My Posse's On Broadway: Official NY Knicks 2016-2017 Season Thread

[onelastdeath]

patient?
if he cared about winning he wouldnt have re-upped with us seeing the direction this team was going....with the lack of talent
he wanted his money...and for that i cant blame him....but the patient angle??? he dont give a fukk.
same dude that got his way out of denver cause he wanted his money and a new place.
he aint tryna bad mouth the direction the franchise cause he likes new york.
melo is arrogant on the court...with the sheer amount of shots he takes sometimes....
i like melo for all he's done off the court...but sometimes you need to move on

Everything you're saying sounds unoriginal and regurgitated. Literally.

And I'm not saying that as an insult, cause I fukk with you . But All that shyt you wrote sounds like the same shyt y'all hear in the media all the time. Fresh off of Sportscenter type shyt. Doesn't even sound like a legitimate reason for the level of vitriol he gets .

Which is why there's so many "..." After everything you wrote because you know that shyt is fraudulent.

Fact is, you nikkas love who the media tells you to love. It's Always been that way. Same way when the Lebron hate was at 5000%, why? The media told y'all to and y'all did. And now it's that way with MELO.

Same with the love affair most people have with Giannis and how y'all are over him. shyt happened at the same time the media told y'all he was amazing and the next big thing. It's like original opinions don't exist anymore,

Nothing you said in your post warrants whatever insults you hurled at him in this thread.

"If he cared about winning", he goes out and plays his best basketball every night. Whatever problems with his skill set out have, he goes out every night, whether injured or not, and plays. There was a time here when he was carrying the team without any help, and didn't complain. The #1 destination that year for him that people loved talking about was the Bulls. Chicago is a dumpster fire right now, and the player that he was supposed to pair with is on the Knicks now. And butler seems to be on his way out. He signed with us because before Phil changed tunes, with his arrival, you'd think he'd be competent enough to set up a good team around MELO. He wanted MELO back, so he came. That ends the lack of talent thing or didn't care about winning angle. We had a high draft pick too,

I'm pretty sure someone who's dedicated 25+ years of his life to a sport, cares about winning. That doesn't make sense.

Your so deep with no argument that you literally just said that the shots he takes on a basketball court is proof that he has an arrogant personality, despite all his former teammates, never saying anything of the sort.

Wanting to move on is fine, but the hate and disrespect you give him is you being programmed by the media to dislike him.

I felt the same way about Amare and that crazy 100 million dollar contract. But didn't talk shyt because he's a class act thru the media, with the fans, and plays his game to the best of his ability on the floor,

Stop watching so much TV. That is all.

 

[onelastdeath]

That cause it's cool to dislike Melo now. I done seen dudes defend racist george karl to shyt on Melo, defend phil, tell me melo should have never started a nba game in his entire career.


shyt is jokes.

Soon everyone can move on.

I saw it, the media really does control the masses. In every media branch. Sports. Politics. Fashion. It's a shame really. It's why I try to stay away from it. So that I can have my own thoughts and opinions.

Not call someone a fat lazy bum who doesn't care about winning, just because some white people with platforms told me that's what it is.

The media perception of NBA players Alexa's matched up with fan perceptions of the players.

Every year. Every player. shyt is a shame.

 

[ikbm]

Everything you're saying sounds unoriginal and regurgitated. Literally.

And I'm not saying that as an insult, cause I fukk with you . But All that shyt you wrote sounds like the same shyt y'all hear in the media all the time. Fresh off of Sportscenter type shyt. Doesn't even sound like a legitimate reason for the level of vitriol he gets .

Which is why there's so many "..." After everything you wrote because you know that shyt is fraudulent.

nah...ive come to my own conclusions of watching him play over the course of the last 4 years.

Same with the love affair most people have with Giannis and how y'all are over him. shyt happened at the same time the media told y'all he was amazing and the next big thing. It's like original opinions don't exist anymore,

anyone with eyes can see giannis a dynamic player on the upswing in his career and he's several years from his prime. barring injuries he'll be great.

Nothing you said in your post warrants whatever insults you hurled at him in this thread.

"If he cared about winning", he goes out and plays his best basketball every night. Whatever problems with his skill set out have, he goes out every night, whether injured or not, and plays. There was a time here when he was carrying the team without any help, and didn't complain. The #1 destination that year for him that people loved talking about was the Bulls. Chicago is a dumpster fire right now, and the player that he was supposed to pair with is on the Knicks now. And butler seems to be on his way out. He signed with us because before Phil changed tunes, with his arrival, you'd think he'd be competent enough to set up a good team around MELO. He wanted MELO back, so he came. That ends the lack of talent thing or didn't care about winning angle. We had a high draft pick too,

I'm pretty sure someone who's dedicated 25+ years of his life to a sport, cares about winning. That doesn't make sense.

him doing his job is not something worth clamoring over. he gets paid close to 30 million dollars a year to play basketball....a game.... i'd hope he'd atleast show up to the games.
there were more options than the bulls. the knicks lacked talent when he signed and we arent all that much better in that department since. In the end it was idiotic for phil to give melo a ntc...cause he wasnt going anywhere. he bet against himself thinking an aging melo would be someone you could make the #1 option on a competing team in 2017....among other roster moves.

Your so deep with no argument that you literally just said that the shots he takes on a basketball court is proof that he has an arrogant personality, despite all his former teammates, never saying anything of the sort.

Wanting to move on is fine, but the hate and disrespect you give him is you being programmed by the media to dislike him.

melo has the usage and shot selection someone who's playing at a high level that's 27...not 32.
i find it either idiotic or arrogant....that he has the ball that much and isnt doing all that much with it. i gave him the benefit of the doubt and called him arrogant cause i dont think he's stupid.
he doesnt help the team very much if his shot is off...and these are facts. he's not a distributor..he's not good on defense.
you cannot sit there with a straight face and tell me melo hasnt taken some of the most ridiculous shots you've seen. 30 foot 3 pointers...cause he's "feeling it"
isolations where he takes up 20 seconds out the shot clock...to take a contested shot on a loaded up defense.
these are things i'm seeing with my eyeballs. sure melo has done good...but he's also done a lot of bad.

i dislike his game. I like melo as a person....but he's not someone you can build around anymore. its not 2010.

I felt the same way about Amare and that crazy 100 million dollar contract. But didn't talk shyt because he's a class act thru the media, with the fans, and plays his game to the best of his ability on the floor,

Stop watching so much TV. That is all.

amares body failed him. when he was on the court he produced....thats not the same situation as melo
amares contract was bad for different reasons...but it was a contract riddled with desperation. we needed a player here.


my opinions are my own. not some espn talking heads.
if anything in my response is disputable i'd love to hear it.

 

[ogc163]

New York Knicks: Early March 2017 NBA Mock Draft
https://theringer.com/dream-scenari...t-nba-draft-prospects-b445af3056f8#.skj2mv6zx

 

[Youngdev]

I saw it, the media really does control the masses. In every media branch. Sports. Politics. Fashion. It's a shame really. It's why I try to stay away from it. So that I can have my own thoughts and opinions.

Not call someone a fat lazy bum who doesn't care about winning, just because some white people with platforms told me that's what it is.

The media perception of NBA players Alexa's matched up with fan perceptions of the players.

Every year. Every player. shyt is a shame.

It's a narrative. KD said it about Javale the other day, once it's a narrative on your as a sports player it's hard to shake. The only way to shake it is by winning a championship, which for some reason fans think is easy. Some of the criticism is def fair you the best player you gonna get the criticism but alot of it is completely over the top. As a Melo fan I will be happy when he leaves in NY.

Amare never played a lick of defense his whole career. I bet I won't hear anyone say Amare didn't or don't care about winning.

 

[ogc163]

 

[onelastdeath]

It's a narrative. KD said it about Javale the other day, once it's a narrative on your as a sports player it's hard to shake. The only way to shake it is by winning a championship, which for some reason fans think is easy. Some of the criticism is def fair you the best player you gonna get the criticism but alot of it is completely over the top. As a Melo fan I will be happy when he leaves in NY.

Amare never played a lick of defense his whole career. I bet I won't hear anyone say Amare didn't or don't care about winning.

Media Narratives ruin sports talk in my honest opinion.

For the last 5 years, Russ was an inefficient chucker who didn't have the sense to play a true second fiddle to an all time great talent in KD.

MEdia said that and people ran with it.

This season media sees a story about Russ' greatness being profitable. So they start saying things that anyone with any sense could see. Russ himself is an all time great talent, and he also has a high basketball IQ, and now that it's a media talking point, the public now gives him his just due, when he should have already gotten it.

I see it too much. And it happens with every sport.

Happened with Aaron Rodgers recently, "he's past his best, he might need to be traded, time to groom another QB" then he starts ballin again, media perception changes and so do the fans opinion of said players.

happened with Cam Newton, Odell Beckham Jr this playoff run, and it continues to happen all across sports that it's hard to even have objective conversations. Then the stat nerds WHO ARE THE WORST. Not actual analytic guys who break down the game, but those Breed of people who take numbers and advanced stats they didn't create, and ones that they barely understand. Add that with the media narrative about said player and then they engage in conversation and swear that they know more than you because they read some numbers and watch Sportscenter or read blogs. The shyt is the worst of all time when it comes to sports discussion. Which is I honestly try to avoid it at this point.

It's why I made this post

These nikkas Be like

"His BMX is .27 and his DBZ is .548 up from .339 last season, not to mention PIRU is .722 so how is he a bad defender? The numbers just don't say it"

Hate those type of nikkas more than wet socks man.

 

[DPresidential]

I feel like you are a little caught up in your feelings about tanking, rather than the reality of the league. You are attached to this idea of "tanking" as some moral failure, as if it involves teams playing the popcorn guy at the 5, and forcing your top players to miss the bus.

There are already 5 or so teams that begin the season with the understanding that they will not be competing for a championship. They have un-spent cap space leftover from the summer, they are not putting on "the most competitive roster they can" - they are trying to get some guys experience, and planning on landing a high lottery pick.

If your roster is not good enough to compete, at all, and you're putting out some young players, and you're winning 18-25 games... you are tanking. A lot of teams are already doing that.

That approach is complicated when you have vets on the team who are decent, but not really in your future plans: PJ Tucker and Chandler in PHX for example -- they were better with Chandler playing more minutes, but they still weren't THAT good.

The Knicks had a horrendous and short-sighted summer. And they are in a unique position where the best player on their team is no longer in the future plans, but also can't be moved, because of a previous awful summer decision.

Right now there are 8 or 9 teams that may not win 30 games. 3 or 4 that are unlikely to win 25. Are you weeping for the integrity of the game right now?

You can set up a season where your goal is to play/try-out young/hungry guys, see who fits, and still not win. You can also arrive at a point during the season, where things have gone off the rails, and you realize you're better off losing than winning. Sports are relative, and as I said before, it's not just "go for a chip" or "lose 80 games" -- there are plenty of teams who are too good to be a lottery team, but not quite good enough to compete for a chip, and playing a competitive season, making the playoffs, and trying to figure out how you can take the next step -- is all a part of the process. There are also teams trying to make the leap from bottom-feeder to that middle tier, BECAUSE they've accrued the talent to compete.

Weeping now?

No because on a natural curve of effort, there will be people, teams and organizations that will be trash and the lottery is designed to provide a crutch for teams who are at the bottom of that curve.

Let's scale back the talk about me being in my feelings about tanking when, instead of me trolling, I'm actually trying to understand what the fukk y'all mean by it and whether I think if all the teams who fit into a particular classification as a tank team would it make the NBA product worse than it is now.

The pedestal you jumped on just now was corny as fukk.

I've already spoken ad nauseum about my feelings on playing to win and rooting for that...I'm not trying to beat that horse again, breh. I'm legitimately asking some questions on a concept I want to understand.

I see articles like this:

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/6838027/

And The Heat are about to tank. Sorry, 'rebuild'

And I'm still confused as to the concept.

I've always been craving a rebuild, this tank term is new to me.

I've tried to be low-key in this thread and not get into spats but you're throwing a bone to the emotional "Melo fukked my main wiz" nikkas in this thread.

nikkas on some thread police but fail to check the real lames who jerk off Everytime Melo does anything.

shyt is spooky...


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Now regarding the respectful part of your post...Yea I get it. I've been thinking their is a tiered hierarchy regarding what fans can root for.

Cool.

 

[DPresidential]

If we could I'd love to keep Holiday, Quinn of Queens, Hernan, Kuzzin, Randle, The Chef, Lee, and KP just a nice young core. We need a younger SF though with all around capabilities and more size plus shooting

He was the best part of the trade.

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

Everything you're saying sounds unoriginal and regurgitated. Literally.

And I'm not saying that as an insult, cause I fukk with you . But All that shyt you wrote sounds like the same shyt y'all hear in the media all the time. Fresh off of Sportscenter type shyt. Doesn't even sound like a legitimate reason for the level of vitriol he gets .

Which is why there's so many "..." After everything you wrote because you know that shyt is fraudulent.

Fact is, you nikkas love who the media tells you to love. It's Always been that way. Same way when the Lebron hate was at 5000%, why? The media told y'all to and y'all did. And now it's that way with MELO.

Same with the love affair most people have with Giannis and how y'all are over him. shyt happened at the same time the media told y'all he was amazing and the next big thing. It's like original opinions don't exist anymore,

Nothing you said in your post warrants whatever insults you hurled at him in this thread.

"If he cared about winning", he goes out and plays his best basketball every night. Whatever problems with his skill set out have, he goes out every night, whether injured or not, and plays. There was a time here when he was carrying the team without any help, and didn't complain. The #1 destination that year for him that people loved talking about was the Bulls. Chicago is a dumpster fire right now, and the player that he was supposed to pair with is on the Knicks now. And butler seems to be on his way out. He signed with us because before Phil changed tunes, with his arrival, you'd think he'd be competent enough to set up a good team around MELO. He wanted MELO back, so he came. That ends the lack of talent thing or didn't care about winning angle. We had a high draft pick too,

I'm pretty sure someone who's dedicated 25+ years of his life to a sport, cares about winning. That doesn't make sense.

Your so deep with no argument that you literally just said that the shots he takes on a basketball court is proof that he has an arrogant personality, despite all his former teammates, never saying anything of the sort.

Wanting to move on is fine, but the hate and disrespect you give him is you being programmed by the media to dislike him.

I felt the same way about Amare and that crazy 100 million dollar contract. But didn't talk shyt because he's a class act thru the media, with the fans, and plays his game to the best of his ability on the floor,

Stop watching so much TV. That is all.

 

[I.V.]

Alright, let's address things as they come here, because you took more offense than I meant.

Weeping now?
No because on a natural curve of effort, there will be people, teams and organizations that will be trash and the lottery is designed to provide a crutch for teams who are at the bottom of that curve.
The curve is talent. It is not effort. The lottery is there to replenish and replace talent.


Let's scale back the talk about me being in my feelings about tanking when, instead of me trolling, I'm actually trying to understand what the fukk y'all mean by it and whether I think if all the teams who fit into a particular classification as a tank team would it make the NBA product worse than it is now.

I did not mean it as a dig, you clearly have a very personal and feelings-oriented reaction around the idea of "tanking." And you are trying to parse is, when in reality, it is not a scientific term. it does not have a specific classification or definition. It is now used to refer to any team that is losing consistently, or "SHOULD" lose more, in order to acquire a better pick, or even teams that aren't trying to lose, but are kinda fukkin' up.

The pedestal you jumped on just now was corny as fukk.
I don't know what this means. It is also starting to feel like you maybe didn't read the whole post, because there was a decent amout of information in there, and all that's been addressed so far, is again, your feelings.

I've already spoken ad nauseum about my feelings on playing to win and rooting for that...I'm not trying to beat that horse again, breh. I'm legitimately asking some questions on a concept I want to understand.
It is STARTING to feel like you're looking for strawmen to knock down, or to argue against -- rather than looking for actual information. And your fixation on, say, the Bucks, seems to confirm that.


I see articles like this:

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/6838027/

And The Heat are about to tank. Sorry, 'rebuild'

And I'm still confused as to the concept.

I'm not sure what is confusing about those articles.



I've always been craving a rebuild, this tank term is new to me.
Then just replace the term tank with rebuild. The knicks need to rebuild, and the best way to rebuild would be to lose as many games as possible down the stretch, and have a better pick this summer, because they stink, breh. They stink. Rose Stinks. Noah Stinks. The team's defense stinks. And that's because the team is not very talented.

So they need more talent. And the best way for them to acquire and keep talent is to draft it. So they need the best pick possible. So they need to lose.


I've tried to be low-key in this thread and not get into spats but you're throwing a bone to the emotional "Melo fukked my main wiz" nikkas in this thread.

Again, I'm not really sure what this means. I don't know who I'm throwing a bone to. I don't care about people who hate melo, I like melo. I'd love to succeed with Melo. But we are not going to. So you gotta move on, and figure out how to succeed without factoring him in.

nikkas on some thread police but fail to check the real lames who jerk off Everytime Melo does anything.

This is not thread police, this is me responding directly to somebody who asked a question of me, in the only thread I really still visit on this site, which is turning into a dumpster fire.

shyt is spooky...

Again, don't know what this means. But it feels like feelings.

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Now regarding the respectful part of your post...Yea I get it. I've been thinking their is a tiered hierarchy regarding what fans can root for.

Not really. Fans can root for whatever they want. They do, in fact. You have been rooting for this team to succeed with melo, and fight for a playoff spot. That is your right as a fan, to root for that shyt.

But you were not firmly planted in reality. You were too optimistic. And now after two seasons of watching this team fail, you are coming to grips with the approach the team should take, given its circumstances.

I think the feelings comments got in your head. I don't really care about feelings. I don't see that as an insult. I'm not one of these dudes that thinks feelings are code for some other shyt.

It is just very obvious that you have an emotional reaction to the idea of running a team, without the end goal being: win as many games as possible right now. I think you are clinging to the term "tanking" to maintain some kind of moral high ground -- like teams shouldn't try to lose, but if they are designed to lose and happen to lose, then that's okay. Ehh. To me, that shyt is largely the same.

For me -- as somebody who has worked in basketball, worked with front offices, covered the sport, and follow closely -- as I watch my favorite team SUCK for two decades, I think you have to take a measured and direct approach to fixing the problem. They need to lose games, get the best pick possible, and draft the best player they can. They need to trade useful veteran pieces that will not serve them while they stink, for assets that can improve them over the next 2. 3, 5 years.

That's why melo has to go. Or should have gone a long time ago -- not because "he sucks" -- he doesn't suck. He's a Hall of Famer. But because his time frame did not fit with the Knicks time frame, once they made the move to TANK... and draft Porzingis. And he doesn't fit now, but his value has plummeted.

Now everyone is trying to come to grips with tanking/losing/etc but the team has been losing forever. You've been rooting for losers. You're just growing up a little, and figuring out how the NBA actually works, as a business.

 

[DPresidential]

@i.V
If your definition of tanking is tantamount to rebuilding...Why the need for the new terminology? My entire inquiry was an attempt to understand you and @Malta Without trolling, breh.

I want Melo traded so he can go out of this cesspool, I've acknowledged the Melo experiment has failed and I'm absolutely willingly to see the youth play all available minutes.

However, the difference is while watching the young guys, I would root for them to play well and if they win, well damn that is an enjoyable game that I saw. I'm seeing people in this thread literally pissed off when Chasson Randle comes into the game and they win a game with him. Like, breh, shyt happens and sometimes the young guys contribute to wins.

. You're just growing up a little, and figuring out how the NBA actually works, as a business
.

Your effortless ability to be a condescending nikka is unparalleled.

This is a basketball, yes? My enjoyment stems from loving to root my team on from game to game as well as hoping they make the right moves for a chip. Hopefully, those two desires intersect, if not, I'm quite content, regardless.

I want a rebuild. I want to watch young brehs play and become the future of the franchise. I want the pieces, draft position, playoffs to fall where it will as long as the players on the court are playing to win. I'm rooting for the GM to make the smartest decisions and I'm rooting for the players I like to play with 110℅.

Regarding your confusion about what I said, sorry you didn't understand.

This thread has absolutely become a dumpster fire. You really can't blame that on the type of fans one would reasonably expect to be in a Knick thread...The type of fan who genuinely likes and supports his Knicks players and likes to express enjoyment for a made shot by a Knick.

This thread has become a dumpster fire because of the brehs who make every point to take a dig at any win or any thing Carmelo Anthony does as if their anger stems from...

Hmmm... I need not confuse you...

...As if it stems from Melo engaging in an scandalous act of infidelity aka "Melo fukked their main wiz".

You don't get why it's kind of weird(spooky) that you'd take the time to comment on my emotions instead of objectively answering my question on tanking yet the brehs who spend half a post talking about wishing Melo would be hit by a team bus and the other half of a post talking about future draft prospects hardly get the same psychoanalysis from you, breh?

This is why it appeared that you, consciously or otherwise, were throwing a bone to the trolls of this thread. Hopefully you understand that and if I'm completely wrong then...Respect, my nikka.

Considering you're very reasonable statement that we aren't going to win with Melo and we should move on... The same energy is never spent by a nikka like you to tell the @Frump And the @ogc163 of the thread for them to get out of their feels about hating Melo and riding off into the sunset with something more consistently productive for the thread you believe has turned into said dumpster fire?

My God that's a bunch of run on sentences.

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Last question, if the Knicks were to get one of the better prospects of this class, I imagine we wouldn't be in next season's thread wasting time talking about tanking if Lonzo Ball and KP are healthy, right?

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

@i.V
If your definition of tanking is tantamount to rebuilding...Why the need for the new terminology? My entire inquiry was an attempt to understand you and @Malta Without trolling, breh.

I want Melo traded so he can go out of this cesspool, I've acknowledged the Melo experiment has failed and I'm absolutely willingly to see the youth play all available minutes.

However, the difference is while watching the young guys, I would root for them to play well and if they win, well damn that is an enjoyable game that I saw. I'm seeing people in this thread literally pissed off when Chasson Randle comes into the game and they win a game with him. Like, breh, shyt happens and sometimes the young guys contribute to wins.



Your effortless ability to be a condescending nikka is unparalleled.

This is a basketball, yes? My enjoyment stems from loving to root my team on from game to game as well as hoping they make the right moves for a chip. Hopefully, those two desires intersect, if not, I'm quite content, regardless.

I want a rebuild. I want to watch young brehs play and become the future of the franchise. I want the pieces, draft position, playoffs to fall where it will as long as the players on the court are playing to win. I'm rooting for the GM to make the smartest decisions and I'm rooting for the players I like to play with 110℅.

Regarding your confusion about what I said, sorry you didn't understand.

This thread has absolutely become a dumpster fire. You really can't blame that on the type of fans one would reasonably expect to be in a Knick thread...The type of fan who genuinely likes and supports his Knicks players and likes to express enjoyment for a made shot by a Knick.

This thread has become a dumpster fire because of the brehs who make every point to take a dig at any win or any thing Carmelo Anthony does as if their anger stems from...

Hmmm... I need not confuse you...

...As if it stems from Melo engaging in an scandalous act of infidelity aka "Melo fukked their main wiz".

You don't get why it's kind of weird(spooky) that you'd take the time to comment on my emotions instead of objectively answering my question on tanking yet the brehs who spend half a post talking about wishing Melo would be hit by a team bus and the other half of a post talking about future draft prospects hardly get the same psychoanalysis from you, breh?

This is why it appeared that you, consciously or otherwise, was throwing a bone to the trolls of thread. Hopefully you understand that and if I'm completely wrong than...My nikka

Considering you're very reasonable statement that we aren't going to win with Melo and we should move on... The same energy is never spent by a nikka like you to tell the @Frump And the @ogc163 of the thread for them to get out of their feels about hating Melo and riding off into the sunset with something more consistently productive for the thread you believe has turned into said dumpster fire?

My God that's a bunch of run on sentences.

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Last question, if the Knicks were to get one of the better prospects of this class, I imagine we wouldn't be in next season's thread wasting time talking about tanking if Lonzo Ball and KP are healthy, right?

Oh....

 

[RickyGQ]

If we could I'd love to keep Holiday, Quinn of Queens, Hernan, Kuzzin, Randle, The Chef, Lee, and KP just a nice young core. We need a younger SF though with all around capabilities and more size plus shooting

Almost positive he goes to play with his brother this off season, especially with how much talent they need in NO

 

[ogc163]

You provide cats with stats, videos, and explanations why you don't fukk with a player and dudes engage in consistent psychoanalysis. Cats been consistently wrong for the better part of two years and still claiming the high ground...gotta love it.@DPresidential I expected better from you, you need another poster to tell me to chill out or scold me on an internet forum? That's wiiiiild extra.

When cats are serious about inquiring about why I don't fux with Melo as a player and/or why I feel the Knicks should tank for the next two years I provide the answer but I respond on some funny shyt to posters who are stuck in their feelings/insincere and have no intention of hearing me out. I'll be in next years thread talking about the 2018 draft unless the dude the Knicks pick is a beast and it is obvious making the playoffs/fighting to make the playoffs makes sense, so that's a forewarning to anyone who gets aggy over me talking about draft prospects. I won't be irrationally be hype over ish that doesn't benefit the Knicks long term, and again if that annoys you