Nas - King's Disease II (Discussion Thread)

[Mastamimd]

All 3 of your solid albums I would put in the very good category.

Funny you mention that because I don't get the I Am being subpart narrative when it got 4.5 mics in The Source iirc...I loved that album lol, some of his best songs are on there

 

[H.S.]

@Waterproof I agree that as a Nas fan it's dope to see him to find success on the business side of things. Definitely one less thing for people to hold over him. I just don't know what that has to do with THIS album. He flossed his success more on that Khaled song with Jay than he did on KD2.

Nas has always claimed he was the best. Just because you just started believing him doesn't mean he switched up.

 

[Don'tCallMeLuckyB]

 

[ThirdAct]

2. Nas the tech bro
Nas, the Queensbridge wonderboy, is now probably whipping a Model S somewhere in Silicon Valley. His evolution into a tech bro has been pretty annoying, lecturing us with the rhetoric that the magic solution to everything is more Black CEOs and a couple of computer clicks. The storytelling, wordplay, and charm that made him one of the greats is all but gone at this point. He would rather just recap what he does after going on a 30-minute morning Peloton ride. “Silicon Valley money mixed with Henny, that’s a Fendi,” he raps on “SORRY NOT SORRY,” and later claims to be the “cryptocurrency Scarface.” I am sorry, Mr. Jones, but Al Pacino’s character would absolutely never be seen rocking a Patagonia vest and checking his Robinhood account. At the very least, all of this money should have been able to buy Nas a more accurate movie reference.
Yea pitchfork HATES Nas.

Yea pitchfork HATES Nas.

This is something that's always bothered me about how critics approach Nas and also rap in general. They don't want him to talk about his success and think he should only write about QB. They wanna see him on some "sittin bent up in the stairway" shyt forever. The crypto Scarface line was dope too, still don't get the hate for it. I guess it makes more sense if you know about how Nas invested in Coinbase early.

 

[BiggWebb79]

Can we appreciate the fact tat Nasir Jones dropped a CLASSIC 30 fukkING YEARS AFTER HIS DEBUT, let me say that again 30 fukkING YEARS!!!

My issue with the reviews is if it were Kings Disease 2 produced by Kanye West then these same publications (HHDX)would rate it higher. If Jayz rapped over these collection of beats, it would be marveled by pitchfork. What does Nas have to do to drop a universal critically acclaimed album?

They'll never let him get out of this time frame, so to them if it's not produced by them, they'll always hate on Nas even if they can't deny the music it gotta be perfect from him and Only him...

 

[Budda]

This is something that's always bothered me about how critics approach Nas and also rap in general. They don't want him to talk about his success and think he should only write about QB. They wanna see him on some "sittin bent up in the stairway" shyt forever. The crypto Scarface line was dope too, still don't get the hate for it. I guess it makes more sense if you know about how Nas invested in Coinbase early.

It’s very elitist the critique of Nas, I mean who’s this young pro black black man from Queesnbridge talking about all these fancy things...

They wanted Nas to be in Qb all his life with moderate success rapping about One Love and Memory lane... They lose all semblance of reality when it comes to him and they want him to be stuck in the box they made for him... the truth is Nas has been talking about materialism since his very first album....

He never wanted to be a backpack rapper or fit into white liberal ideals like say The Roots, this is how critics see young black males from inner city America, everything is entertainment these critics wouldn’t have mind Nas dying in 97 on some street shyt if it means they could have another Illmatic...

 

[Piff Perkins]

My thing about reviewers complaining about the tech raps…if that’s your energy, keep it when Hov drops and says the same shyt. That’s all I ask. Because you know these pubs will be falling over themselves when Hov starts talking about IPOs.

 

[Mastamimd]

This is something that's always bothered me about how critics approach Nas and also rap in general. They don't want him to talk about his success and think he should only write about QB. They wanna see him on some "sittin bent up in the stairway" shyt forever. The crypto Scarface line was dope too, still don't get the hate for it. I guess it makes more sense if you know about how Nas invested in Coinbase early.

The hilarious thing about all of these publications (Pitchfork specifically) is for all of the edgy hipster new age hip hop they like(Aes and Dave for example) they can't appreciate Nas for his growth. And if you listen to each of these albums this one is clearly superior (I've listened to multiple albums from multiple genres and can count on one hand how many sound as good as this one maybe). Aside from Madlib/Four Tet maybe it's my biases talking but rating this anything below an 8/10 seems as hating to me.

 

[Mastamimd]

My thing about reviewers complaining about the tech raps…if that’s your energy, keep it when Hov drops and says the same shyt. That’s all I ask. Because you know these pubs will be falling over themselves when Hov starts talking about IPOs.

Man I really hate mentioning Jay in these threads but you're 100 percent correct

 

[DeuceZ]

I'm in my late 30s and haven't cared about reviews or sales since like 2006 at some point all that matters is if the music is good. All that other shyt is just other shyt


I should send you lil nukkas on a store run

 

[kes929]

Funny you mention that because I don't get the I Am being subpart narrative when it got 4.5 mics in The Source iirc...I loved that album lol, some of his best songs are on there

I am is a personal classic. For some reason people dont want to give nas credit for that album which is amazing outside of like 2 songs.

 

[John Mexico]

Nah nikkas for some inexplicable reason still love Kanye. If he announced another listening concert tomorrow it would sell out

It's gotta be the hypebeast crowd and nothing older than that. 5 percent of that audience born before 1988 at most.

I'll hope the album is good as well. I don't have the most faith but that Jesus Lord track has serious, serious potential. Some of the other shyt was overly stripped back and deconstructed for me to enjoy.

 

[spliz]

Wow my nikka Mr Commodore showed MAD love right there.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

1 week later. More than few tracks feels greater!!!

so much better and healthy listening compared to part 1.

 

[Budda]

I'm in my late 30s and haven't cared about reviews or sales since like 2006 at some point all that matters is if the music is good. All that other shyt is just other shyt


I should send you lil nukkas on a store run

There has to be a bit of backlash because these reviews help spread and breed false narratives.