My NYC Black Folk......Gentrification

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this woman sound hurt as fuk. Maybe she's a loud ignorant bytch and the dude doesn't want anything to do with her?

Its crazy bc the woman looks old and probably grew up when there were thousands of rapes, robbies murder and other human brutality but she's offended bc some dude who prob doesn't give a shyt about her won't say good morning :dead:
 

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this woman sound hurt as fuk. Maybe she's a loud ignorant bytch and the dude doesn't want anything to do with her?

Its crazy bc the woman looks old and probably grew up when there were thousands of rapes, robbies murder and other human brutality but she's offended bc some dude who prob doesn't give a shyt about her won't say good morning :dead:
That's yall problem. You guys swear there wasn't any sense of community when those things were going on. First of all, Clinton Hill was never THAT wild like how you describe it. Sure...shyt had its fukk ups, but people weren't as closed off as these new folks are that rely on thinking those rapes, robberies and murders you're overrating was the end all of the neighborhood and gives them a right not to be cordial, ain't that right @GinaThatAintNoDamnPuppy!
 

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Someone new moves to the neighborhood, the onus is on THEM to make the OLD PEOPLE feel welcome... yea thats not how it works fam, we had this discussion already. Thats def a GREAT attitude to have in the face of gentrification. Act like people moving into your neighborhood owe you something. Get the fukk outta here with this bullshyt
 

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That's yall problem. You guys swear there wasn't any sense of community when those things were going on. First of all, Clinton Hill was never THAT wild like how you describe it. Sure...shyt had its fukk ups, but people weren't as closed off as these new folks are that rely on thinking those rapes, robberies and murders you're overrating was the end all of the neighborhood and gives them a right not to be cordial, ain't that right @GinaThatAintNoDamnPuppy!

Im just saying her complaints look foolish. Would you go infront of a judge and use the argument that the neighbourhood is worse off than it was because some kid didn't say good morning to you?:pachaha:

And how big of an ego must you possess for an interaction like that to even be stuck in your brain:pachaha:
 

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Im just saying her complaints look foolish. Would you go infront of a judge and use the argument that the neighbourhood is worse off than it was because some kid didn't say good morning to you?:pachaha:

And how big of an ego must you possess for an interaction like that to even be stuck in your brain:pachaha:

Thats a dumb as reason and nor is she the one I'd have articulate how things are worse off.

I feel they're worse off because it's the final conclusion of a city which never invested in its long time residence, opting to hand over fist open the doors for others.

The quiet thing about gentrification is how its opened the door to other issues. The cops beat the shyt out of my boys dad for drinking an open beer in front of his house on Union st and the city gave him a $750,000 settlement. Hes about the third person I've heard settle with police overdoing it in these newly gentrified neighborhoods, more interested in protecting the newbies rather than the longtime residents they see as the enemy. City is paying out tons of dollars now on these settlements.

Its crazy. I just read a case where they gave a black business owner a citation for riding his bike on a sidewalk and while interviewing him, he points at the chinese delivery guy up the street doing the same thing and says "see...he can get away with it."

No one likes the apartheid system going on in BK now.
 

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That's yall problem. You guys swear there wasn't any sense of community when those things were going on. First of all, Clinton Hill was never THAT wild like how you describe it. Sure...shyt had its fukk ups, but people weren't as closed off as these new folks are that rely on thinking those rapes, robberies and murders you're overrating was the end all of the neighborhood and gives them a right not to be cordial, ain't that right @GinaThatAintNoDamnPuppy!

I :salute: you on the defense...seems like in this thread people act like BK was the wild wild west or a goddamn jungle. Fort Greene's has always been a nice area since I could remember. I also think age plays a factor also on how things and areas are viewed. Younger people might find an area dangerous, as opposed to older folks who probably don't pay any mind to those things, hence them not being afraid.
 

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Thats a dumb as reason and nor is she the one I'd have articulate how things are worse off.

I feel they're worse off because it's the final conclusion of a city which never invested in its long time residence, opting to hand over fist open the doors for others.

The quiet thing about gentrification is how its opened the door to other issues. The cops beat the shyt out of my boys dad for drinking an open beer in front of his house on Union st and the city gave him a $750,000 settlement. Hes about the third person I've heard settle with police overdoing it in these newly gentrified neighborhoods, more interested in protecting the newbies rather than the longtime residents they see as the enemy. City is paying out tons of dollars now on these settlements.

Its crazy. I just read a case where they gave a black business owner a citation for riding his bike on a sidewalk and while interviewing him, he points at the chinese delivery guy up the street doing the same thing and says "see...he can get away with it."

No one likes the apartheid system going on in BK now.

Well first off that doesn't help anybody. If the cops go and arrest the Chinese guy the black dude still getting a citation so if it makes him feel better that he got somebody else in trouble than whatever.

IDK the history of the ownership of those neighbourhoods so i can't really speak on it in depth im just going by what i see/read, do black's own anything their? Because just living their for 50 years isn't going to actually get you anything for yourself, ppl been places livin for like 1000 years and lost it bc they didn't actually have any action plan for the place and they didn't take command of the ownership of it. It's rather that or the black people DID own all the infrastructure and sold it off, in which case they can't complain obviously.

Its crazy to think that black's wouldn't own anything there though:russ: that can't be true.
 

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I :salute: you on the defense...seems like in this thread people act like BK was the wild wild west or a goddamn jungle. Fort Greene's has always been a nice area since I could remember. I also think age plays a factor also on how things and areas are viewed. Younger people might find an area dangerous, as opposed to older folks who probably don't pay any mind to those things, hence them not being afraid.


That's the thing that kills me. It's common for white folks and some cornball blacks to use the overhyping of crime to justify being closed off and treating everyone like suspects, while thinking they're purveyors of "the good life" for the febble minded old residents in the area.

A lot of times, the resentment the newbies face outside of their closed off behavior has to do with how police and the city mistreat the long time residents to the fortunes of these new people.

At the same time, the longtime black elected officials many old time residents kept electing are to blame, so we also play a role in our own demise.
 

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Well first off that doesn't help anybody. If the cops go and arrest the Chinese guy the black dude still getting a citation so if it makes him feel better that he got somebody else in trouble than whatever.

It's not about making him "feel better" it's about the outright bias towards blacks, period. It's oppression....not some "feel better" get back you're making it out to be.

IDK the history of the ownership of those neighbourhoods so i can't really speak on it in depth im just going by what i see/read, do black's own anything their? Because just living their for 50 years isn't going to actually get you anything for yourself, ppl been places livin for like 1000 years and lost it bc they didn't actually have any action plan for the place and they didn't take command of the ownership of it. It's rather that or the black people DID own all the infrastructure and sold it off, in which case they can't complain obviously.


Its crazy to think that black's wouldn't own anything there though:russ: that can't be true.

Plenty of blacks own brownstones in these communities but many are cashing out and opting to move down south. It also didn't help things that the city did little to invest in its long time low income residents.
 

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Not going hate on section 8 housing on the beach.....but I see what your saying and my urban planning beef with Moses is when he prevented a subway connection across the Verazanno Bridge when they were proposing it...the beaches of Staten Island would look like what you are describing I think...it would be more connected to the rest of the city and region.....

I was reading up on him.....and he got a lot of his power b/se he was in charge of one of those bridge between Queens and the Bronx that became a toll bridge and raking in big bucks :birdman: ....so much so that he was providing funding for other NYC infrastructure projects at the time....with that said.....he did put in some good thoroughfares for the city...

Whenever SI gets that subway to Brooklyn, you can say RIP completely to NY :wow2:
 

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Boardwalk/beach was crazy around Beach 127th

Me and wifey were there every other weekend last summer. shyt was a lot of fun

:myman: Rockaway is the nicest beach in NY Idgaf what any1 says...but it does get shytty the further u go down on the boardwalk...beach 127th is a nicer part of town...I go to 135th ill b there on Saturday drinkin come holler at a breh, breh :smugdraper:
 
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