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Madara wasn't even as powerful now as he was when he battled the 1st so he's wrong when he saying only the 1st can beat him. This mothafukka was dropping meteors for crying out loud. And I ain't seen nowhere in the manga or anime where he used Susan-no to battle the first. Plus lets not forget that he has 1st Hokage cells and shyt, creating wood clones. First ain't fukking with Madara. First couldn't even fukk with the Third Hokage.

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Hiruzen was one of the most powerful shinobi in history. In fact, he was so powerful that he was admired as the God of Shinobi (忍の神, Shinobi no Kami) in his prime and was said to be the strongest Hokage that Konoha ever had. Even in his old age, he also said to be the strongest of all the five Kage at the time of his death.[8][9] Enma commented on his battle with Orochimaru, saying that it was "miserable" compared to his prime, even though he had clearly been able to hold his own against Orochimaru and two former Hokage without losing his composure. Even in his old age, his chakra was noted for being very strong, causing a dense effect on the atmosphere when released;[10] furthermore, he was known for having immense reserves of chakra in his youth.[11] He was also the longest living and longest reigning Hokage. Hiruzen also had keen senses, being able to track down the former Hokage under Hashirama Senju's Bringer-of-Darkness Technique.[12]
Hiruzen Sarutobi - Narutopedia, the Naruto Encyclopedia Wiki

There's a reason he hasn't been brought back from the dead. If the author somehow made it so that he came back, he would absolutely shyt on everyone.

First thing I thought when I saw that Madara was able to cheat death is that he's going to have to fight Sasuke. Madara will probably merc all of these kage and then run into Sasuke. Sasuke has a real shot at actually fighting toe to toe with Madara because we still don't know what that scroll that suigetsu found was. We have to see Naruto fighting Tobi while Sasuke is fighting Madara. Both of them right now aren't really feeling shook by their opponents.

I really want to know what the hell is making Naruto so confident. He's talking shyt to Tobi right now like he's waiting for the right moment to just finish him off, yet every time they cut back to him he's all bloodied up. Chances are his set will show up to back him up before we see what kind of power he really has though.
 

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Hiruzen Sarutobi - Narutopedia, the Naruto Encyclopedia Wiki

There's a reason he hasn't been brought back from the dead. If he came back he would absolutely shyt on everyone.

First thing I thought when I saw that Madara was able to cheat death is that he's going to have to fight Sasuke. Madara will probably merc all of these kage and then run into Sasuke. Sasuke has a real shot at actually fighting toe to toe with Madara because we still don't know what that scroll that suigetsu found was.

I really want to know what the hell is making Naruto so confident. He's talking shyt to Tobi right now like he's waiting for the right moment to just finish him off. But chances are his set will show up to back him up before we see what kind of power he really has.

The reason he hasnt been brought back is because he cant be. You cant come back from the Death God technique.

The 1st is said to be so powerful that most people dont even consider him real, just a fairy tale.
 

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The reason he hasnt been brought back is because he cant be. You cant come back from the Death God technique.

The 1st is said to be so powerful that most people dont even consider him real, just a fairy tale.

The first is real, people know about him. You're thinking about the sage of the six paths. His power is just so far ahead everyone that it seems impossible for such a person to have ever existed.

I'm really hoping that Naruto somehow connects with the actual sage. I'm willing to bet that he will though because the 9 tails had a flashback where the sage told them that he and them will be together again while he was looking at Naruto. We also know that Naruto has a chakra shroud that makes him look like the sage. Either he's going to meet up with him/has already met with him(which is whats making him so confident)/can summon him up somehow.
 

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The first is real, people know about him. You're thinking about the sage of the six paths. His power is just so far ahead everyone that it seems impossible for such a person to have ever existed.

I'm really hoping that Naruto somehow connects with the actual sage. I'm willing to bet that he will though because the 9 tails had a flashback where the sage told them that he and them will be together again while he was looking at Naruto. We also know that Naruto has a chakra shroud that makes him look like the sage. Either he's going to meet up with him/has already met with him(which is whats making him so confident)/can summon him up somehow.

I'm pretty sure Naruto is the reincarnation of the Sage..
 

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The first is real, people know about him. You're thinking about the sage of the six paths. His power is just so far ahead everyone that it seems impossible for such a person to have ever existed.

I'm really hoping that Naruto somehow connects with the actual sage. I'm willing to bet that he will though because the 9 tails had a flashback where the sage told them that he and them will be together again while he was looking at Naruto. We also know that Naruto has a chakra shroud that makes him look like the sage. Either he's going to meet up with him/has already met with him(which is whats making him so confident)/can summon him up somehow.

No, im talking about the 1st. That statement of being a fairy tale was said in one of the chapters this year.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c575/3.html
 

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Nah, Ya'll nikkas got this shyt twisted.

1st>Madara>4th>3rd>2nd=5th. Saying Sarutobi>The 1st is like saying Jiraiya>Itachi. Remember how that went back at the other site? It's really laughable now that you think about it.
 

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Nah, Ya'll nikkas got this shyt twisted.

1st>Madara>4th>3rd>2nd=5th. Saying Sarutobi>The 1st is like saying Jiraiya>Itachi. Remember how that went back at the other site? It's really laughable now that you think about it.

Exactly. If Madara is speaking truth about the 1st then he was taking it easy on Sarutobi. Madara is taking out mountains right now meanwhile all the 1st did against Sarutobi was grow a forest on top of a building. He was holding back or being held back by Oro a ridiculous amount during his edo tensei.....it also makes me wonder why he didn't flip the tensei on Oro like Madara did Kabuto.
 

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Nah, Ya'll nikkas got this shyt twisted.

1st>Madara>4th>3rd>2nd=5th. Saying Sarutobi>The 1st is like saying Jiraiya>Itachi. Remember how that went back at the other site? It's really laughable now that you think about it.

Whats laughable is Kishi has already stated his unhealthy fascination with the sharingan/Uchiha and Itachi nuthuggers constantly gloss over that fact. Dude is incredibly biased toward the Sharingan which is why we constantly see new jutsu for the shyt. Not to mention MS is the biggest cheatcode in all of manga for fukks sake.

And its still Jiraiya>>>>>>>Itachi all day. :stopitslime:
 

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Whats laughable is Kishi has already stated his unhealthy fascination with the sharingan/Uchiha and Itachi nuthuggers constantly gloss over that fact. Dude is incredibly biased toward the Sharingan which is why we constantly see new jutsu for the shyt. Not to mention MS is the biggest cheatcode in all of manga for fukks sake.

And its still Jiraiya>>>>>>>Itachi all day. :stopitslime:

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When Itachi came into the village the first time with Kisame they specifically wanted to avoid Jiraiya. Itachi said something like "even if we managed to exhaust him he'd take us down with him" Jiraiya was pretty damn strong.

No, im talking about the 1st. That statement of being a fairy tale was said in one of the chapters this year.

Naruto 575 - Read Naruto Chapter 575 Online - Page 3

My bad, guess I forgot about that, but we still don't know just how strong the 3rd in his prime is other than the fact that people acknowledge him as the GOAT except for Madara.

and the reason we didn't see the 1st's full power when we he was fighting the 3rd with his bro is because the 3rd knew that he had to seal them away as soon as possible before they went apeshyt on him. An old man wouldn't be able to handle that kind of stress. Orochimaru had full control of their minds so we can't say something like "they were going easy on him". You have to respect the gawd of shinobi for fighting 2 former hokages AND a former student that is almost kage level at the same time while being old as dirt.
 
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