Napoleon's Thoughts on Bernie Sanders

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wait till people ITT find out about why black folk voted for wallace during his tenure as governor

Sadly... Racial Fear, Intimidation and use of the Black Church.

Black preachers wield strong political influence in Alabama, and the feeling among insiders was that Mr. Wallace had circumvented black political leaders and reached into the pulpits for support in rural areas. There his name, with virtually 100 percent voter recognition, and his apologies for past racist actions meant more than his history. Question of Swing Votes
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Arrington recalls that he was puzzled by black officeholders who endorsed George Wallace, possibly in the presidential election of 1972. He rejects the idea that Wallace, at the time governor of Alabama, had left behind his racist political ideology. He also says that the media exaggerated Wallace's black support. Arrington himself, however, would support a Democratic presidential ticket with Wallace as vice president.

https://docsouth.unc.edu/sohp/A-0001/excerpts/excerpt_1080.html


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/01/...r-decades-later-its-force-remains-potent.html

https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-george-wallace-harnessed-hate
 

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I didn't say he was adored, I said that black folk voted for him.

Sadly... Racial Fear, Intimidation and use of the Black Church.

Black preachers wield strong political influence in Alabama, and the feeling among insiders was that Mr. Wallace had circumvented black political leaders and reached into the pulpits for support in rural areas. There his name, with virtually 100 percent voter recognition, and his apologies for past racist actions meant more than his history. Question of Swing Votes
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Arrington recalls that he was puzzled by black officeholders who endorsed George Wallace, possibly in the presidential election of 1972. He rejects the idea that Wallace, at the time governor of Alabama, had left behind his racist political ideology. He also says that the media exaggerated Wallace's black support. Arrington himself, however, would support a Democratic presidential ticket with Wallace as vice president.

https://docsouth.unc.edu/sohp/A-0001/excerpts/excerpt_1080.html


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/01/...r-decades-later-its-force-remains-potent.html

https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-george-wallace-harnessed-hate
 

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I had no problem -- because I was an uninformed person. I don't understand why you are trying to act like I don't give very detailed reasons for my responses. I do -- and I did.

I was younger, uninformed and I didn't understand or know the dire situation Black Americans are in. Nor, was I that educated on the history of ADOS as I have become in the last 4-6 years.

So, as a grown ass woman -- it's a top issue for me. And correct, now that we know what we know about Hillary -- and I am just not listening and believing what people say anymore - without vetting and dedicating time to learn more about candidates past CNN or news sources. I don't like her racist ass either.

Again, I understand Fossil Fuels - but these are people living now -- and dying NOW. Their children are getting sick NOW and dying NOW.





 
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I respect and value your opinion - but I am about specifics these days. Long gone is my support for someone who is not explicit in their support. Because, time has shown me just because something is listed and stated for all -- my community is the one that it doesn't trickled down into. And my community is the one that is in dire need and being attacked/dealing with it the most.

So, until that is done -- by a candidate I can not lend my support.

I also could never support a blatant racist. You may not feel like he is -- but it's clear to me.
I'm not lending my support to him, I'm lending my support to his platform: his platform will bring positive change to my community, which is rare from a federal level.

I'm pushing for the same change locally. We differ on how we see the methods; but I'm not willing to compromise on the substance, even if I'm not as big a fan of the vehicle.

Pushing for Morgan Harper in Ohio as well.
 

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I'm not lending my support to him, I'm lending my support to his platform: his platform will bring positive change to my community, which is rare from a federal level.

I'm pushing for the same change locally. We differ on how we see the methods; but I'm not willing to compromise on the substance, even if I'm not as big a fan of the vehicle.

Pushing for Morgan Harper in Ohio as well.

I understand. And I wish you well as always!
 

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No, I'm not avoiding. I have addressed it over and over again. There isn't one that has been drawn up or proposed yet. I stated that it's things that have been done that I am not even aware of - and that I will leave that to the experts and the commission.

Again, whatever plan that is presented is a multi-generational one - that is multi-faceted - which means in addition to money.

You have never seen me advocate "getting a check." So, try that with someone else. :smile:

No, I know an Undergrad degree is a requirement and not even the basic these days -- but I also understand that a college degree doesn't not equal a job or a opportunity for a good one that can support ones and their family.

As I have said -- Black college graduates are the NUMBER ONE UNEMPLOYED citizens -- so us getting more doesn't equal jobs. Creating a job, service or product - requires capital, collateral, investment and more. All which can be helped by reparations. :smile:

I can see that you do not care to address those specific issues.
Ahhh there we go, you want Sanders to endorse a plan that does not exist. You just want him to say he endorses reparations even if that does not mean anything. Well if you want a candidate with actual plans that exist in the real world then Bernie has some good plans that will help the black community. I explained 2 earlier
 

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Ahhh there we go, you want Sanders to endorse a plan that does not exist. You just want him to say he endorses reparations even if that does not mean anything. Well if you want a candidate with actual plans that exist in the real world then Bernie has some good plans that will help the black community. I explained 2 earlier

Ahhhh.NAH.

I want him to state that if he is elected President - he would support reparations and work with a commission to create a Plan and fight to get it approved.

Isn't that what he does... create plans? So, you want Black Americans to create a plan too? LOL. That is why a Commission H.R. 40 study is proposed -- to come up with a plan!
 
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Can’t wait til this decrepit racist fart loses again and his Bernie butt bros get lost
 
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Present one that someone already wrote that you agree with I explained that. The fact that you keep avoiding this makes me think you have not actually read a reparations plan that you agree with. Which is fine but dont get mad at Bernie for not having reparations in his plan when you dont even have an idea what that would entail outside of "getting a check."


And lol you realize you are talking about job prospects of getting a degree and not the part about actually getting an education which can help create a product or business. Let alone help you with other general life shyt
What’s wrong with getting a check?:unimpressed:
 

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Ahhhh.NAH.

I want him to state that if he is elected President - he would support reparations and work with a commission to create a Plan and fight to get it approved.

Isn't that what he does... create plans? So, you want Black Americans to create a plan too? LOL.
So you want Bernie who gets asked "how are you going to pay for it" on every thing and he supports to support something extremely controversial and will lose tons of support and you want him to say I will figure out how to pay for it later when asked? Let's just say that would not work politically.


The presidents cabinet makes plans. They have teams that work out the specifics. Medicare for all, free college, an infrastructure bill, a jobs program would help blacks a lot more than saying reparations. I know you feel the point of college is to get a job immediately but it helps in other ways. For example I assume you are black, and if you are a brethette then you know black women have a tougher time getting an accurate diagnosis. Now do you think if college was free you could have more black women doctors? Now becoming a doctor wont be a gamble worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. Yeah they may not be EMPLOYED by some cac but enough black people (not just young adults), who know how to start business and have those contacts due to higher education now can start a hospital. A federal jobs and infrastructure program, could help give local contracts for building the hospital and roads going to it.
 

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So you want Bernie who gets asked "how are you going to pay for it" on every thing and he supports to support something extremely controversial and will lose tons of support and you want him to say I will figure out how to pay for it later when asked? Let's just say that would not work politically.


The presidents cabinet makes plans. They have teams that work out the specifics. Medicare for all, free college, an infrastructure bill, a jobs program would help blacks a lot more than saying reparations. I know you feel the point of college is to get a job immediately but it helps in other ways. For example I assume you are black, and if you are a brethette then you know black women have a tougher time getting an accurate diagnosis. Now do you think if college was free you could have more black women doctors? Now becoming a doctor wont be a gamble worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. Yeah they may not be EMPLOYED by some cac but enough black people (not just young adults), who know how to start business and have those contacts due to higher education now can start a hospital. A federal jobs and infrastructure program, could help give local contracts for building the hospital and roads going to it.

I want the Commission for the Study to be approved --- then we can create the panel of Black experts, economist, lawyers, historians and other specialist to figure out the full owed debt - the issues and then create the plan. But, this can be down during Sanders terms and can be pushed by him.

On your other statement -- we need specific policies.
 

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A lot of Democrats praised George Wallace, this isn’t a surprise. He was nearly assassinated in the late 60s/early 70s and allegedly “finding god” during his recovery and realizing the error of his racist ways (one could argue if this was really just a politically convenient transition to comport with racially progressive times). He later carried 80% of the black vote in a subsequent gubernatorial election.
 
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