Music streaming services, charges are TOO CHEAP? Agree or disagree?

[Piff Perkins]

But if u do that. Bootlegging would destroy u

Will they though? Vinyl sales have been increasing for a decade, physical media demand is increasing across the board for music and film/television. Roc Marciano, Mach Hommy, and a host of other rappers aren't having any issues with exclusively dropping music on their platforms before it goes to streaming. Outside of rap, various other artists have succeeded with physical releases on their website days or weeks before streaming access including Radiohead.

I think the problem is that physical media sales require artists to have some level of connection to fans, and labels have largely failed at developing artists capable of that recently. Because it costs money to develop artists, tour them, radio, etc it's easier to just pump something onto streaming platforms and social media. So if the choice is letting artists struggle with streaming reimbursement rates or letting the label struggle trying to sell physical media....we all know which option the label will select. And if an artist decides to move beyond labels, do they really want that hassle? The comfort of a label (tour booking, hotels, media, etc) is valuable.

Also a larger convo on how a lot of companies are now run by venture capitalist flunkies whose main goal is to cut costs, increase short term growth at the cost of long term sustainability, and then put together an attractive debt package to be sold to the highest bidder. They'd rather burn money than make money.

 

[Long Live The Kane]

A couple people have hit on it, but yeah it’s not streaming that devalued music… internet piracy essentially reduced the value of music down to effectively ZERO…without streaming the average consumer would be far more selective with what they listen to, but also spend less on average…if you would’ve told me in say 2012 that’d I be spending $120 a year for music I would’ve laughed in your face…now I do it and don’t even think twice about it….they could charge more, but at a certain point it approaches diminishing returns as less people sign up…year to year the industry is still seeing revenue growth so I’d say current pricing is a decent sweet spot…I don’t how to post pics, but there’s a graph on this page that shows industry revenue by year adjusted for inflation

Infographic: From Tape to Tidal: 4 Decades of U.S. Music Sales

This chart shows U.S. music industry revenue since 1980 by format.

www.statista.com

It peaked at 24 billion adjusted dollars in ‘99, bottomed out at 8billion in ‘14, and is currently now at 15billion and rising…streaming saved the industry and continues to do so

 

[Redwing80]

Comparing how people consume music and movies is a stupid comparison. Movies cost a lot more to make

 

[Redwing80]

Side note wtf is this song in the background I can't remember

Edit: Schoolboy Q I knew it sounded similar

 

[BobbyBooshay]

Well I used to pay £10 for ONE album, so yeah its pretty cheap

 

[Apollo Creed]

Or it was too expensive to begin with.

Artists are funny people, they always act like they’re not the most capitalistic people out there cause they run around with Bernie shirts.

Go ahead and remove your shyt from streaming services and sell it for whatever price you want. No one is stopping you if you own your shyt.

Exactly that shyt is "for the love of art" until they ready to trick off on a new Lambo and shyt on their fans on social media lmfao

 

[REAL6]

Streaming music is basically pirating music.

 

[SnowflakesByTheOZ]

A couple people have hit on it, but yeah it’s not streaming that devalued music… internet piracy essentially reduced the value of music down to effectively ZERO…without streaming the average consumer would be far more selective with what they listen to, but also spend less on average…if you would’ve told me in say 2012 that’d I be spending $120 a year for music I would’ve laughed in your face…now I do it and don’t even think twice about it….they could charge more, but at a certain point it approaches diminishing returns as less people sign up…year to year the industry is still seeing revenue growth so I’d say current pricing is a decent sweet spot…I don’t how to post pics, but there’s a graph on this page that shows industry revenue by year adjusted for inflation

Infographic: From Tape to Tidal: 4 Decades of U.S. Music Sales

This chart shows U.S. music industry revenue since 1980 by format.

www.statista.com

It peaked at 24 billion adjusted dollars in ‘99, bottomed out at 8billion in ‘14, and is currently now at 15billion and rising…streaming saved the industry and continues to do so

Also the barrier to entry into making music is at an all time low due to technological advancements. Back in the day you had to go to a studio to record music, find a producer etc. Now in 2024, all you need is wifi, tik tok and boom you're a rapper. The field is saturated and whenever the field is saturated the product loses value.

 

[BaRRyG]

I'm about to start buying the physical copies of what streaming doesn't have full albums of, such as The Show sdtk

Fakkits don't have tm1999

It's 2024 shyt make no sense

 

[Playaz Eyez]

Also the barrier to entry into making music is at an all time low due to technological advancements. Back in the day you had to go to a studio to record music, find a producer etc. Now in 2024, all you need is wifi, tik tok and boom you're a rapper. The field is saturated and whenever the field is saturated the product loses value.

It’s disgusting how easy it is to make music. There’s no filter at all. It’s how parody rap has become real rap. The Andy Milonakis types are building actual fanbases instead of just being one and done.

 

[Easy-E]

It peaked at 24 billion adjusted dollars in ‘99, bottomed out at 8billion in ‘14, and is currently now at 15billion and rising…streaming saved the industry and continues to do so

But, the artists

 

[CrimsonTider]

It’s disgusting how easy it is to make music. There’s no filter at all. It’s how parody rap has become real rap. The Andy Milonakis types are building actual fanbases instead of just being one and done.

It’s always been easy to make music

 

[Yecht]

This is possibly the stupidest question I've seen on this site. If streaming could raise their prices and keep the subscriber base, they would

 

[Funcrusher]

Maaaaan if these clowns don't shut their smart dumb asses up

And all you clowns that are c/s-ing this retarded line of thinking.

Artists in general can still earn a  decent wage to live. What they are complaining about is that is much harder for them to become rich off of making music. Think about that for a second. Esp rappers. Touring rappers could easily, easily live and earn money in the same bracket as lawyers and doctors, so miss me with all this bs..

also...the customer isn't the one jerking the artists, it's the MUSIC LABELS AND STREAMING SERVICES with how they distribute the portions of revenue they make, about charging the consumer more to correct their own fukkery with how they fucc over artists, man fucc off, music streaming services is one of the only things in this capitalist culture that you're not getting absolutely fleeced out of your pockets and is reasonably priced and you dumbasses are ready and willing to change that because the music industry had a gravy train from the 80's-00's and they refuse to tighten their belts like everyone and every other industry has had to

All you people endorsing this stupid line of thinking, don't cry when you can't afford it because the monthly subscription price is too high and you have to subscribe to multiple streaming platforms to listen to all of the artists you like smh and i better not see you lot going down the illegal download route neither



And furthermore, someone needs to tell that clown one of the main reasons the quality in music has taken a general dip because the MUSIC LABELS themselves don't strictly sign off talent but mainly off looks and who they 'think' can sell. There's a reason why even in something like drill these past couple years the top two artists that plucked from the uk and 'made' into superstars were central cee and aitch and in ny it was ice spice and dd osama. Plus, the music industry shot it own kneecaps out removing the artist development department and devaluing the A&R.

/rant

I could really slap the sh't out of that whiteboy though for suggesting that, and that bozo nicca for going along with it.

Agree especially with bolded part. There's billions of people who just make enough or not even enough for a living. But I'm supposed to give a fukk about an artist being able to retire at 40.

 

[Long Live The Kane]

But, the artists

Artists were notoriously getting paid pennies per CD back in the glory days…not much has changed in that regard…the cliche has long been that acts don’t make their money from sales, they make it on the road (and there’s way more show money for rappers specifically than it used to be, among other extra outlets)…but you know what’s worse than crying about how little of the cut of revenue you’re getting?

Having no revenue at all to cry about not getting your fair share of, which is what happens when people just download their music for free instead of streaming it