Nas - King's Disease II (Discussion Thread)

[Thief's Theme]

Unfortunately yep.


They couldn’t have Nas up there with Kendrick and past Kanye and Jay-Z with a universally glorified album.


He’ll top out in the high 80’s, which is still great for both Nas and the album. But this doesn’t bode well for the Rolling Stone review.

We DESPERATELY need a resurgence in BLACK Hip Hop journalism. XXL and The Source could always balance out the bullshyt but we don’t have them anymore to represent what the CULTURE really feels

absolutely

if The Source was still around, none of this Metacritic, Pitchfork, RS bullshyt would matter

 

[Tasha And]

The ending of the pitchfork review posits that celebrating longevity and success reduces the genre of rap

 

[Mike the Executioner]

I can’t hold u I’m legit tight. I almost don’t even wanna give dude the attention he wants but I also wish I could slap his glasses off his face. Why do publications allow garbage like that to continue? Can an artist block a publication from reviewing their product if they always do so in bad faith?

You? The last time I had such visceral disgust was when I heard Eminem’s verse.

I couldn't even read the review, just the parts posted. These people have no right reviewing something they don't understand. That nitpicking of individual lines, deliberately getting information wrong (if they're not fukking stupid), that modern-day sarcasm that seeps its way into every critique ("In one line, Nas says blah blah blah. Could the line be more historically false?").

fukk Pitchfork. All we need is Rolling Stone and Max from Hip Hop Isn't Dead to complete the bullshyt trifecta.

 

[Pop123]

Nah it just sucks to see bad faith reviews. shyt comes off unfair and cheap. U could tell Nas and Hitboy themselves was proud of this and spirits have been up about the positive feedback. Universal praise would’ve solidified Hitboy. The fact that the score got botched on some cornball troll shyt is trash. That review should get someone fired. It shouldn’t be this easy to fukk our artists over.

I'm talking more about the sales and how people in here and so sales crazy. Reviews are different, I feel you on that.

 

[Mastamimd]

absolutely

if The Source was still around, none of this Metacritic, Pitchfork, RS bullshyt would matter

Crossing over has a cost unfortunately...we have to appease them as well. Thing is I doubt that he's a fan of this version of hip hop given his Twitter feed...dude is a edgelord hipster that only likes shyt that sounds "different" because it's who he is basically. An unfair review because of this fact

 

[spliz]

I'm talking more about the sales and how people in here and so sales crazy. Reviews are different, I feel you on that.

Bro. I feel like artists should ban together and shyt on these cats. This shyt is ridiculous and it’s in bad faith. That type of shyt isn’t professional and it’s done on purpose. I really feel like Nas and Hitboy should start a campaign shytting on them.

 

[T.H.E.GOD]

Only island that my nikkas knew was Rikers or Staten,” he says on “40 Side,” a line that’s neither clever nor true—his native Queensbridge neighborhood is just across Roosevelt Island from an island called Manhattan.

What kind of fakkit shyt is this

this is truly why we can’t take them serious… I guess Manhattan has “island” attached to its name like riker’s and staten and most of us growing up didn’t even know Manhattan was an island with our broke ass education system… they don’t get that type of understanding so how can they get taken seriously in this culture

 

[John Mexico]

Unfortunately yep.


They couldn’t have Nas up there with Kendrick and past Kanye and Jay-Z with a universally glorified album.


He’ll top out in the high 80’s, which is still great for both Nas and the album. But this doesn’t bode well for the Rolling Stone review.

We DESPERATELY need a resurgence in BLACK Hip Hop journalism. XXL and The Source could always balance out the bullshyt but we don’t have them anymore to represent what the CULTURE really feels

Thats the thing I'm actually non-black and I havent been hesitant to say it but I been around the genre stupid close since 2003 and even at 13 I knew Nas was the one. Granted the paradigm shifts and trends shift in social justice but those same critiques are never the same across the board, and those that started listening to hip hop with MBDTF like dude in the review just don't have the credentials. But I bet they think Playboi Carti's next shyt is cute...

But hip hop has been too kind as to who it lets in. Country and Metal don't have these issues. Once it became the zeitgeist the suburbs and the suits will silence anything that'll threaten where they want the genre to go.

 

[Ziggiy]

What's worse is he's actually BLACK. But your point still stands.

He’s NOT black. Thats a tan

 

[MikeStamina]

its always the culture appropriating effeminate fakkits that do this shyt....yet for whatever reason bow down to Kendrick.

I dont get it

I'd love to see this guy approach a black woman in a club scene. That's comedy gold right there

Hey...doesn't my hair tell you I'm blackity black
Yea...but your aura...

 

[spliz]

I really wonder if artists can prevent certain publications from reviewing their work based on a history of bad faith practices.

 

[Mastamimd]

Thats the thing I'm actually non-black and I havent been hesitant to say it but I been around the genre stupid close since 2003 and even at 13 I knew Nas was the one. Granted the paradigm shifts and trends shift in social justice but those same critiques are never the same across the board, and those that started listening to hip hop with MBDTF like dude in the review just don't have the credentials. But I bet they think Playboi Carti's next shyt is cute...

But hip hop has been too kind as to who it lets in. Country and Metal don't have these issues. Once it became the zeitgeist the suburbs and the suits will silence anything that'll threaten where they want the genre to go.

Whew, you said a mouthful, especially with metal heads. People call them elitists all they want but they'll shyt on something they don't like quickly. Hip Hop is too gentrified now, we lost it a long time ago and they're going to continue to do whatever they want with it as long as it makes them money. Lil Nas X is considered a rapper to them... I have nothing against the guy as a person (he is a bit annoying but eh) but I heard his whole EP and he spit not one bar.

 

[JoelB]

mad disrespectful

 

[prophecypro]

Pitchfork at this point is just being a parody of itself in terms of how they review certain artists project and people make fun of them for it. There was a period until recent years they were okay but with recent Nas reviews they've definetly dismissed him probably cause of the allegations or whatever or because he's such a beloved posterboy to a certain era or type of fan they just wanna antagonize.

The line in the review where they counter his lyric about only seeing Rikers or Staten is some cornball out of touch shyt

 

[Pop123]

Didn't Kodak say recently that Nas is the best ever or something along them lines? Or all he wants is a Nas feature? Sumn like that. Nas aint involving himself with his lil wild ass, lol.