My NYC Black Folk......Gentrification

[Francis White]

There are hipsters in Queens Village now. My aunt lives on Hillside and I've been seeing these young cac hipster types walking their dogs in the middle of the day every time I go over there. It's a working class neighborhood. I've never seen any white people over there besides older Russians and Italians who've been there for decades. Now it's real hipsters living somewhere over there. There's no new condos or developments in that area that I know of so they're either buying or owners are renting to them.

That's true the West Indians are renting to them now since rents went up.

 

[360dagod]

Is the bronx grand concourse area around Yankee stadium starting to get gentrified yet. Haven't been there in like 2 years but it was on its way up when I left

the africans are all around there...

but the cacs are like bed bugs though..you never see them until see one

 

[360dagod]

it's over brehs. Only a matter of time before these nikkas reach Tremont.

Cacs already splattered in the Fordham area...And im not even talking about the Fordham U area...

they building joints on tremont across from frank's sport shop...

You already know who moving there

 

[Bawon Samedi]

While I agree that gentrification is very bad. I think there is an over-exaggeration that blacks NYC are completely getting pushed out to a point that blacks in NYC will be extinct. I was in Manhattan recently again and I still seen plenty of black and Hispanics(Puerto Ricans/Dominicans) in Manhattan and the "wealthy areas" mind you... As for Queens, don't even get me started.

Yes, blacks are getting priced out and losing some of their neighborhoods, but not to a point of being extinct. The well off blacks stayed put.

Also can we PLEASE stop overrating Asians and acting like gentrification is ONLY happening to blacks!!!! Chinatown in Manhattan is getting gentrified like crazy, there are even articles about it. So much for that group economic talk. Also "traditional" New York City ethnic groups like Italians are also getting pushed out and are moving to counties outside of NYC like where I live.

 

[BigMan]

While I agree that gentrification is very bad. I think there is an over-exaggeration that blacks NYC are completely getting pushed out to a point that blacks in NYC will be extinct. I was in Manhattan recently again and I still seen plenty of black and Hispanics(Puerto Ricans/Dominicans) in Manhattan and the "wealthy areas" mind you... As for Queens, don't even get me started.

Yes, blacks are getting priced out and losing some of their neighborhoods, but not to a point of being extinct. The well off blacks stayed put.

Also can we PLEASE stop overrating Asians and acting like gentrification is ONLY happening to blacks!!!! Chinatown in Manhattan is getting gentrified like crazy, there are even articles about it. So much for that group economic talk. Also "traditional" New York City ethnic groups like Italians are also getting pushed out and are moving to counties outside of NYC like where I live.

youre correct the first places to get gentrified are actually white working class places. the black population in NYC is changing but its not this drastic drop like in other cities. plenty black people own and plenty black people are moving into NYC (and the surrounding areas). however, there is a trend (as it is nationwide) that blacks are moving to the suburbs and AAs are leaving NYC (for the suburbs, PA, the south etc). NYC still has 2 million blacks; more than any other city

 

[Bawon Samedi]

youre correct the first places to get gentrified are actually white working class places. the black population in NYC is changing but its not this drastic drop like in other cities. plenty black people own and plenty black people are moving into NYC (and the surrounding areas). however, there is a trend (as it is nationwide) that blacks are moving to the suburbs and AAs are leaving NYC (for the suburbs, PA, the south etc). NYC still has 2 million blacks; more than any other city

Exactly. And like you even state many people also forget that many blacks are too moving to NYC, especially Caribbean migrants. And yeah blacks are moving to the suburbs nationwide, but either way if almost all the blacks in NYC leave the city to live in the metro area like Nyack or parts of Westchester, then I don't see that as a bad thing. Westchestor and Nyack(which is apart of my county) are RIGHT NEXT TO NYC and so they can easily commute to NYC if they have a job there. For all I care let the stupid midwestern yuppie whites pay the very expensive rent and live in a small as apartments, while we(whether we live in NY or NJ state) live in the nice suburbs with houses that are cheaper, while also being near the valuable jobs in the city.

NJ transit anyone?

Hell, even this educator that is helping with my college education said that some of the people who work in the Film and Media industry in NYC do their work in the city, but have families in and live in counties outside of NYC like my own county Rockland.

And yes white working class areas are indeed the first to go(look at Little Italy), but it doesn't seem as "obvious" because its whites pushing out whites.

 

[BigMan]

Exactly. And like you even state many people also forget that many blacks are too moving to NYC, especially Caribbean migrants. And yeah blacks are moving to the suburbs nationwide, but either way if almost all the blacks in NYC leave the city to live in the metro area like Nyack or parts of Westchester, then I don't see that as a bad thing. Westchestor and Nyack(which is apart of my county) are RIGHT NEXT TO NYC and so they can easily commute to NYC if they have a job there. For all I care let the stupid midwestern yuppie whites pay the very expensive rent and live in a small as apartments, while we(whether we live in NY or NJ state) live in the nice suburbs with houses that are cheaper, while also being near the valuable jobs in the city.

NJ transit anyone?

Hell, even this educator that is helping with my college education said that some of the people who work in the Film and Media industry in NYC do their work in the city, but have families in and live in counties outside of NYC like my own county Rockland.

And yes white working class areas are indeed the first to go(look at Little Italy), but it doesn't seem as "obvious" because its whites pushing out whites.

we need to own tho
I think African immigration is picking up and West Indians are starting to bypass NYC for other places (depends on the country of course)

 

[DoubleClutch]

the africans are all around there...

but the cacs are like bed bugs though..you never see them until see one

Yea I've seen them but Can black people even gentrify?

 

[360dagod]

Yea I've seen them but Can black people even gentrify?

We had Harlem until they let Clinton in

 

[Apollo Creed]

we need to own tho
I think African immigration is picking up and West Indians are starting to bypass NYC for other places (depends on the country of course)

Is there any truth to "hipster" and "yuppie" black millennials moving to Harlem in solid numbers like you see in say DC?

 

[BigMan]

Is there any truth to "hipster" and "yuppie" black millennials moving to Harlem in solid numbers like you see in say DC?

hipster? nah, artisty people move to Brooklyn or downtown . yuppie/middle class blacks ? yeah. a lot of middle class blacks (me included) are attracted to Harlem for the history and the fact that the rest of Manhattan is so damn expensive. there's a number of articles online about black gentrifiers in Harlem

 

[Apollo Creed]

hipster? nah, artisty people move to Brooklyn or downtown . yuppie/middle class blacks ? yeah. a lot of middle class blacks (me included) are attracted to Harlem for the history and the fact that the rest of Manhattan is so damn expensive. there's a number of articles online about black gentrifiers in Harlem

Are these people renting or buying in Harlem? When I looked up real estate Harlem seemed up there, but I would assume the salaries of the middle class blacks correlate enough to at least be able to afford rent.

 

[BigMan]

Are these people renting or buying in Harlem? When I looked up real estate Harlem seemed up there, but I would assume the salaries of the middle class blacks correlate enough to at least be able to afford rent.

I'm not too sure tbh . Ownership rates are very low in manhattan in general and even lower for blacks. Manhattan is not my strong point

@SJUGrad13 might know more

 

[Anerdyblackguy]

Are these people renting or buying in Harlem? When I looked up real estate Harlem seemed up there, but I would assume the salaries of the middle class blacks correlate enough to at least be able to afford rent.

It's mostly renters. Even the white people rent more than own. Harlem houses prices ( especially central Harlem), can go for a million.

But to be fair, you can buy a good size apartment ( 2br+) in Harlem for. Very affordable price. The black people who work in Manhattan have the money, it's their call how they spend it.

 

[2manyFCKNrappers]

While I agree that gentrification is very bad. I think there is an over-exaggeration that blacks NYC are completely getting pushed out to a point that blacks in NYC will be extinct. I was in Manhattan recently again and I still seen plenty of black and Hispanics(Puerto Ricans/Dominicans) in Manhattan and the "wealthy areas" mind you... As for Queens, don't even get me started.

Yes, blacks are getting priced out and losing some of their neighborhoods, but not to a point of being extinct. The well off blacks stayed put.

Also can we PLEASE stop overrating Asians and acting like gentrification is ONLY happening to blacks!!!! Chinatown in Manhattan is getting gentrified like crazy, there are even articles about it. So much for that group economic talk. Also "traditional" New York City ethnic groups like Italians are also getting pushed out and are moving to counties outside of NYC like where I live.

Obviously. But how many "well of" blacks make up the true culture of NYC? There aren't many affluent blacks living in NYC and they damn sure don't give a fukk what's going on with the lower classes.