My friend is 410lbs

[Spliff]

This y'all first rendezvous over his weight? Have you already been down this road: Giving him advice, pointing him to profound literature?

If you been through it, I suggest a trainer/life-coach ordeal. Ended up suggesting it to my right hand man over a year ago after we've tried to tackle it through other means. Best thing he's ever done for himself.

Some people get bombarded by the mental aspect of getting in shape, and benefit more just being told what to do, having their hand held, while establishing a positive connection with someone.

But like someone else said, they have to want it. You can lead a horse to water...

 

[QuintessentialBM]

No lie, I just got my weight under control due to not working for an extended period of time and I was that heavy... and probably more.

Anyways, if your friend doesn't have issues with gout(a form of arthritis which attacks joints and ligaments. Small crystals formed by uric acid not filtered by the liver remain in the blood stream and accumulate. It literally feels like stepping on razor sharp needles, and your feet, toes and ankles will be severely swollen red while emitting heat from the effected areas), then he's in decent shape besides the extreme weight.

Your friend needs to be on a very strict diet and daily workout regimen, ASAP!!!!! He needs to walk EVERY DAY for at least one hour, in addition to his job(if he has a job that requires physical activity, then that's even better). 410 lbs is a lot, but it's not bedridden status, the weight can be lost. As far as his diet, reduce everything except for raw/cooked vegetables, fresh fruit and water. Until his metabolism starts picking back up, he needs to limit the amount of daily carb consumption. No more breads and pasta for a while and heavily moderate rice and potato intake because although these foods are better than breads and pastas, your friend's body has a harder time digesting these foods at his current weight. It should be understood that fried foods, Kool-aid, sodas or and other flavored drink with fructose is a big no-no.

With this diet and regular exercise, he'll be in a safer zone in about 3 months. Average amount of weight loss per month (if he sticks with it)is 15 lbs per month. If he has a job that requires physical activity, then he can possible lose between 20 - 25 lbs safely. The diet is important. He has to eat enough and not eat junk as well if that makes sense.

 

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Your "friend"

 

[The ADD]

No lie, I just got my weight under control due to not working for an extended period of time and I was that heavy... and probably more.

Anyways, if your friend doesn't have issues with gout(a form of arthritis which attacks joints and ligaments. Small crystals formed by uric acid not filtered by the liver remain in the blood stream and accumulate. It literally feels like stepping on razor sharp needles, and your feet, toes and ankles will be severely swollen red while emitting heat from the effected areas), then he's in decent shape besides the extreme weight.

Your friend needs to be on a very strict diet and daily workout regimen, ASAP!!!!! He needs to walk EVERY DAY for at least one hour, in addition to his job(if he has a job that requires physical activity, then that's even better). 410 lbs is a lot, but it's not bedridden status, the weight can be lost. As far as his diet, reduce everything except for raw/cooked vegetables, fresh fruit and water. Until his metabolism starts picking back up, he needs to limit the amount of daily carb consumption. No more breads and pasta for a while and heavily moderate rice and potato intake because although these foods are better than breads and pastas, your friend's body has a harder time digesting these foods at his current weight. It should be understood that fried foods, Kool-aid, sodas or and other flavored drink with fructose is a big no-no.

With this diet and regular exercise, he'll be in a safer zone in about 3 months. Average amount of weight loss per month (if he sticks with it)is 15 lbs per month. If he has a job that requires physical activity, then he can possible lose between 20 - 25 lbs safely. The diet is important. He has to eat enough and not eat junk as well if that makes sense.

 

[The ADD]

Alabama Man Loses Over 250 Pounds at Zaxby's -

 

[Ghanaian Armor]

Once you get over 325lbs or so you need professional trainer. From a time and cost efficiency perspective.

The problem is most fat people are broke. And to get on the shows you need to be 500lbs or more in some cases.

Body Building Forums helped this one dude. Came in at 500lbs or so 6' tall I think and now he is down to 250lbs. It took about 2 years. They were helping him with his macros and all kinds of shyt.

The funny thing is visiting the doc don't help. Doctors only know two things :

How to remove organs, hemorrhaged body tissue and cancer etc. from the body surgically
How to prescribe RX drugs

He would need to see a nutritionist. And often they aren't covered under most insurance plans so you are talking $60-100/hr out of pocket + overhead if it's a practice so up to $500 per visit.

Obesity is expensive for the individual, the tax payer and non-obese people pay higher PCP premiums because of it, when half of these people don't even visit PCPs nor can they benefit from them.

 

[Kid McNamara]

Its too dangerous for him to do cardio

Obviously any strenuous workout program is not going to work

Bruh even light walking could be a problem.

At that weight I would be hesitant to advise him on anything before he sees a doctor.

Anything else will be way too strenous.

All of this is pure bullshyt. I weighed more when I was doing basketball/running to get in shape. Literally was in the gym doing Syracuse conditioning drills (sprints, backpedals, and defensive slides) and skill work for an hour. Lifting for another hour, and working on footwork for the third. Then working with kids for two hours.

Also did BJJ at the time.

Currently do Muay Thai 4 days and lifting 6.

I can't stand when cats do what y'all are doing. It holds people back and puts even more doubts in their head.

We hooped non-stop, and he was shedding pounds left and right. We'd play ball 4-5 times a week. But he was also self-motivated and changed up his diet.

but he has to want to help himself to see any real change.

This. He has to want to make that mindset shift. Having people along will work for a time, but that sustained long-term changes is all internal.

Once you get over 325lbs or so you need professional trainer. From a time and cost efficiency perspective.

Nah. The most important thing is a mindset shift. Don't need a trainer, they need to change their diets around and a trainer can't sit with you 24 hours and stop you from ordering a pizza with wings, cheesy bread, and a Fanta Strawberry.

 

[The ADD]

All of this is pure bullshyt. I weighed more when I was doing basketball/running to get in shape. Literally was in the gym doing Syracuse conditioning drills (sprints, backpedals, and defensive slides) and skill work for an hour. Lifting for another hour, and working on footwork for the third. Then working with kids for two hours.

Also did BJJ at the time.

Currently do Muay Thai 4 days and lifting 6.

I can't stand when cats do what y'all are doing. It holds people back and puts even more doubts in their head.



This. He has to want to make that mindset shift. Having people along will work for a time, but that sustained long-term changes is all internal.



Nah. The most important thing is a mindset shift. Don't need a trainer, they need to change their diets around and a trainer can't sit with you 24 hours and stop you from ordering a pizza with wings, cheesy bread, and a Fanta Strawberry.

Sounds like you are taking this personal. There is nothing wrong with someone being better informed about their health before making certain changes.

 

[Kid McNamara]

Sounds like you are taking this personal. There is nothing wrong with someone being better informed about their health before making certain changes.

I'm against any advice that causes people to hesitate and question themselves. Most of what I quoted was just that. Most 400 pound cats are still fairly mobile, and by the sound of it, seems like dude is healthy outside of being overweight.

Y'all in here acting like buddy bout to have a heart attack from walking a block or two.

 

[The ADD]

I'm against any advice that causes people to hesitate and question themselves. Most of what I quoted was just that. Most 400 pound cats are still fairly mobile, and by the sound of it, seems like dude is healthy outside of being overweight.

Y'all in here acting like buddy bout to have a heart attack from walking a block or two.

Most......

 

[Kid McNamara]

Most......

Y'all be doin it...

 

[pickles]

All of this is pure bullshyt. I weighed more when I was doing basketball/running to get in shape. Literally was in the gym doing Syracuse conditioning drills (sprints, backpedals, and defensive slides) and skill work for an hour. Lifting for another hour, and working on footwork for the third. Then working with kids for two hours.

Also did BJJ at the time.

Currently do Muay Thai 4 days and lifting 6.

I can't stand when cats do what y'all are doing. It holds people back and puts even more doubts in their head.



This. He has to want to make that mindset shift. Having people along will work for a time, but that sustained long-term changes is all internal.



Nah. The most important thing is a mindset shift. Don't need a trainer, they need to change their diets around and a trainer can't sit with you 24 hours and stop you from ordering a pizza with wings, cheesy bread, and a Fanta Strawberry.

Don't ever quote me again.

The fukk I care, if you want to fukk up your joints.

 

[BaldingSoHard]

My friend was 340 and is down to 250 now. He shed the weight gradually over the course of about a year.

We hooped non-stop, and he was shedding pounds left and right. We'd play ball 4-5 times a week. But he was also self-motivated and changed up his diet.

for lookin out for your homie, but he has to want to help himself to see any real change.

That's incredible. I love seeing / hearing about that shyt. I bet he feels like a god now, especially since he did it without surgery.

 

[Kid McNamara]

Don't ever quote me again.

The fukk I care, if you want to fukk up your joints.

Except...they not.

Now stop talking that dumb shyt.



Bu-Bu, just stick to couch squats and lifting water bottles.

 

[The ADD]

Y'all be doin it...

I think everyone has been in support of suggesting help. This is a third party person who we know little about and can't get direct feedback from.

You have gotten plenty of support here because we can interact with you. Suggesting some form of caution when we don't have a forum with this person is not a bad thing.