My takeaways after finishing Raekwon's new book, From Staircase to Stage.

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I know.. But there was an interview where the abbot was vocal about maturing, leave that old shyt alone, you can't keep speaking about that life when you are a celebrity, have fans from all ages etc. This was definitely between 2006 or 7 to 2011. When the rza was getting bullshyt from everybody. It was defo after ODB death. But he never shyttd on the chef like harsh. Just told him to be mature.

I think you man the interview around 8 Diagrams. He was saying how Rae wants to still rap about hustling but he hasn't hustled since 95.
 

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A lot of these could be old beats from RZA's prime. Rae mentions all the beats on Cuban Linx 2 were old RZA beats. He said the clan is always trying to get to his old beats. When he went to RZA with the idea for CL2, he insisted they had to be old RZA beats and RZA agreed.

They weren't old beats...they may have been from when he first started working on it, before Dre shelved it, but they were new beats produced for that album.

2/3 Digital projects, 2 Afro Samurai soundtracks, and everything sparse in between are better than anything Rae put out, that didn't have RZA's involvement. Rae been hatin since '98 when he called him a hippie and said that ish is wack.

These dudes don't want to pay outside producers. And for Wu priojects, for A Better Tomorrow, RZA said they could have whatever producer they wanted, but he told them they had to call them. That shut all of this ish up.
 

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I think you man the interview around 8 Diagrams. He was saying how Rae wants to still rap about hustling but he hasn't hustled since 95.


Ok. I don't remember at all. It's definitely a rarity cause RZA loves to go on and on about how dope Rae gangsta shyt is. He musta been really pissed at Rae in the interview y'all referring to.
 

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:francis: fuk it I'll say it

1. wu tang is the most overran music group ever

2. wu tang ain't a top 5 rap group
 

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I like that album but I could NEVER forgive RZA for what he did to The Heart Gently Weeps. The version that originally leaked was PERFECT and he had to go and fukk it up. Why RZA?!!? WHY:damn:

He also fukked up Unpredictable

The original version :blessed:



The overproduced album version with the different hook :scust:

 

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Ok. I don't remember at all. It's definitely a rarity cause RZA loves to go on and on about how dope Rae gangsta shyt is. He musta been really pissed at Rae in the interview y'all referring to.
oh yeah and it was an eye opener with the turbulence surrounding the wu in that particular time.
The RZA was on that fukk of you..i'll do me!But he already tried that but never worked out,..so wu tang is the grain and will always be the number 1!
 

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:francis: fuk it I'll say it

1. wu tang is the most overran music group ever

2. wu tang ain't a top 5 rap group
Naaah they def top 5 unless you're not including solo projects, but I don't see how you can't.

They started a global movement, made arguably the greatest song in history, CREAM. They have undeniable classics. Set a lot of trends. Were the first group to have a successful clothing line. RZA has so many classic beats. Ghostface is top 5 MC. Meth might have the goat flow in history. Cuban Linx is a top 10 album. Naaaah they def top 5
 

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It seems like Rae main issue is RZA making wack beats for 20 years. If the beats were on point he wouldn’t have minded getting jerked.
 
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It seems like Rae main issue is RZA making wack beats for 20 years. If the beats were on point he wouldn’t have minded getting jerked.


The fans issue with Rae from 99-04 was the wack ass beats he’d been choosing on his solo albums. Its ironic how he had to go back to the drawing board WITH RZA for Cuban Linx 2 and get that spark back.
 
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