My NYC Black Folk......Gentrification

[Mike Ock]

@Mike Ock its more like 6 or 7 acres. Too lazy to post the screen shot but if you look at Google Maps all the crosses in Spanish Harlem are projects

Its not too bad out there though... doesnt have the glamour and swag of regular Harlem but who cares.
@88m3 @ogc163 def depends who you ask. If you cant get your hood pass validated you will be deemed an enemy by a gatekeeper. My landlord in CH was a young black lawyer and the other two apts in my building had all white tenants

At this point and aside from work, I just don't care about Manhattan. Buuuut I would easily like to invest and sub-lease a spot up in Dykeman.

 

[ogc163]

About to head out and I'll have a longer post on it, but overall yeah I still think it's gentrification if middle class Black people move into a poor latino/black community. You can't have it both ways imo, constantly pointing out the class issues inherent in the discussion of gentrification but then hiding behind race when it is your own folks doing it. That is the reason I highlighted that statement because it represents a certain type of mindset prevalent especially in NYC, middle class Black folks in my experience do not hesitate to talk about "Privilege" in various forms but act oblivious to the ways in which being middle class has it's perks and makes for a very different "Black experience" in comparison to poor Black folks. Pieces like the one I put up are rare and I give the writer props for being so blunt throughout, because many Black pundits will have no problems talking about colorism, racism, and every other ism under the sun but then get real uncomfortable when it comes to discussing classism and all that comes with it within the Black community.

 

[88m3]

About to head out and I'll have a longer post on it, but overall yeah I still think it's gentrification if middle class Black people move into a poor latino/black community. You can't have it both ways imo, constantly pointing out the class issues inherent in the discussion of gentrification but then hiding behind race when it is your own folks doing it. That is the reason I highlighted that statement because it represents a certain type of mindset prevalent especially in NYC, middle class Black folks in my experience do not hesitate to talk about "Privilege" in various forms but act oblivious to the ways in which being middle class has it's perks and makes for a very different "Black experience" in comparison to poor Black folks. Pieces like the one I put up are rare and I give the writer props for being so blunt throughout, because many Black pundits will have no problems talking about colorism, racism, and every other ism under the sun but then get real uncomfortable when it comes to discussing classism and all that comes with it within the Black community.

If we wiped out upper class blacks would that alleviate your concern?

 

[ogc163]

If we wiped out upper class blacks would that alleviate your concern?

As long as we got to keep the redbone curly haired mullato sistah's that are so prevalent among them.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

About to head out and I'll have a longer post on it, but overall yeah I still think it's gentrification if middle class Black people move into a poor latino/black community. You can't have it both ways imo, constantly pointing out the class issues inherent in the discussion of gentrification but then hiding behind race when it is your own folks doing it. That is the reason I highlighted that statement because it represents a certain type of mindset prevalent especially in NYC, middle class Black folks in my experience do not hesitate to talk about "Privilege" in various forms but act oblivious to the ways in which being middle class has it's perks and makes for a very different "Black experience" in comparison to poor Black folks. Pieces like the one I put up are rare and I give the writer props for being so blunt throughout, because many Black pundits will have no problems talking about colorism, racism, and every other ism under the sun but then get real uncomfortable when it comes to discussing classism and all that comes with it within the Black community.

I wonder how much @NYC Rebel paid for his BK spot, who lived there before him and if he has any tenants there now

How much $$$ would it take for him to rent to one of the "BK noobs" he continually claims to be the scourge of his beloved

 

[NYC Rebel]

I wonder how much @NYC Rebel paid for his BK spot, who lived there before him and if he has any tenants there now

How much $$$ would it take for him to rent to one of the "BK noobs" he continually claims to be the scourge of his beloved

You still mad that I called you out for being on of those cornballs who think my old neighborhood wasn't beautiful until you showed up and all that was there was crime
I called the newbies unfriendly...you in turn acted like a cracka and pulled out crime statistics.

The irony is that my wife and I driving through Ft. Greene on Sunday actually talked about moving there and went home looking at the price listings for a house out there. Way out of our price range

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

You still mad that I called you out for being on of those cornballs who think my old neighborhood wasn't beautiful until you showed up and all that was there was crime
I called the newbies unfriendly...you in turn acted like a cracka and pulled out crime statistics.

The irony is that my wife and I driving through Ft. Greene on Sunday actually talked about moving there and went home looking at the price listings for a house out there. Way out of our price range

Theres only 1 dude in this whole thread who's mad. I'm not the one. And you don't want to talk crime statistics because that flies in the face of your "Old BK >>>>>>>>> New BK" theory. Youve been this whole thread

 

[Captain Crunch]

You talking Spanish Harlem?...if so, I was out there on Saturday. Everyone out there look like they have a disease. Its like 6 or 7 blocks of straight projects. Area straight up seems like they stopped advancing after 1996.

It ain't that bad bruh :jayshrug:
W/ that said, 125th and Lexington at night though
You ain't gonna get got or nothing, but it's a lotta addicts over there.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Theres only 1 dude in this whole thread who's mad. I'm not the one. And you don't want to talk crime statistics because that flies in the face of your "Old BK >>>>>>>>> New BK" theory. Youve been this whole thread

Mad? At what? I can talk about crime as well as the BEAUTY that lived there during my time...a beauty you think didn't exist until people like you moved there. Sorry...but our experiences of enjoying each others company wasn't limited to "hanging on the corner."

Whose mad? I can walk into 95 South, know no one and not cry about being mistreated. You just aren't comfortable being around "those" type of negroes you obviously didn't grow up around.


My biggest issue about the neighborhood was the city's unwillingness to invest into the people in those neighborhoods. You have folks like David Dinkins and Charlie Rangal that acted as subcontractors for real estate forecasters by playing a role in stopping the investment of the people that long lived there only to make way for new folks coming in. I'm going to feel a sort of way about that, because the few times I did see an actual investment put into the people, it succeeds.
Stunning Regents reversal: Students at Brownsville transfer school soared on state exams, besting some of city's top scorers - m.NYPOST.com

You'd call em "Street corner" folks...I call them worthy of pouring stock into.

 

[ogc163]

Confessions of a Black D.C. Gentrifier - Washington City Paper

 

[NYC Rebel]

I honestly like seeing black middle class folks move back into these neighborhoods. It's actually good for kids to have a black lawyer or doctor living up the block from them. Problem is, they're moving into these neighborhoods at the expense of them.

 

[ogc163]

I honestly like seeing black middle class folks move back into these neighborhoods. It's actually good for kids to have a black lawyer or doctor living up the block from them. Problem is, they're moving into these neighborhoods at the expense of them.

As I said several times before I have no major beef with gentrification in general, but it's just the way middle class Black folks discuss the issue at times be having me like For example there is this Black middle class filmmaker who is EXTRA militant on twitter and calls white hipster gentrifiers "neo-colonizers" when discussing BK and yet this person isn't even from NYC/BK and is also a gentrifier

 

[bouncy]

You still mad that I called you out for being on of those cornballs who think my old neighborhood wasn't beautiful until you showed up and all that was there was crime
I called the newbies unfriendly...you in turn acted like a cracka and pulled out crime statistics.

The irony is that my wife and I driving through Ft. Greene on Sunday actually talked about moving there and went home looking at the price listings for a house out there. Way out of our price range

If you're talking about Crown Heights, yeah it was cool to me. Yeah, it had some issues, but it was cool. I remember when Fish & Soul was there, and that shyt was soooo good. Besides the old fish & Chips spot on Atlantic Avenue, that was my favorite fish joint.

 

[NYC Rebel]

If you're talking about Crown Heights, yeah it was cool to me. Yeah, it had some issues, but it was cool. I remember when Fish & Soul was there, and that shyt was soooo good. Besides the old fish & Chips spot on Atlantic Avenue, that was my favorite fish joint.

Crown Heights was great.

I wonder if they still have old timers day at St. John's rec.

 

[Lewis Black]

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