My NYC Black Folk......Gentrification

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

Here's thing thing I think of in regards to NYC.

92% of people in this city rent
8% own.

More than likely the 8% that own property in this city control the property of 92% that rent.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[GoPro]

Soon the West Indian day parade is gonna be the Midwesterner Day parade.

 

[bouncy]

Soon the West Indian day parade is gonna be the Midwesterner Day parade.

Nah, the black/latin man will always be good entertainment(food, music, sexy women) in the U.S.A

 

[bouncy]

What happened to Spanish people in the Lower Eastside? They are being pushed out as well. Asians have an economic base and actually own sh!t, that is why get you can't get rid of a Chinatown, but its very easy to get rid of a Blacktown.

Yeah, Francis White is speaking half truths. Caribbean people are being effected just like black Americans. Just because they don't talk with an accent doesn't mean they are black american descent. NYC is full of west indians. Latins are feeling the pain of gentrification also. Why is he picking on just black americans, IDK?

A lot, if not most, of the buildings are in NYC are not owned by either group but by white jews. They always had the real estate game on lock. A lot of asians got the game on lock also BUT, it would be stupid to have them ran out because, Chinatowns bring money to the cities in all of the country being that they are a tourists attraction. If they didn't, they can EASILY be pushed out because, they are so small in numbers, which means they don't own that much compared to how much people they make up in population.

 

[chineebai]

Yeah, Francis White is speaking half truths. Caribbean people are being effected just like black Americans. Just because they don't talk with an accent doesn't mean they are black american descent. NYC is full of west indians. Latins are feeling the pain of gentrification also. Why is he picking on just black americans, IDK?

A lot, if not most, of the buildings are in NYC are not owned by either group but by white jews. They always had the real estate game on lock. A lot of asians got the game on lock also BUT, it would be stupid to have them ran out because, Chinatowns bring money to the cities in all of the country being that they are a tourists attraction. If they didn't, they can EASILY be pushed out because, they are so small in numbers, which means they don't own that much compared to how much people they make up in population.

Growing up on the lower east side, chinatown has always been a place that was a no gringo zone. You would be so amazed at a white person walking on grand st or some shyt. Nowadays most of my friends that grew up in chinatown, 99% of them all went to brooklyn and queens. Chinatown is not a place for you to live in, it's cramped, dirty, and a lot of rats. Most businesses in chinatown are still majority chinese owned though and that's because there's still a huge chinese population supporting those businesses. Even though people don't live in chinatown anymore, they still go there for food and shopping. My elementary school and junior high school had like 2 white kids each, it was rare. Another reason chinatown haven't been fully gentrified is because of the constant stream of immigrants. First cantonese people moved out of chinatown into brooklyn and queens, then the fujianese people moved into chinatown, and that's what you have now, at least half of chinatown is fujianese if not more. A lot of the building owners are also chinese.

 

[Marvel]

Yeah, Francis White is speaking half truths. Caribbean people are being effected just like black Americans. Just because they don't talk with an accent doesn't mean they are black american descent. NYC is full of west indians. Latins are feeling the pain of gentrification also. Why is he picking on just black americans, IDK?

A lot, if not most, of the buildings are in NYC are not owned by either group but by white jews. They always had the real estate game on lock. A lot of asians got the game on lock also BUT, it would be stupid to have them ran out because, Chinatowns bring money to the cities in all of the country being that they are a tourists attraction. If they didn't, they can EASILY be pushed out because, they are so small in numbers, which means they don't own that much compared to how much people they make up in population.

True, just like you said Chinatown is a tourist attraction and we also got to consider that people are coming from China buying up property all over America. I have never seen a Chinatown fall off. Come to Houston and see how Asians have the game on smash. They got there own everything. I am talking a huge area of SW Houston on lock and key. They got their own banks, law firms, companies, etc. So instead of going to a white bank to try and open up a business, they go to their own bank and make more money and continue growing. Their money circulates 10 times over before they go elsewhere. They will let our black asses spend money there and even buy their hoes, but you will never get a job or start a business as a black man in Chinatown.

 

[Marvel]

Growing up on the lower east side, chinatown has always been a place that was a no gringo zone. You would be so amazed at a white person walking on grand st or some shyt. Nowadays most of my friends that grew up in chinatown, 99% of them all went to brooklyn and queens. Chinatown is not a place for you to live in, it's cramped, dirty, and a lot of rats. Most businesses in chinatown are still majority chinese owned though and that's because there's still a huge chinese population supporting those businesses. Even though people don't live in chinatown anymore, they still go there for food and shopping. My elementary school and junior high school had like 2 white kids each, it was rare. Another reason chinatown haven't been fully gentrified is because of the constant stream of immigrants. First cantonese people moved out of chinatown into brooklyn and queens, then the fujianese people moved into chinatown, and that's what you have now, at least half of chinatown is fujianese if not more. A lot of the building owners are also chinese.

Good observation. That is the same here in Houston...Asian move to Chinatown to get their money up then move to Bellaire or the suburbs outside of Houston. But those same people that move out always come back and spend money there or continue their businesses there. Nobody ever really lives in Chinatown. Its a spot to do business in away from the other communities. These people even got Asian street signs. White people are not stopping them, so why are we stopping ourselves?

 

[bouncy]

Growing up on the lower east side, chinatown has always been a place that was a no gringo zone. You would be so amazed at a white person walking on grand st or some shyt. Nowadays most of my friends that grew up in chinatown, 99% of them all went to brooklyn and queens. Chinatown is not a place for you to live in, it's cramped, dirty, and a lot of rats. Most businesses in chinatown are still majority chinese owned though and that's because there's still a huge chinese population supporting those businesses. Even though people don't live in chinatown anymore, they still go there for food and shopping. My elementary school and junior high school had like 2 white kids each, it was rare. Another reason chinatown haven't been fully gentrified is because of the constant stream of immigrants. First cantonese people moved out of chinatown into brooklyn and queens, then the fujianese people moved into chinatown, and that's what you have now, at least half of chinatown is fujianese if not more. A lot of the building owners are also chinese.

Yeah, I don't know how asians do it. I had a friend who lived in a CRAMPED apartment, but they made it work for the time being. I will always give them props for coming up out of that. I have seen some lofts for sale in the area that are BANGING, so they are seeing a change also. Those lofts go into the MILLIONS.

When I stated it's a tourists area, a lot of the extra income is from people who aren't asian. When you want to get some knockoffs you go to chinatown. Plus, if you want a city that is supposed to have the look of being cultural you need a chinatown, it's a necessity in any major city, but like I stated they can take it over if they wanted to being that it's not enough asians with power in the city(manhattan) to stop it. If anything they could find a way to send the Asians to queens where they are building a strong hold, and take back chinatwon. All they have to do is play trickery on the buidling codes BUT, like I stated it won't be good for image, and money.

 

[chineebai]

Good observation. That is the same here in Houston...Asian move to Chinatown to get their money up then move to Bellaire or the suburbs outside of Houston. But those same people that move out always come back and spend money there or continue their businesses there. Nobody ever really lives in Chinatown. Its a spot to do business in away from the other communities. These people even got Asian street signs. White people are not stopping them, so why are we stopping ourselves?

I think that asian business stick to their own, hire their own, and reinvest that money back in the community by opening up more businesses, hiring more of their own, and also asians save money like nobody's businesses. Most asians that come to this country are broke, can't even speak english, and a lot of them owe 10s of thousands to gangs that got them here if they came illegally. One thing is that asians have very strong family bonds, family that will get them a job, help feed them and house them. They have a long term outlook on life, they are willing to suffer by having a shytty job, haivng a shytty place to live in, but eventually they save enough money, open up their own businesses, moving to a nice house, and buying up property.

 

[Captain Crunch]

I think that asian business stick to their own, hire their own, and reinvest that money back in the community by opening up more businesses, hiring more of their own, and also asians save money like nobody's businesses. Most asians that come to this country are broke, can't even speak english, and a lot of them owe 10s of thousands to gangs that got them here if they came illegally. One thing is that asians have very strong family bonds, family that will get them a job, help feed them and house them. They have a long term outlook on life, they are willing to suffer by having a shytty job, haivng a shytty place to live in, but eventually they save enough money, open up their own businesses, moving to a nice house, and buying up property.

Group economics
But fukk it, who here in NY actually wants to take action, so we can get our own businesses/schools/political influence? If so, PM me.

 

[chineebai]

Yeah, I don't know how asians do it. I had a friend who lived in a CRAMPED apartment, but they made it work for the time being. I will always give them props for coming up out of that. I have seen some lofts for sale in the area that are BANGING, so they are seeing a change also. Those lofts go into the MILLIONS.

When I stated it's a tourists area, a lot of the extra income is from people who aren't asian. When you want to get some knockoffs you go to chinatown. Plus, if you want a city that is supposed to have the look of being cultural you need a chinatown, it's a necessity in any major city, but like I stated they can take it over if they wanted to being that it's not enough asians in the city(manhattan) to stop it. If anything they could find a way to send the Asians to queens where they are building a strong hold, and take back chinatwon. All they have to do is play trickery on the buidling codes BUT, like I stated it won't be good for image, and money.

I don't think they can ever take chinatown unless they tear down every building. Most of the buildings in chinatown are chinese owned. Chinatown wasn't the tourist attraction it is now, before the early to mid 2000s, chinatown was just a community with a ton of businesses, and a ton of chinese people living there. For example, only canal st, like maybe 6 blocks of it has tourist dollars, and maybe parts of mott and mulberry. Most chinese people that lives in chinatown don't even live around those areas. If you go to another part of chinatown such as East Broadway, all you see are chinese owned businesses, chinese tenants, chinese everything, and east broadway is actually on the border of the lower east side where it is desirable, 15 min walk to the seaport, trains near by, amazing view, etc.It's all about keeping it in the community.

 

[bouncy]

I don't think they can ever take chinatown unless they tear down every building. Most of the buildings in chinatown are chinese owned. Chinatown wasn't the tourist attraction it is now, before the early to mid 2000s, chinatown was just a community with a ton of businesses, and a ton of chinese people living there. For example, only canal st, like maybe 6 blocks of it has tourist dollars, and maybe parts of mott and mulberry. Most chinese people that lives in chinatown don't even live around those areas. If you go to another part of chinatown such as East Broadway, all you see are chinese owned businesses, chinese tenants, chinese everything, and east broadway is actually on the border of the lower east side where it is desirable, 15 min walk to the seaport, trains near by, amazing view, etc.It's all about keeping it in the community.

@chineebai DAMN, you're right. I forgot about those areas.

Yeah, it is about keeping in the community!

How much of having your own language and pride in your own food, do you think plays a part in Asians being able to keep everything together in their community?.

I have a theory that the reason why blacks, and some west indians(exlcuding hatians), don't do as much as we can is because we don't have our own language which means we can't communicate in secrecy to get things done. We also have been conditioned to hate our food, instead of being taught to use better ingredients, and opted to eat the dominant societies food that is considered healthy. With no personal language and food, we have no foundation, and can get easily fooled.

When you look back when blacks had more ownership, we had our own code of speech, and were proud of our food. Terms such as reefer, rock'n'roll, cool were slang started by blacks, then adopted by whites who took, and now we see it as their slang. I think these two things(food,language) play a big part in our demise.

 

[Francis White]

@chineebai DAMN, you're right. I forgot about those areas.

Yeah, it is about keeping in the community!

How much of having your own language and pride in your own food, do you think plays a part in Asians being able to keep everything together in their community?.

I have a theory that the reason why blacks, and some west indians(exlcuding hatians), don't do as much as we can is because we don't have our own language which means we can't communicate in secrecy to get things done. We also have been conditioned to hate our food, instead of being taught to use better ingredients, and opted to eat the dominant societies food that is considered healthy. With no personal language and food, we have no foundation, and can get easily fooled.

When you look back when blacks had more ownership, we had our own code of speech, and were proud of our food. Terms such as reefer, rock'n'roll, cool were slang started by blacks, then adopted by whites who took, and now we see it as their slang. I think these two things(food,language) play a big part in our demise.

What is the dominant society food? You say we are taught to hate our own food. What is that exactly ? When you break it down it just ingredients and meat cooked the way you prefer. Food is food nothing more or less. If eating less fatty food or sweets is wrong and against society or eating in moderation is that against society? I mean if blacks liked cooking noodles and vegetables with potatoes instead of celery and corn is that wrong? The food means nothing people can cook it or prepare anyway you like. That is not a problem for society.

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

@chineebai DAMN, you're right. I forgot about those areas.

Yeah, it is about keeping in the community!

How much of having your own language and pride in your own food, do you think plays a part in Asians being able to keep everything together in their community?.

I have a theory that the reason why blacks, and some west indians(exlcuding hatians), don't do as much as we can is because we don't have our own language which means we can't communicate in secrecy to get things done. We also have been conditioned to hate our food, instead of being taught to use better ingredients, and opted to eat the dominant societies food that is considered healthy. With no personal language and food, we have no foundation, and can get easily fooled.

When you look back when blacks had more ownership, we had our own code of speech, and were proud of our food. Terms such as reefer, rock'n'roll, cool were slang started by blacks, then adopted by whites who took, and now we see it as their slang. I think these two things(food,language) play a big part in our demise.

As a West Indian (half) myself, I've always noticed that they tend to have more of an identity and have strong family values and work ethics. Most that come from there don't have much to go on when they move to America other than close ties with family and community. They move to cities like New York and bring their family from there over here.

But you also have to consider all of the historical financial roadblocks, social roadblocks, and educational road blocks that black people colectively have had to face in this country. Africans and West Indians might have community ties, class pull, and education in some circumstances...but still are pulled and are assimilated into the mass of the Black American society in the sight of the dominant society. We may have our distinct culture and our distinct identities, but it's not like we have collective wealth. It's a trip from third world to first world.

I think alot of it has to do with the welfare/project culture in America. It's conditioned black folks to be complacent and aspire for less when it's all provided by the government. I see a change in the younger black generations that are going to college and making money in the corporate world who are able to parlay that money into a successful bussiness or property ownership, but for the most part college is still unattainable to black folks financially on a collective level without grants and whatnot. But I guess that's the result of no collective wealth kept in the community to go around.

 

[bouncy]

What is the dominant society food? You say we are taught to hate our own food. What is that exactly ? When you break it down it just ingredients and meat cooked the way you prefer. Food is food nothing more or less. If eating less fatty food or sweets is wrong and against society or eating in moderation is that against society? I mean if blacks liked cooking noodles and vegetables with potatoes instead of celery and corn is that wrong? The food means nothing people can cook it or prepare anyway you like. That is not a problem for society.

When dominant society says eat healthy, they mention foods like soul food as a bad food, while theirs which is low in fat, meduim carbs, medium protein is good BUT, this is wrong. Soul food is a healthy food. The greens are good for you once you take away the extra salt the pork brings. the corn bread is a good source of niacin, and carbohydrates. The saturated fat is not bad for you when you consider it's being eaten with a leafy vegetable. Iron needs saturated fat to be absorbed efficiently. The macaroni & cheese is good for you also. The organ meats are really good for you. Rice is good as it fills you up good. The extra sweet drinks need to be better though, as all that sugar is no good BUT, sweet lemon tea IS good for you. The lemon provides vitamin C, limonene, and phytonutrients from the black tea. Fried chicken is actually not that bad since when cooked properly it absorbs very little of the fat that it is cooked in. When you eat all of this together, they become even more powerful then when eaten on thier own at different times. The seafood we eat is also good, as it helps keep the brain healthy. I recognize all of this, and I'm a vegetarian so I am not being biased just because I'm black. When blacks get a good job, some education, and a better life, the first thing they do is abandon this way of eating as they look down on it, instead of looking at the ingredients and using higher quality versions. As well as do more physical exercise, and not just running.The issue is when you eat big meals all day, and no physical exercise(resistance training, and cardio).

Why do you think black people had so much hair when we ate properly, yet women now are struggling to grow their hair?. They are eating foods that are not nutrient dense. The foods we are told to eat are not really that good unless they are ethnic foods such as italian or asian and even then italian is not the best since it has too much dairy and that isn't good for your health when used too much. Whites are feeling the pain from this misinformation also because, eating the way we are told is not good for their skin, and leaves them susceptible to skin cancer. It isn't a coincidence skin cancer is on the rise with them!

Do you know how many blacks eat margarine because they think butter is bad, when we now know butter is real good for you, and margarine is HORRIBLE? Margarine fukks up your cell membrane and makes it hard for nutrients to get absorbed. Imagine how much of our health issues are coming from that ALONE.
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