"Nas had the poorest work ethic for a superstar, that's why Jay z won" TK Kirkland

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I agree but not everyone’s intention is to be a huge star. Nas might like the life he has where he doesn’t have to do all the shyt Jay did, and just wants to have a more chill and easy going life. Still rich, still the highest echelon of legend. He’s just not as famous.
 
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stomachlines said:
Bull shyt

So wait a minute. Nas got a bad work ethic but dropped 4 albums in the 90's (94' to 99'), 5 in the 2000's and 1 in the 2010's (by this point, he can drop whenever he feels like it). Among guest appearances on other artists' albums.

They comparing him to Jay-Z who has a mass quantity of albums but what about the quality of those albums? U telling me all those albums Jay dropped every single year up till the 2003 were all classics? Hell no. Neither was Nas'. But to act like Jay-Z dropped nothing but classic is a fukking lie and bullshyt.

What good is that work ethic if the quality of work doesn't consistently reflect that? This ain't 2pac we talking bout. 2pac had the quantity and quality and Nas has that down better than Jay-Z. nikkas be hyping up everything Jay do every time he come out w/ some shyt, but Jay dropped a lot of half ass albums. nikkas be acting like every single 1 of them bytches is classics. lmao

nikkas who dikk ride Jay-Z in every way still mad Nas won w/ Takeover and is a better lyricist and MC than Jay-Z and can't accept that fact.

Jay got all the money in the world, the so called "hottest chick in the game" a family and basically everyone from Oprah to Obama giving him props but because he ain't got that level of praise that Nas has amongst his peers his fans still ain't satisfied with his place in Hip Hop.

Man, get the fukk outta here with this bullshyt. Jay ain't got an album that can fukk w/ Illmatic, It Was Written, Life Is Good, or Stillmatic (only 1 shytty song on this album!). Nas had the better double album w/ Street's Disciple too. SD > The Blueprint 2

Jay can be Hip Hop's greatest businessman/mogul/hustler and all of that, but when it comes to the pen and pad, rhymes, spitting, flow, lyrics, songs (frivolous mindless songs --- Jay excels at), Nas wins.
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every single one of y'all is missing the point of what he was trying to say. he wasn't saying nas had a shytty work ethic so he ain't shyt.. or he ain't great.. or one of the greatest.. or nothing like that.. he said the reason jay-z won, is because nas work ethic... straight up jay vs nas and this is not about ether or the beef


what this is all about, is Nas was the supposed to be the motherfukking KING of rap... fukk NY.. the king of it all... the next rakim.. the most sought after.. the 5 mic on his debut album nikka... the dude with all the greats standing behind him... the bidding war with everyone who was somebody... AND HE WAS OUT IN 94... he had the head start on jay by 2 years

now what happened next is both facts and opinion.. you can say jay didn't put out the best music.. you can also say nas didn't... you could say jay did.. you can say nas did.. that's all going to depend on which person you talk to

what is not up for debate, is that jay put out HITS year after year after year after year. never not once did you go 365 without new jay music... and it came with a hit record, great sales, and a new trend to follow.


somehow jay-z slid right into nas spot.. suddenly he was not only the king of ny, but the king of hip hop. others sold more, but didn't sell more, for as long. people were bigger in a given year or years, but jay would outwork you for longer.. "the reason why you lose the race, this is a marathoon.. you start off fast, but then you wheezing in the back, while i got enough leeqay to put out the reason by the mack, philadelphia freeway and i'm back"

the roc became the rap status symbol.. jay became the icon.. nas would hit you with an album every other, do great numbers, and disappear. IT WASN'T ONLY THE ALBUM THO.. what about tours? features? clothing? etc etc.



jay simply outworked nas in all aspects and his status proved it. jay is seen as the BIGGER artist together vs nas. even if you think nas is better and puts out better music. his recluse (self admitted) ways, hurt him from becoming who jay is... that was his spot
 
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The Devil's Advocate said:
every single one of y'all is missing the point of what he was trying to say. he wasn't saying nas had a shytty work ethic so he ain't shyt.. or he ain't great.. or one of the greatest.. or nothing like that.. he said the reason jay-z won, is because nas work ethic... straight up jay vs nas and this is not about ether or the beef


what this is all about, is Nas was the supposed to be the motherfukking KING of rap... fukk NY.. the king of it all... the next rakim.. the most sought after.. the 5 mic on his debut album nikka... the dude with all the greats standing behind him... the bidding war with everyone who was somebody... AND HE WAS OUT IN 94... he had the head start on jay by 2 years

now what happened next is both facts and opinion.. you can say jay didn't put out the best music.. you can also say nas didn't... you could say jay did.. you can say nas did.. that's all going to depend on which person you talk to

what is not up for debate, is that jay put out HITS year after year after year after year. never not once did you go 365 without new jay music... and it came with a hit record, great sales, and a new trend to follow.


somehow jay-z slid right into nas spot.. suddenly he was not only the king of ny, but the king of hip hop. others sold more, but didn't sell more, for as long. people were bigger in a given year or years, but jay would outwork you for longer.. "the reason why you lose the race, this is a marathoon.. you start off fast, but then you wheezing in the back, while i got enough leeqay to put out the reason by the mack, philadelphia freeway and i'm back"

the roc became the rap status symbol.. jay became the icon.. nas would hit you with an album every other, do great numbers, and disappear. IT WASN'T ONLY THE ALBUM THO.. what about tours? features? clothing? etc etc.



jay simply outworked nas in all aspects and his status proved it. jay is seen as the BIGGER artist together vs nas. even if you think nas is better and puts out better music. his recluse (self admitted) ways, hurt him from becoming who jay is... that was his spot
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All due respect, I ain't miss shyt. I listened to that interview. I ain't miss no point he was TRYING to make.
 
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ignorethis said:
Nas missing out on being on Reasonable Doubt to smoke weed in the projects :ahh:

Lol Nas my GOAT, but I don't know why people are acting offended, everybody that's been around Nas describes him as a laid back, kinda lazy savant.
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Or just maybe Nas made the choice he didn't want to be apart of RD. I bet you never thought of that being the reason:mjlol:. I'm around Nas and he is far from lazy. He is a thinker and he makes sure that whatever he attaches his name to makes sense to him. Nas is involved in many things that the public has no knowledge about and he doesn't feel the need to make PR statements about his every move or potential business venture. People can think what they want it won't stop Nas from doing whatever he wants/when he wants.:yeshrug:
 
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King Brim said:
I think everybody mostly means branding. Jay-z and snoop created brand past music and are known worldwide for many things. Nas.... up until recently doesn't seem to be in the spotlight that much. That's not a bad thing, but he only released like what? One album this decade? Not really on the music scene like that. Has expanded musically outside of hip hop like everybody else. I know he got henny and a company but I think people want to see more from him. You see jay-z damn near everywhere, he was rumored to perform at even the superbowl(which he won't but still) and you can catch snoop doing some of everything too.
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Snoop's brand hasn't been that credible in recent years cause of it. There is a thing as over saturation too
 
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thing is... Brehs out here starving. The GOAT must feed em', it aint no diss

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stomachlines said:
Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer went platinum too, you gon tell me their albums was classic too?

Sorry buddy. Nope!
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What's considered a "classic" album is based on ones personal opinion or assessment. The fact that Jay Z has 14 Platinum Studio Albums (Every Jay Z Studio Album he has released has went Platinum) isn't.

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The last commercial album Nas released (Life is Good) didn't even go gold. :mjlol:


stomachlines said:
There's nothing wrong with sitting down and taking time out to write your rhymes down. The pride in taking your time to write down your rhymes has been loss because a lot of nikkas have wanted to follow Jay's path with it. It's cool and nice that Jay can do that but there's nothing wrong with writing down your rhymes. I wish a lot more nikkas would do it; they'd probably be a lot better at making songs instead of trying to come off so "cool".
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I totally agree! Not everyone can be a gifted rapper & musical genius like Jay Z. :obama:

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stomachlines said:
Jay has not and never will be on Nas' level lyrically. Nas runs laps around him. Nas is a better lyricist and MC.
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You're entitled to your point of view.................................even if you're wrong! :yeshrug:


stomachlines said:
You know what, whatever you say, bruh. Some nikkas get, some don't. fukk it.
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Let me help you out & put you up on game fam so that there's no confusion in the future.

Nas = Iconic Legend

Jay Z = G.O.A.T

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