Jiraiya is at least equal to Itachi, if not a bit stronger.
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aXiom
Maximized Potential
Whats laughable is Kishi has already stated his unhealthy fascination with the sharingan/Uchiha and Itachi nuthuggers constantly gloss over that fact. Dude is incredibly biased toward the Sharingan which is why we constantly see new jutsu for the shyt. Not to mention MS is the biggest cheatcode in all of manga for fukks sake.
And its still Jiraiya>>>>>>>Itachi all day.
Let's see J-man, a nikka only managed to kill one pein body, take on a fully powered Nagato and ask him what are his last words before sending him to hell, all while simultaneously saving J-man's successor and the 2nd most powerful tailed beast in the same fight.
First of all, Jiraiya killed 4 Pain bodies, and would have killed all six of them if he had knowledge. That's more than we can say of bytchtachi.
Secondly, that was Edo Itachi. An immortal version, with unlimited stamina. Also he had help against Nagato.
Thirdly, Pain>Nagato.
Secondly, that was Edo Itachi. An immortal version, with unlimited stamina. Also he had help against Nagato.
Thirdly, Pain>Nagato.
aXiom
Maximized Potential
How does that disprove my statement? Yes, Nagato's Rinnegan jutsu are faster and stronger. However that doesn't mean much because 99,9% of the ninja can't do shyt against Pain's jutsu anyway. And those that can, like Madara, can also resist Nagato's.
However Nagato lacks mobility(which is what did him in, he couldn't dodge Itachi's Totskuka sword), lacks the almost perfect defense Pain had because of shared vision. Nevermind the fact that Nagato is just one guy. If you kill a Pain body he can be revived, no big deal. If you kill Nagato that's it. Itachi couldn't have done shyt against Pain.
Nagato also lacks the surprise element Pain has. It's what fukked up Jiraiya. Pain can keep a number of bodies out of sight and when his opponent thinks the fight is over and lets his guard down, BAM.
Overall the increase in offensive power Nagato recieves isn't worth the trade-offs. Pain>Nagato.
aXiom
Maximized Potential
So we gon act like everything this nikka summoned didn't have the Rinnegan? We gon act like despite having 6 bodies, he wasn't bodied by Naruto? You kill Naraka path, how the fukk is he gonna revive the other bodies? Why you think during the Naruto fight, he kept that body protected at all costs? You think any of those bodies can survive Amaterasu? See, y'all nikkas still stuck with the mindset that pein was unfukkwithable.
Scustin Bieburr
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You're wrong for this one son. Nagato is basically the sage of the six paths when he's got his chakra up and he isn't
What is to stop Nagato from absorbing any techniques used against him? whats to stop him from using shadow clones? A shadow clone is actually VERY dangerous if there is a lot of chakra in it. It wont disappear with one hit like Naruto's clones used to do. shyt, whats to stop him from just making himself intangible with a technique like Izanagi? The same reason he was able to be murked so quickly is the same reason why the 1st and second got taken down quickly by the 3rd, because their opponents knew that as soon as they got used to being alive again they would put in some serious work and crush mountains.
I may be wrong but I don't think he had more than one or two summons out at the same time. But it's not just that. The Pain bodies were able to defend with perfect coordonation. fukk is a giant bird gonna do against a fast opponent?
We're gonna act like Naruto didn't need the Kyuubi going 8 tails? We're gonna act like Deva Pain didn't need his recharge period and was out at the beginning of the fight? We're gonna act like Naruto didn't have help and info on the bodies? We're gonna act like Pain wasn't fighting all day long and used a move that required a huge amount of chakra?
First you're going to have to kill him. Nevermind that you need info on him and all the other bodies in the first place.
Did Nagato survive Amaterasu? If I remember correctly he used Shinra Tensei but he was still fukked up and needed Edo regeneration.
Breh Rikudou created the goddamned moon and the bijuu. Madara is the closest thing we have to Rikudou right now and he's still nowhere near as strong. Nagato wasn't a pimple on Rikudou's ass.You're wrong for this one son. Nagato is basically the sage of the six paths when he's got his chakra up and he isn't
Some techniques can't be absorbed. Can Itachi's Totsuka sword be absorbed. Can Hiraishin be absorbed? Can genjutsu be absorbed? Can Kamui be absorbed? Pain has a greater chance against those things than Nagato has.
Nothing, but his shadow clones suffer from the same lack of mobility he does.
Doesn't the Sharingan have Izanagi though? And even if he could/knew about it, shouldn't Pain also be able to use it? Which again he would be better at because he has 12 eyes to sacrifice instead of 2.
DuncanWebayama
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Quick question, yall think the naruto series can move forward after this war and madara is done with? Because we are only seeing a glimpse of what naruto n them are capable of. Mind you they are still in their.teens.
The author doesnt want to spend his entire life writing Naruto so its going to end after this war.
The entire story has been leading up to this point. Im not trying to read another 10 years of this shyt.
you think the bosses going this let that nikka kishi stop making naruto
Nah, Kishi already said we're getting close to the end.
Kishimoto: Naruto Manga Is 'Rising Towards Its Climax' - News - Anime News Network
Besides, who would be left to fight after the war is over? Once Tobi and Madara are beaten, that's it for Akatsuki. Nobody else for Uzi to fight after that, other than his rematch with Sasuke.
If I was to guess I'd say the manga will probably end sometime next year.
Sonny Creems
Superstar
Im a firm believer that the Jyuubi will be revived. I dont see Madara and Tobi not confronting each other before the end of the manga considering the mask and the Gedo Mazo statue (Jyuubi body???), and theres a reason Kishi had Kakashi copy the jutsu Chiyo used to revive Gaara
He Who Posts Well
Superstar
Can't wait for tommorow's fcukery 