My Posse's On Broadway: Official NY Knicks 2016-2017 Season Thread

[tremonthustler1]

to N'Dour. More life. More blessings.

 

[ThaBronxBully]

Typical Knicks Think You're Winning But You're Really Losing

 

[ISO]

Knicks and Ntilikina, don't think it happens. We never get the player we talk up.

NBAdraft.net and DraftExpress has Ntilikina going 10-14 range, I think he'll be available just personally don't see the hype.

 

[Frump]

I think the direction the team wants to go for is more pass first, Feed Willy or feed KP next year guards. I am also wondering after the press conference if they have identified Baker as someone who can be their PG next year. On most teams he would be a backup but in the Tryangle the PG is ususally a 3&D guy. Patrick Beverly would be the ideal Tryangle PG, Fisher was more or less the same thing but physically smaller than Baker so he fits that mold of Tryangle Starting PG. physically Ntilikina looks like he could be a Tryangle SG, get size to post and shoot over defenders, all around skilled, can't drive but the Tryangle isn't a screen/roll offense that requires that.



Wolves are a complete wildcard. They got a squad, but can't win. The offense suffers under Thibs (no surprise) but they defense is bad too. I could see them moving back for help or trading it completely. They need to figure out how to win or trade either Zach or Wiggins. They are the team I see most likely to trade the pick in the top 10 and yeah I am not surprised they are perfectly positioned to fukk the knick draft up.

I don't know if either player would go there but they could be in the Butler/George sweepstakes because they have the assets between a high pick and young players to offer

 

[Wargames]

I don't know if either player would go there but they could be in the Butler/George sweepstakes because they have the assets between a high pick and young players to offer

I could see him making an offer for Butler and putting him next to KAT. Send them Zach and/or Wiggings. Even in that scenario I don't see the Bulls Drafting a PG but you never know.

 

[Wargames]

NBAdraft.net and DraftExpress has Ntilikina going 10-14 range, I think he'll be available just personally don't see the hype.

No hype .... he just fits the Tryangle best. If he is chosen us fans will be debating for years on if Phil fukked up not taking BPA.

 

[seemorecizzy]

I knew we were losing that coin flip the second that basket went in

 

[The War Report]

@tremonthustler1


I hope your squad doesn't make the playoffs until you're on social security, cabron.

 

[ZackMorris]

KP ghosting until training camp
Phil continuing the embarassment
Me7o risking it all and more
Knicks getting #7 and could fall to #10

All within a weeks time

 

[Youhadasparkwhenustarted]

Of course the Knicks lose the coin flip

Wolves bout to draft Issac, fukk

 

[RickyGQ]

My Mock 10

Boston - Fultz
Suns - Jackson
Lakers - Ball
Philly - Monk
Orlando - Tatum
The Motherfukking Wolves - Isaac
Knicks - Ntilikina
Kings - Smith Jr
Mavs - Fox
Kings - either Markennan or Collins

Funny thing about this draft I can't say Frank is a better prospect than Fox, or Smith Jr. I just know they might not make it on the Knicks cause of how their game contrasts with what the Tryangle needs. Fox can't shoot and could end up as limited by the system and Jerian Grant was (though he is a much better player physically). Smith Jr's size and ball dominate game means he could become a rose lite player.

DSJ and one of Markennan or Collins provides the Kings with more scorers (which seems to be the plans), the Mavs wanted a defense first PG (which is why they have been connected to Ntilikina in a lot of mocks).

Not a bad mock at all. If Fox is there at 7 I'm inclined to take him. Just scared shytless that DSJ is the next Lillard or something.


OT: just listened to Brian windhorst suggest that a way for Melo to stick it to Phil is demand an outright release, get all his money and sign anywhere he wants. What would that do to the Knicks? Would we have to stretch the contract out or would it just stay on our books for the remainder of the length?

 

[Wargames]

Not a bad mock at all. If Fox is there at 7 I'm inclined to take him. Just scared shytless that DSJ is the next Lillard or something.


OT: just listened to Brian windhorst suggest that a way for Melo to stick it to Phil is demand an outright release, get all his money and sign anywhere he wants. What would that do to the Knicks? Would we have to stretch the contract out or would it just stay on our books for the remainder of the length?

Oh yeah, like I said if we reach for Ntilikina and Fox and/or DSJ are available. we're likely going to be debating this draft for years. Those guys are both likely BPA at #7 but IDK if Knicks draft who is mocked as BPA.

Brian Windhorst is a just another ESPN ho whose going to play along to get along and say inflammatory stuff to try and get clicks.

Phil/Hornecek.... Philecek would probably just limit Melo's minutes and play him as a sixth man behind KP and fukk his stats up. The media loves to say Melo has all the power but he doesn't. He can choose if he leaves but he can't choose if he plays. Melo can stay but he will be wasting the last few years of his prime here. I think he's traded before July.

 

[I.V.]

I still don't fully understand how the lottery works. As long as we stay in the 7th or 8th spot we'll be in decent shape, it's that 9th and 10th spot that scare me.

So if we had won the coin toss, what picks could we have possibly gotten?

Aight this is how it works. Every team that is "in the lottery" IE: Every team that did NOT make the playoffs - gets a set amount of ping-pong balls. Worst gets the most, best gets the least.

(here are their odds to win the 1st pick, accordingly)
1. Boston (via Brooklyn), (25%)
2. Phoenix (19.9%)
3. L.A. Lakers (15.6%)
4. Philadelphia (11.9%)
5. Orlando (8.8%)
6. Minnesota (5.3%)
7. New York (5.3%)
8. Sacramento (2.8%)
9. Dallas (1.7%)
10. Sacramento (via New Orleans, top-three protected), (1.1%)
11. Charlotte (0.8%)
12. Detroit (0.7%)
13. Denver (0.6%)
14. Miami (0.5%)


The top 3 picks are up for grabs in the lottery. They are basically raffled off. Then the rest of the spots are doled out based on your record from worst to best.

So if Boston wins the lotto, Suns win the second pick, and the Lakers win the third - then cool... the order holds as it is listed above.

But, let's say (for the sake of this thread's prayers) that the Knicks win the second pick, Boston got the first, and Philly got the third, the order would look like this:

Boston
Knicks
Philly
Phoenix
Lakers
Orlando
Minny
Sacramento
Charlotte
Detroit
Denver
Miami

You only lost draft position if a team behind you (with a better record) jumps up and wins the lottery. If a team ahead of you moves up, it doesn't change your place. So the MAX you can drop, is three spots, if three teams behind you jump up.

Knicks have an 15.3% chance at moving into the top 3. (check my math, tho!)

But also, because they are the knicks: a 0% chance.

Breh tankings overrated it's about providing a winning culture

Think of how much more confidence our young players will have next year coming off a 31 win season instead of 25

Yeah, those were big wins, really needed them to teach these young players to be champions.

 

[tremonthustler1]

@tremonthustler1


I hope your squad doesn't make the playoffs until you're on social security, cabron.

Why the hostility? I wanted y'all to win down the stretch.

I didn't have any personal investment on where the ping pong balls landed

 

[beenz]

I could see him making an offer for Butler and putting him next to KAT. Send them Zach and/or Wiggings. Even in that scenario I don't see the Bulls Drafting a PG but you never know.

The bulls are in DESPERATE need for a PG.