the park with a beer and played it three times in a row trying and hoping something magical will happen :mjlol:

Because The Source Review of the album was still fresh in my mind and they shytted on some tracks like 6 of them and really only praise a few as standout tracks. So In my mind being a Nas fan I'm trying my damn to prove that they are wrong and this album is a Classic Nasty Nas has returned :pachaha:

So after the third time and I was still like:francis:

So I took it out my walkman put in Defari Focused Daily album:russ:

I waited for a few days to have a fresh ear, removed my high expectations for Nas album, fukk what The Source say and I start playing it again having it in constant rotation and really dive deep into it and I was like:ehh::jawalrus::obama::leon::smugbiden: you know what it's 1999 this is what a 1999 Nas Album Sounds like the production and hip hop changing and Nas is a Top selling Commerical Artist so he have to keep up with what's happening sonically in hip hop, his message still there we got Nas Like, Scarface Collab, 2pac and Biggie dedication song that healing wounds of the so called West vs East War, Life is what you make it, small world, favor for a favor, Ghetto Prisoners. Yo he done his thing:youngsabo:
 

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He deleted the whole nas shyt and review. Good
The review is still up. Personally I don’t have a problem with him having an opinion, my problem is the weight the pitchfork and the like are given on things that aren’t part of their field. It would be like XXL or The Source rating rock music with low scores and that being taken as authoritative in the industry and bringing down the collective rating that an album receives.
 

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You're expecting a man who works for that publication to get it?

Pitchfork are the mountain climbers who play electric guitars. Their opinions on hip hop should never matter positive or negative. Just ignore them.

I don't expect him to get it. Of course these publications are hiring these writers based on their degrees vs any true comprehension of the material they are writing about.

What made The Source special is that it was educated dudes who were connected with the streets writing reviews. It wasn't just some college kids writing a review.
 
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Moreso than the review, the issue that should be discussed is the larger problem: the disconnect between the writer of the review and the subject matter. He didn't get when Nas was talking about the only islands his homies had ever seen. The writer went off on a tangent to talk about the geography of Manhattan to dispute a Nas line. He clearly missed the point. If he didn't get that line, a lot of this album, lyrically, went over his head. I can't be mad at him because the disconnect has more to do with his background and experiences vs him just being dismissive and trolling. He clearly just didn't get it. Dude is one of those Toure types where he's going to turn his nose up at street poetry and praise lyricism that is more witty and wordplay heavy.


While I agree with your post the ironic thing is that Toure LOVES Nas and has defended both Nas and his beat selection several times.


Also its not worth it to be explaining to ANYONE why this guy’s review was flagrant as all hell and deserved EXACTLY the backlash it got. Anyone pretending they don’t understand under the too cool for school “bu bu but REVIEWS DON’T MATTER” bullshyt is simply lying or an idiot and not worth engaging with. A child could understand why quality Hip Hop music such as KD2 should be properly appreciated and the fact that there is such a DRAMATIC difference of opinion between, not only the so called “stans” but also other professional publications is indicative of an unfair bias against an artist which SHOULD be called out, scorned, and highlighted with all due prejudice
 
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