Napoleon's Thoughts on Bernie Sanders

[xoxodede]

You asked for "environmental racism" I gave you that exact phrase explicitly used in the platform itself.

I'm incredibly familiar (as you know) with issues that affect my community.
So if he's pushing policy that will have a significant macro- and micro- effect; I'm going to support him, that doesn't mean I have to be a fan of the guy, or also not want a greater focus on the effects of late-capitalism and neoliberalism on the AA community here in the US.

I respect and value your opinion - but I am about specifics these days. Long gone is my support for someone who is not explicit in their support. Because, time has shown me just because something is listed and stated for all -- my community is the one that it doesn't trickled down into. And my community is the one that is in dire need and being attacked/dealing with it the most.

So, until that is done -- by a candidate I can not lend my support.

I also could never support a blatant racist. You may not feel like he is -- but it's clear to me.

 

[Genos]

I have thought about it. But, I know about the "how much" game -- and how others like to play it. You are asking a non-scholar, a non-economist, a non-lawyer, a non-ADOS historian, etc - to present you a plan.

That in itself is dismissive and showing. Who else do people do this too -- only Black Americans -- and what's funny even people who do this know it's crazy to ask. But, it's a tactic to shut us up -- or make us look informed.

Well, hell --- it's things that went on and happened to our people (before and after Emancipation) -- we don't even know about -- so what I look like giving out a number - when I don't even know the full scope yet.

I want a multi-generational plan -- I also want to go after each and every corporation and institution who profited and are still profiting off our ancestors enslavement -- and Post Emancipation, Jim Crow experience --in every sector of life. EVERY ONE.

Yeah, I can't convince you to care about Black Americans and our very serious issues -- to which you and Bernie haven't addressed.

I challenge you to read more about ADOS history.

Breh I'm not asking for you to come up with a plan, I'm asking for you to present one, the one you agree with the most. But there is no plan, you just typed a bunch of stuff out about a magical multigenrational plan that does not exist. You cant even point out a plan that proposes the things you want. This is my problem with reparations at the moment there is only a word, no plan. While on the other hand medicare for all will help black families and younger black singles a ton with taking a bill off the table and not locking blacks into CAC controlled jobs because they offer good healthcare. Free public college will help poorer blacks be able to get an education without taking a huge financial risk. There will be much less "I'm the only one in my family to go to college" as litterally any nikka who wants to go to college can, not people willing to take a huge gamble.


Now there are 2 policies I agree with, I can post you the links if you want to read more about them in detail. Now this is not exclusively for black people like you want but it will help much more than saying the word reparations over and over.

 

[I Really Mean It]

Why didn't you include comments about George Wallace being "like Hitler," or his fear of the US moving toward genocide, or his visit to a Wallace rally being like a Nazi rally? @śïñe•qúå_nøn

because that’s not relevant to the thread.

 

[xoxodede]

Breh I'm not asking for you to come up with a plan, I'm asking for you to present one, the one you agree with the most. But there is no plan, you just typed a bunch of stuff out about a magical multigenrational plan that does not exist. You cant even point out a plan that proposes the things you want. This is my problem with reparations at the moment there is only a word, no plan. While on the other hand medicare for all will help black families and younger black singles a ton with taking a bill off the table and not locking blacks into CAC controlled jobs because they offer good healthcare. Free public college will help poorer blacks be able to get an education without taking a huge financial risk. There will be much less "I'm the only one in my family to go to college" as litterally any nikka who wants to go to college can, not people willing to take a huge gamble.


Now there are 2 policies I agree with, I can post you the links if you want to read more about them in detail. Now this is not exclusively for black people like you want but it will help much more than saying the word reparations over and over.

Is asking me to "present one" not the same thing? LOL. And I gave you the reasons why I couldn't -- and I shouldn't be asked too. I'm not Sandy Darity nor the Commission for H.R. 40.

I"m a Brehette

I am all for free college -- but if a college degree for everyone is presented -- do you really think that would help Black Americans - who are already discriminated against WITH degrees.

Again, you need to understand the history of this country and what's happening now to Black Americans specifically. But, you like others want to ignore it -- and act like it's not a issue -- or it can be solved with race-less - non-specific policies and they can't.

 

[King Sun]

Just dropped 27 more dollars. Thanks nap

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Why didn't you include comments about George Wallace being "like Hitler," or his fear of the US moving toward genocide, or his visit to a Wallace rally being like a Nazi rally? @śïñe•qúå_nøn

 

[Genos]

Is asking me to "present one" not the same thing? LOL. And I gave you the reasons why I couldn't -- and I shouldn't be asked too. I'm not Sandy Darity nor the Commission for H.R. 40.

I"m a Brehette

I am all for free college -- but if a college degree for everyone is presented -- do you really think that would help Black Americans - who are already discriminated against WITH degrees.

Again, you need to understand the history of this country and what's happening now to Black Americans specifically. But, you like others want to ignore it -- and act like it's not a issue -- or it can be solved with race-less - non-specific policies and they can't.

Present one that someone already wrote that you agree with I explained that. The fact that you keep avoiding this makes me think you have not actually read a reparations plan that you agree with. Which is fine but dont get mad at Bernie for not having reparations in his plan when you dont even have an idea what that would entail outside of "getting a check."


And lol you realize you are talking about job prospects of getting a degree and not the part about actually getting an education which can help create a product or business. Let alone help you with other general life shyt

 

[CarmelBarbie]

I have already decided to make Bernie the next president.

Just looked at your name lol.

 

[xoxodede]

Present one that someone already wrote that you agree with I explained that. The fact that you keep avoiding this makes me think you have not actually read a reparations plan that you agree with. Which is fine but dont get mad at Bernie for not having reparations in his plan when you dont even have an idea what that would entail outside of "getting a check."


And lol you realize you are talking about job prospects of getting a degree and not the part about actually getting an education which can help create a product or business. Let alone help you with other general life shyt

No, I'm not avoiding. I have addressed it over and over again. There isn't one that has been drawn up or proposed yet. I stated that it's things that have been done that I am not even aware of - and that I will leave that to the experts and the commission.

Again, whatever plan that is presented is a multi-generational one - that is multi-faceted - which means in addition to money.

You have never seen me advocate "getting a check." So, try that with someone else.

No, I know an Undergrad degree is a requirement and not even the basic these days -- but I also understand that a college degree doesn't not equal a job or a opportunity for a good one that can support ones and their family.

As I have said -- Black college graduates are the NUMBER ONE UNEMPLOYED citizens -- so us getting more doesn't equal jobs. Creating a job, service or product - requires capital, collateral, investment and more. All which can be helped by reparations.

I can see that you do not care to address those specific issues.

 

[Micky Mikey]

Apology accepted. I apologize as well, if I came off rude.

I don't care about what Whites or the country will do. I am not going to stop speaking our for and demanding reparations. I am not going to drop the issue as my number one either.

And I pray more of my people place it in their top three -- if not the top spot for them as well.

I don't care if it's political suicide. What type of integrity or self-love would I have if have to down myself and needs by allowing myself to vote for someone who wouldn't stand up for what's right and due -- cause it's "political suicide."

Do I matter?! Do my people matter? Must we mule and be the background for others? NO. Not anymore.

The Green Deal does not go after the massive pollution and toxic living situations for Black communities. Again, I haven't seen ONE speech or tweet or time given to those in Anniston Alabama: Toxic Secret

Or in any of the heavily toxic environments that affect our people. Why should we give any time to anyone who haven't show any care or support?

Quick question - who is the last person you voted for ? Did they make reparations apart of their platform?

Unless you intend on us succeeding from the United States we will always have to keep the intentions of the masses in mind. Its just a byproduct of living in a democracy. And no one is saying we should stop fighting for reparations. I believe the government has a moral obligation to heal the wounds of slavery and all the suffering our people have endured since.

As for the Green New Deal. environmental justice should be addressed. And it is addressed to some extent in the GND. The larger issue at hand is putting an end to our fossil fuel use so that we can the space to address environmental racism. This is the most important issue here. If we dont shift our economy off fossil fuels ASAP we probably wont have much of a future to address any of the issues your so passionate here. And what other candidate is proposing such a radical shift other than Bernie???

Its just a matter of perspectice. I admire your dedication but sometime we must also expand our circle of concern.

 

[xoxodede]

Quick question - who is the last person you voted for ? Did they make reparations apart of their platform?

Unless you intend on us succeeding from the United States we will always have to keep the intentions of the masses in mind. Its just a byproduct of living in a democracy. And no one is saying we should stop fighting for reparations. I believe the government has a moral obligation to heal the wounds of slavery and all the suffering our people have endured since.

As for the Green New Deal. environmental justice should be addressed. And it is addressed to some extent in the GND. The larger issue at hand is putting an end to our fossil fuel use so that we can the space to address environmental racism. This is the most important issue here. If we dont shift our economy off fossil fuels ASAP we probably wont have much of a future to address any of the issues your so passionate here. And what other candidate is proposing such a radical shift other than Bernie???

Its just a matter of perspectice. I admire your dedication but sometime we must also expand our circle of concern.

Hillary. And before that Barack both times.

And no one has spoken for reparations. But, I used to intern three summers for John Conyers during Undergrad. Before, I changed from Pre-Law. So, reparations and advocating for it -- it not new to me..

I also was much younger then, I was also not as educated on ADOS history or my ancestors story back then. But, I am now. And I understand it's importance.

Fossil Fuel is graet - but it's issues RIGHT NOW that are dire to life expectancy that should be addressed and be a priority.

 

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Backhanded compliment at the most. Media been searching for any and everything to smear Bernie since 2016.

 

[Ya' Cousin Cleon]

wait till people ITT find out about why black folk voted for wallace during his tenure as governor

Backhanded compliment at the most. Media been searching for any and everything to smear Bernie since 2016.

 

[Micky Mikey]

Hillary. And before that Barack both times.

And no one has spoken for reparations. But, I used to intern three summers for John Conyers during Undergrad. Before, I changed from Pre-Law. So, reparations and advocating for it -- it not new to me..

I also was much younger then, I was also not as educated on ADOS history or my ancestors story back then. But, I am now. And I understand it's importance.

So you had no problem voting for them even when neither of them had reparations on their platform. And Hilary has said and done far worse to the black community and black people than Bernie ever has. But you did say you were young back then so i get it.

Fossil Fuel is graet - but it's issues RIGHT NOW that are dire to life expectancy that should be addressed and be a priority.

With all due respect us getting off Fossil Fuels as a whole is DIRE. If we dont make the transition now we're pretty much fukked not as blacks, not as Americans, but as A SPECIES.

Again we need context here. We need to expand our circle of concern.

 

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Still a few years later after his comment. But, the video states 1986.

It's this supposed to be proof that Sanders was riding for Wallace and is a racist?