My hitta, fk what cha say, ain't no mo playin GA! The official Atlanta Hawks 21-22 Thread

[Rickdogg44]

Imagine a 2nd year player who hadn’t proven anything and is always hurt being a entitled diva

I agree with this. Create different perspective now. He has the talent. That diva shyt before proving anything

Just need that mamba mentality work ethic

 

[deeman]

And people forget the reason he dropped so far in the draft was because scouts said he had no heart and was lackadaisical. The only reason we were excited about him was because he was a name pretty much and we liked the idea of him.

Paul George should be offended people ever compared this kid to him honestly.

 

[deeman]

Alright I’m done shytting on dude it’s just basketball and he seemed like a good kid.

I can’t even wish him success because fukk the Knicks. On to the next.

 

[The D-List Vet]

smh they did all this #camfam shyt for him. He probably was a vibe killer in the locker room with everybody knowing he wants to bounce.

made a mistake?

 

[AVXL]

WOW @AVXL come take your victory lap bruh

#ScamFam hurt today

at the next best deal being 2 second round picks from the Lakers

 

[staticshock]

yea he needed to go..he’s out of his damn mind if he thinks he deserved to be the facilitator over one of the top playmakers in the league

 

[AVXL]

yea he needed to go..he’s out of his damn mind if he thinks he deserved to be the facilitator over one of the top playmakers in the league

Bro the more that comes out the more I dislike breh. He was apparently becoming a locker room cancer and a diva and making shyt awkward in the locker room because everyone knew he wanted out. Glad Godfather Schlenk put an end to this nonsense

 

[Hollywood Co]

This is my long rant about the trade and the state of the Hawks right now:


Schlenk hasn’t made a bad decision in his time as GM so I knew when this trade came out that there would be more to the story and now it comes out just hours later.

If Cam wanted a bigger role, he had all the opportunities in the world to prove he was capable of being our 2nd playmaker but he didn’t show the handle or the skill to actually do it so it’s to me.

I’ve been in Twitter spaces saying all day that guys like Cam usually need to bounce from their starting places in the league and go through some things to become the player their talent says they are capable of, much like BI Lonzo and Kuz.

We can talk defense and offense all day but the Hawks have a leadership problem right now. JC is that dude in so many ways but obviously him as our emotional leader ain’t working right now. A vet like Horford would be perfect to help get this team mentally in the right place game to game.

It’s easy to blame Nate for what’s going and he deserves a good bit of it but the problem is a player leadership issue to me

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

This is my long rant about the trade and the state of the Hawks right now:


Schlenk hasn’t made a bad decision in his time as GM so I knew when this trade came out that there would be more to the story and now it comes out just hours later.

If Cam wanted a bigger role, he had all the opportunities in the world to prove he was capable of being our 2nd playmaker but he didn’t show the handle or the skill to actually do it so it’s to me.

I’ve been in Twitter spaces saying all day that guys like Cam usually need to bounce from their starting places in the league and go through some things to become the player their talent says they are capable of, much like BI Lonzo and Kuz.

We can talk defense and offense all day but the Hawks have a leadership problem right now. JC is that dude in so many ways but obviously him as our emotional leader ain’t working right now. A vet like Horford would be perfect to help get this team mentally in the right place game to game.

It’s easy to blame Nate for what’s going and he deserves a good bit of it but the problem is a player leadership issue to me

Nahhhh the bigger issue is that they just don’t have a true #1 option to build around. You can say that Trey is that dude, but his deficiencies make him more suited to be a #2 option and that’s totally okay. A lot dudes in the league are putting up #1 option numbers, but that doesn’t mean that they are a #1 option when it matters the most.

Trey is also going to have to become at least average on defense enough not to be liability on the floor as it’s going to continue holding them back long term even with his offensive prowess. You can ask Dame about that if you don’t believe me as he’s in the exact same situation.

If I were them, I’m scrapping up whatever assets I could find to get me a 1A/1B type player and then building around both him and Trey.

 

[Hollywood Co]

Nahhhh the bigger issue is that they just don’t have a true #1 option to build around. You can say that Trey is that dude, but his deficiencies make him more suited to be a #2 option and that’s totally okay. A lot dudes in the league are putting up #1 option numbers, but that doesn’t mean that they are a #1 option when it matters the most.

Trey is also going to have to become at least average on defense enough not to be liability on the floor as it’s going to continue holding them back long term even with his offensive prowess. You can ask Dame about that if you don’t believe me as he’s in the exact same situation.

If I were them, I’m scrapping up whatever assets I could find to get me a 1A/1B type player and then building around both him and Trey.

Trae showed that isn’t true all 2nd half of last year. Capela played at an all star level last year and has definitely regressed because of that Achilles injury. He made up for a lot of deficiencies with the ability to protect the paint and he’s just not the same player in that regard this year. Very similar to AI and Motombo in Philly. His regression means that other players have had to step up and Trae is only one who consistently has given you more than he did last year.

Everybody else is inconsistent to a frustrating degree and though you talk about Trae being a liability on defense, just go back and watch the Heat game again and you’ll see our perimeter defense is terrible from almost every aspect and we have no rim protection outside of Capela, who again is not playing to the level he was last year.

Bottom line, JC, Bogi, Red Velvet, etc need to step up their games and Dre has to stay healthy. So far this year, they’ve failed to do that. With Capela, it is what it is unfortunately and we severely miss how well he played before that injury.

Trae is a #1 in this league and we don’t have a true #2 but we also don’t have a vet leader to keep this team locked in game to game defensively like a Marcus Smart or PJ Tucker

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Trae showed that isn’t true all 2nd half of last year. Capela played at an all star level last year and has definitely regressed because of that Achilles injury. He made up for a lot of deficiencies with the ability to protect the paint and he’s just not the same player in that regard this year. Very similar to AI and Motombo in Philly. His regression means that other players have had to step up and Trae is only one who consistently has given you more than he did last year.

Everybody else is inconsistent to a frustrating degree and though you talk about Trae being a liability on defense, just go back and watch the Heat game again and you’ll see our perimeter defense is terrible from almost every aspect and we have no rim protection outside of Capela, who again is not playing to the level he was last year.

Bottom line, JC, Bogi, Red Velvet, etc need to step up their games and Dre has to stay healthy. So far this year, they’ve failed to do that. With Capela, it is what it is unfortunately and we severely miss how well he played before that injury.

Trae is a #1 in this league and we don’t have a true #2 but we also don’t have a vet leader to keep this team locked in game to game defensively like a Marcus Smart or PJ Tucker

A true #1 option in this league isn't going to be dependent on other players to mask their deficiencies. It's the same argument we'd say about Dame who is not a #1 on a championship team because he's a defensive liability and you're literally having to bring in guys to mask those issues. That's why I cracked jokes about him wanting to bring in wing defenders when he could help solve some of those issues by becoming above average on defense to not be a liability on the floor.

Calling Trey a #1 is insulting to players like Bron, KD and Giannis who are actually true #1 options and have shown it consistently in elevating the team around them. People throw the world #1 option around too casually when it's levels to it.

 

[staticshock]

A true #1 option in this league isn't going to be dependent on other players to mask their deficiencies. It's the same argument we'd say about Dame who is not a #1 on a championship team because he's a defensive liability and you're literally having to bring in guys to mask those issues. That's why I cracked jokes about him wanting to bring in wing defenders when he could help solve some of those issues by becoming above average on defense to not be a liability on the floor.

Calling Trey a #1 is insulting to players like Bron, KD and Giannis who are actually true #1 options and have shown it consistently in elevating the team around them. People throw the world #1 option around too casually when it's levels to it.

Bruh you don’t think that’s what Trae has been doing?

he absolutely killed teams last season and led us to the ECF. Was a menace against NY & Philly.

this is a silly argument…


I somewhat agree about his defense but he’s so damn small that I don’t think he’ll ever be a good defender. Dudes like Dame, Luka, Cam, Bogie, etc have no excuse with their size. All the coaches can do is scheme the defense to do something about Trae’s defense

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Bruh you don’t think that’s what Trae has been doing?

he absolutely killed teams last season and led us to the ECF. Was a menace against NY & Philly.

this is a silly argument…


I somewhat agree about his defense but he’s so damn small that I don’t think he’ll ever be a good defender. Dudes like Dame, Luka, Cam, Bogie, etc have no excuse with their size. All the coaches can do is scheme the defense to do something about Trae’s defense

Last season is irrelevant to the conversation when the majority of what happened last season didn't carry over to this season. He doesn't need to be a good defender. He just needs to average enough not to be a complete liability on the floor.

There are guards in the league Trey Young's size and stature who are better defensively so let's not use his size as an excuse.

 

[Hollywood Co]

A true #1 option in this league isn't going to be dependent on other players to mask their deficiencies. It's the same argument we'd say about Dame who is not a #1 on a championship team because he's a defensive liability and you're literally having to bring in guys to mask those issues. That's why I cracked jokes about him wanting to bring in wing defenders when he could help solve some of those issues by becoming above average on defense to not be a liability on the floor.

Calling Trey a #1 is insulting to players like Bron, KD and Giannis who are actually true #1 options and have shown it consistently in elevating the team around them. People throw the world #1 option around too casually when it's levels to it.

So this is a 3 man league now? You name 3 unicorns, the genetic lottery winners to make your point?

So now AI, Steve Nash, Steph are not #1s to you because they don’t/didn’t play good defense?

Bron is putting better numbers this season than he has in a long time and it means nothing because the Lakers don’t play good team defense and they have HOF caliber player in AD on that squad so what are you really saying..

Giannis, didn’t have a championship team until Jrue Holiday came in and made up for all the issues the Bucks had. None of these cats can do it alone.

Bet Bron would love to have Trae right now because he brings so much to a team by being able to get his own shot and setup others against elite defense. That’s what makes him #1 option in the NBA.

 

[#1 pick]

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Bruh you don’t think that’s what Trae has been doing?

he absolutely killed teams last season and led us to the ECF. Was a menace against NY & Philly.

this is a silly argument…


I somewhat agree about his defense but he’s so damn small that I don’t think he’ll ever be a good defender. Dudes like Dame, Luka, Cam, Bogie, etc have no excuse with their size. All the coaches can do is scheme the defense to do something about Trae’s defense

He's not a Hawk fan but he's always here