My NYC Black Folk......Gentrification

[Neuromancer]

Where the blacks going if the rents too high?

I live in a house my family owns.

 

[ZoeGod]

Quoted just so everyone can read this again. We can't make this same mistake in the south....

I live near BK chinatown in Sunset park. Them Asians are working behind the scenes aND aren't gonna get gentrified out. They own the 8th ave buisness district with an iron fist. In the south black folks need to adopt what the Asians did up here.

 

[MajorVitaman]

I live near BK chinatown in Sunset park. Them Asians are working behind the scenes aND aren't gonna get gentrified out. They own the 8th ave buisness district with an iron fist. In the south black folks need to adopt what the Asians did up here.

I was just in NYC recently, it brings me down to think about former black strong holds in the country getting gentrified so quickly.

 

[capblk]

Anthony Gurino, of Tahoe Development, has decided to make the project in Mott Haven entirely market-rate, joining the ranks of a few other ambitious projects in this industrial neighborhood.

This is, of course, because the 421-a tax exemption disappeared in January. Without the tax break, the owner can’t afford to rent any apartments for below-market rates. The size of the building has also shrunk, because it would have gotten a floor area bonus for the affordable units. The height has dropped from 10 stories to seven, and the residential space has been reduced from 47,000 to 33,000 square feet.

Reveal for 221 East 138th Street, Market-Rate Apartments in Mott Haven - New York YIMBY

 

[Street Knowledge]

South Bronx Gets High-End Coffee; Is Gentrification Next?

 

[newworldafro]

I was just in NYC recently, it brings me down to think about former black strong holds in the country getting gentrified so quickly.

It's simple.............................................sorta....................................black middle class leaves urban neighborhoods because of violence, "bad" schools, more diverse shopping amenities in the suburbs......................................whites enter EXACT SAME neighborhood, set up businesses, send their kids to charter/private schools, and walk their dogs in the same neighborhoods.

There are other factors at play too, not that naive, but it's still .

I've said it before 3rd Ward and 4th Ward Houston use to be black strongholds, but now the former is like where the Bronx was 5 years ago, and latter is mostly Hispanic and lots of abandoned buildings, vacant lots. Black folks left for "greener" pastures, both middle class and lower income. Whites and other gentrifiers are coming in slowly, but showly.

I've also said it before, I like fresh/renewed/revamped neighborhoods and bright shiny objects, that gentrification seems to bring, especially in older urban cities.......I'm just somewhat dismayed that black neighborhoods loose their............"soul"...because of it, instead of black middle class "soul" returning......out of my hands. Without actual grassroots "community economic development", which as has been stated the Chinese do really well, then pure capitalism wins. Capitalism is at play here, whoever, can pay back the most in taxes, apparently wins, unless there is government interference to be inclusive of a vast range of income levels....sometimes "lower income" can used as a trojan horse itself.

 

[DoubleClutch]

Is the bronx grand concourse area around Yankee stadium starting to get gentrified yet. Haven't been there in like 2 years but it was on its way up when I left

 

[GunRanger]

There's a Starbucks on Flatbush Avenue now lol, in Midwood I think

flatbush and kings hwy? That's not really gentrified. It's always been mixed. I think it's ballsy they put that shyt right across from the dunkin donuts/baskin robbins. Motherfukkers were like " we got a drive thru too"


There always was the starbucks on hillel by brooklyn college too.

 

[SmoothOperator88]

It's simple.............................................sorta....................................black middle class leaves urban neighborhoods because of violence, "bad" schools, more diverse shopping amenities in the suburbs......................................whites enter EXACT SAME neighborhood, set up businesses, send their kids to charter/private schools, and walk their dogs in the same neighborhoods.

There are other factors at play too, not that naive, but it's still .

I've said it before 3rd Ward and 4th Ward Houston use to be black strongholds, but now the former is like where the Bronx was 5 years ago, and latter is mostly Hispanic and lots of abandoned buildings, vacant lots. Black folks left for "greener" pastures, both middle class and lower income. Whites and other gentrifiers are coming in slowly, but showly.

I've also said it before, I like fresh/renewed/revamped neighborhoods and bright shiny objects, that gentrification seems to bring, especially in older urban cities.......I'm just somewhat dismayed that black neighborhoods loose their............"soul"...because of it, instead of black middle class "soul" returning......out of my hands. Without actual grassroots "community economic development", which as has been stated the Chinese do really well, then pure capitalism wins. Capitalism is at play here, whoever, can pay back the most in taxes, apparently wins, unless there is government interference to be inclusive of a vast range of income levels....sometimes "lower income" can used as a trojan horse itself.

And then after the neighborhood turns around, the schools get rezoned, the demographics of the public schools change drastically (both racially and economically) and a "bad" school becomes a "good" school.

Long, but great read about a one black family in Brooklyn and the politics of the schools.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/m...ool-for-my-daughter-in-a-segregated-city.html

 

[mson]

And then after the neighborhood turns around, the schools get rezoned, the demographics of the public schools change drastically (both racially and economically) and a "bad" school becomes a "good" school.

Long, but great read about a one black family in Brooklyn and the politics of the schools.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/m...ool-for-my-daughter-in-a-segregated-city.html

Great article. Worthy of its own thread.

 

[Cave Savage]

flatbush and kings hwy? That's not really gentrified. It's always been mixed. I think it's ballsy they put that shyt right across from the dunkin donuts/baskin robbins. Motherfukkers were like " we got a drive thru too"


There always was the starbucks on hillel by brooklyn college too.

Yeah I know it's not gentrified, my point is it's not just hipsters or yuppies that like Starbucks, it's no different than McDonald's being there.

 

[GunRanger]

She loves Flatbush. It is “extremely diverse — culturally, ethnically, economically,” she said. “I live at this interesting five-point intersection, which I feel is sort of a metaphor for the neighborhood. Brooklyn College is a block away, and the campus and iconic clock tower is beautiful. Tree-lined streets on all the surrounding blocks. The newly renovated Kings Theater is nearby, and Target a five-minute walk. Oh, and delicious roti everywhere!”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/realestate/new-yorks-next-hot-neighborhoods.html?_r=0

 

[capblk]

Renderings revealed for the Bronx’s Universal Hip-Hop Museum

 

[No Homo]

She loves Flatbush. It is “extremely diverse — culturally, ethnically, economically,” she said. “I live at this interesting five-point intersection, which I feel is sort of a metaphor for the neighborhood. Brooklyn College is a block away, and the campus and iconic clock tower is beautiful. Tree-lined streets on all the surrounding blocks. The newly renovated Kings Theater is nearby, and Target a five-minute walk. Oh, and delicious roti everywhere!”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/realestate/new-yorks-next-hot-neighborhoods.html?_r=0

I told nikkaz this was coming

 

[2manyFCKNrappers]

Right by the housing court. Go and check there are no hipsters , it's Asian ask other posters on here who live in the area. They have the spots on lock now. It's a little to far for hipsters or people with money to live when you can live closer to a fairway or Trader Joes.

There are hipsters in Queens Village now. My aunt lives on Hillside and I've been seeing these young cac hipster types walking their dogs in the middle of the day every time I go over there. It's a working class neighborhood. I've never seen any white people over there besides older Russians and Italians who've been there for decades. Now it's real hipsters living somewhere over there. There's no new condos or developments in that area that I know of so they're either buying or owners are renting to them.