Coin Flip Cost Cavaliers A Chance To Pair Anthony Davis With Kyrie Irving
shyt is crazy, we could have legit been seeing a Kyrie, LeBron, Anthony Davis team
My Posse's On Broadway: Official NY Knicks 2016-2017 Season Thread
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Coin Flip Cost Cavaliers A Chance To Pair Anthony Davis With Kyrie Irving
shyt is crazy, we could have legit been seeing a Kyrie, LeBron, Anthony Davis team
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Coin Flip Cost Cavaliers A Chance To Pair Anthony Davis With Kyrie Irving
shyt is crazy, we could have legit been seeing a Kyrie, LeBron, Anthony Davis team
Wait so... As far as the tiebreaker goes, it's to decide who will pick 6th or 7th. But can we still somehow sneak into the top 3 but with a lesser chance/probability? Or the tiebreaker kills all that? @Malta
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Me either. Honestly, he could sit the bench, get fat, and collect 60M just to fukk with phil.
But, I also recognized that this is probably Phil's last resort, make melo WANT to leave. I hate it, but I definitely understand what is happening and how we got here.
I completey agree with this post
I heard him say a player of significance, not an impact vet. But going all in on the playoffs would be the nightmare scenario.
We really don't know.
I been saying kp is not ready yet all year
Phil even believes that
Again, I have no idea what he's trying to accomplish
Putting kp in that position when hes not ready is gonna lead to more losing and more frustration.
Nobody thinks he's ready to lead a team. Nobody is arguing the knicks would be better next season if Melo was cut, and they got zero returns.
That's not the argument, so stop arguing against it.
The fact of the matter is that - over the next 5 years - Porzingis is this current team's best player. So you have to build with an eye toward that. You have to acquire young talent and picks, and things that will come to fruition on the same schedule, in the same timeline. Plus, we've seen the slapdash efforts to put vets around Melo fail multiple times.
You AND Phil are arguing with red herrings, in order to purposefully miss the point. And it is why I don't want either of you running the team.
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More importantly, I was nervous this thread was fully devolving after the Phil presser, because there was just so much inflammatory, dead-fukking-wrong shyt in there.
Honestly, the worst part of it, is that he's trying to jedi mind trick KP. This team should be doing everything in its power to keep from alienating Porzingis. He is the only thing on the roster with any real value, right now.
But he's gonna go to latvia and chill for a while, which is probably for the best. Right now the focus is the draft, feeling out trade markets for vets like Lee (and Melo if such a market exists) - and then free agency, which honestly, is the most terrifying proposition in the wake of the Noah deal.
It looks like Frank is very much on the radar, which is a good thing. I don't worry about Markkanen, because he plays the one position we're set with.
Just watched a little bit of Iwundu film, his handles are kinda suspect, but his form is decent, and his length on the wing as a defender could be really useful.
seemorecizzy
Superstar
Me either. Honestly, he could sit the bench, get fat, and collect 60M just to fukk with phil.
But, I also recognized that this is probably Phil's last resort, make melo WANT to leave. I hate it, but I definitely understand what is happening and how we got here.
I heard him say a player of significance, not an impact vet. But going all in on the playoffs would be the nightmare scenario.
We really don't know.
Nobody thinks he's ready to lead a team. Nobody is arguing the knicks would be better next season if Melo was cut, and they got zero returns.
That's not the argument, so stop arguing against it.
The fact of the matter is that - over the next 5 years - Porzingis is this current team's best player. So you have to build with an eye toward that. You have to acquire young talent and picks, and things that will come to fruition on the same schedule, in the same timeline. Plus, we've seen the slapdash efforts to put vets around Melo fail multiple times.
You AND Phil are arguing with red herrings, in order to purposefully miss the point. And it is why I don't want either of you running the team.
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More importantly, I was nervous this thread was fully devolving after the Phil presser, because there was just so much inflammatory, dead-fukking-wrong shyt in there.
Honestly, the worst part of it, is that he's trying to jedi mind trick KP. This team should be doing everything in its power to keep from alienating Porzingis. He is the only thing on the roster with any real value, right now.
But he's gonna go to latvia and chill for a while, which is probably for the best. Right now the focus is the draft, feeling out trade markets for vets like Lee (and Melo if such a market exists) - and then free agency, which honestly, is the most terrifying proposition in the wake of the Noah deal.
It looks like Frank is very much on the radar, which is a good thing. I don't worry about Markkanen, because he plays the one position we're set with.
Just watched a little bit of Iwundu film, his handles are kinda suspect, but his form is decent, and his length on the wing as a defender could be really useful.
this thread is full of comments of ppl saying KP was ready to lead this teamthe backtracking is comedy
phils press conference was undeniably stupid and even his biggest supporters are being forced to fall back
you need to stay consistent. u said the knicks shouldnt piss porzingis off, but then u support them trying to force a trade to his mentor, something he's against.
he loved fisher, but then they fire him for rambis, who he hates
he credits carmelo for improving his game and helping him develop, but they disrespect him and try to force him out without asking for his opinion
you know when melo contract expires that porzingis is only gonna be 23 right
then phil opens his mouth and says he could be traded
listen. there different ways to build a team. You're whole "lets be shytty and hope we get draft picks to help porzingis" thing isn't a bad idea, but u need to stop acting like its 100 perent successful cause it isn't. Especially with phil in charge
the melo and porzingis thing can work but it won't under these circumstances so its probably better if he leaves.
when/if pornzings ends up leaving right behind him and brings willy along with him, don't be surprised
we'll have no body and melo will probably be in clevland somewhere without a ring
be good enough for the world champs but not good enough for the knicks part 2 brehs
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It's going to be the same situation, the winner of the coin flip gets a spare combination of numbers, the lottery is pretty complex and a coin flip between the 6th and 7th has happened before -
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Mock draft Tuesday. The coin flip impacted my draft too much to post it on Wednesday like I wanted to
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Who do you think the wolves take at #6 who do they take at #7
onelastdeath
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I was a Knicks fan before I was MELO fan but there's only so much front office incompetence someone Can take. Just think, the Knicks were always top 5 in fanfare (jerseys, ticket sales etc) thruout ALL those shytty years. Including the dreaded 00's, And it's the reason why they feel comfortable fukkING up. Even with a franchise like the Browns, they have incentive to get it together because the fans slow up on the support every now and then. Only thing that saves the Knicks is that they're in NYC. If they weren't no one would give a shyt about this franchise. I ain't sticking around another decade to watch them not be competitive. It just ain't gonna happen. Not from me anyway. It's one thing if we were in a rough spot but the franchise had a history for figuring out. They don't. They gonna keep fukking up cause jerseys and tickets keep selling and selling and selling. So I'll be back once they have a clear direction. I don't even need to them to be a championship contender, just to have a clear path on what the hell they tryna do. until then ?You saved up for your Melo Clippers jersey yet?
Guaranteed the Nets will figure it out before the Knicks because they have reason to.
If We could shyt on our girlfriends all day and still get head, p*ssy, and food whenever we wanted, why the fukk would anyone dedicate time to trying to be better. You don't reward
with support. Every other franchise goes by this Except for the Knicks
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onelastdeath
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We're gonna do this quick and dirty.
This last part doesn't make any sense. Shump is on the Cavs, you think he's a stud? Deron Williams is on the Cavs, you wanna build around him? Derrick Williams is on the cavs, you think he should be starring in new york?
We can't control where somebody goes next, just wish them well - because it didn't work out here. All this nihilist "oh when porzingis leaves... then you'll be sorry!" Relax. Of course I'll be sorry if Porzingis leaves. I'm sad that Melo failed here. I like him. I've ALWAYS liked him. I was sad when we traded Gallo and Wilson Chandler. I'm not a weirdo, I don't hold out hope that my teams loses/fails because my something sad happened with my favorite player. And I don't hope players fail when they leave just to spite them. My preference is for the knicks to win. They haven't done it -- time to switch it up. My backup preference is for the players I like to succeed elsewhere -- If melo is traded, I'll be rooting for him, because I'd love to see him do what he does for Team USA, and what he did at syracuse -- play well, feed teammates, and win.
I'm not tied up in my feelings, getting all emotional because it didn't work with a player I liked. That's what kids do. I just continue to hope my team figures it out, comes up with a new/improved plan, and sticks to it.
They rebuilt for ONE season, and drafted KP. Why not try rebuilding for 2-3 seasons, and improving organically? These other attempts haven't worked.
If nothing else, you then have chips to trade away for vets/stars. That's how the C's put their big 3 together.
If you want to address me, come with some facts. :toosmart:
This last part doesn't make any sense. Shump is on the Cavs, you think he's a stud? Deron Williams is on the Cavs, you wanna build around him? Derrick Williams is on the cavs, you think he should be starring in new york?
We can't control where somebody goes next, just wish them well - because it didn't work out here. All this nihilist "oh when porzingis leaves... then you'll be sorry!" Relax. Of course I'll be sorry if Porzingis leaves. I'm sad that Melo failed here. I like him. I've ALWAYS liked him. I was sad when we traded Gallo and Wilson Chandler. I'm not a weirdo, I don't hold out hope that my teams loses/fails because my something sad happened with my favorite player. And I don't hope players fail when they leave just to spite them. My preference is for the knicks to win. They haven't done it -- time to switch it up. My backup preference is for the players I like to succeed elsewhere -- If melo is traded, I'll be rooting for him, because I'd love to see him do what he does for Team USA, and what he did at syracuse -- play well, feed teammates, and win.
I'm not tied up in my feelings, getting all emotional because it didn't work with a player I liked. That's what kids do. I just continue to hope my team figures it out, comes up with a new/improved plan, and sticks to it.
They rebuilt for ONE season, and drafted KP. Why not try rebuilding for 2-3 seasons, and improving organically? These other attempts haven't worked.
If nothing else, you then have chips to trade away for vets/stars. That's how the C's put their big 3 together.
If you want to address me, come with some facts. :toosmart:
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Other than resigning Melo, which is what YOU wanted, and admittedly what I wanted as well at the time, and the Noah contract which probably wouldn't have happened if we couldn't retain Melo, he hasn't done a bad job. When it comes to the future, he's done well by drafting good players and hasn't given up any picks....I have faith we'll pick well again this year and keep it moving. What more do you want? You want a GM like Doc who can only get to the playoffs every year just to get bounced? The only reason Phil and Melo don't get along is because Melo wants the offense to go through him alone and Phil wants a system in place and team oriented play. You should remember that Phil coached the team that bounced Melo out of the only conference finals he's ever been to, I think he knows Melo's game well enough to be able to make an accurate assessment about what his role should be on the Knicks. Melo still thinks he's on Bron and Durant's level. The sad reality is that he isn't. He's older, slower, and can't even finish under the rim that often anymore. He's no longer that guy and we need to admit it, regardless of how much we fukk with him or how "professional" he is. Its over bro. And when it comes to undermining coaches, Jeff Hornacek took the job, I'm sure he knew what the deal was being that his boss is Phil Jackson and he's pretty much new to coaching.
Bottom line is I don't agree with the way Phil does certain things, but at the end of the day I feel comfortable trusting his instincts. I don't feel comfortable believing in letting players run the show, let alone players who have never won anything in the NBA aside from individual accolades.
